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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 28 2010 10:13 GMT
#181
one burrowed infoling at inner 9 sees the sair mass moving out

a spore already readied at both the nat and 7

sairs back off from trying to kill OLs at the nat
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 28 2010 10:13 GMT
#182
one slowshuttle heads out - picks up a dt

no detection in zero's main!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
June 28 2010 10:13 GMT
#183
On June 28 2010 19:11 OneOther wrote:
i guess im just more lenient players when they lose. especially for guys like flash who have so pressure being the leader of his team and preparing for both msl/osl. in my opinion, he doesn't deserve to be called "slumping" yet. but if u want to consider anything less than winning 90% "slumping," feel free. however, he needs to lose over an extended period of time to be considered "slumping." give him some time until individual leagues / proleague playoffs.


If he goes <50% in individual leagues as well, then I believe we can call slump. Until then, only proleague performance isn't a total indicator of a slump. I guess i'm agreeing with you
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 28 2010 10:13 GMT
#184
Haha, burrowed zerglings blocking the nexus.

DT drop o.O
GANDHISAUCE
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
June 28 2010 10:13 GMT
#185
DT DROP IN MAIN KILLING EVERYTHING
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 28 2010 10:13 GMT
#186
one dt dropped in the main -
one kill, 2 kills
3 kills
4
5
6
+ 5 kills from earlier
before zero pulls his drones
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1218 Posts
June 28 2010 10:13 GMT
#187
dt drop in the main....zero loses quite a few drones before noticing
I love the sense of camaraderie when an entire line of cars teams up to prevent a dick from cutting in at the front. Stay strong, brothers!
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 10:15:29
June 28 2010 10:14 GMT
#188
On June 28 2010 19:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2010 19:05 OneOther wrote:
On June 28 2010 18:57 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 28 2010 18:55 OneOther wrote:
On June 28 2010 18:54 Plexa wrote:
On June 28 2010 18:52 Scarecrow wrote:
how is losing to free with carriers in an epic game on match point slumping?

pretty much this. Flash is still playing really well... just that everyone else has upped their game as well

lol yeah, i completely agree. until flash gets starts losing in individual leagues and fails in proleague playoffs, let's not throw the word "slumping" around like that. geeze...


I don't know what planet you're on but, regardless of the quality, Flash losing more games than he wins is a slump. It doesn't matter if everyone else in the world got better, compared to himself a month ago he's playing worse general games and losing more often than not.

It's not just THIS one game that's the reason, this just adds to it.

in my eyes he's playing just as well as he did. for example, flash nearly had that game but i have never seen free multitask and play this well in a long, long time. this was the case against a lot of his ace opponents, which was what the commentators were discussing the other day - how players suddenly to play so much better than they usually do against flash. his gameplay is just as strong and solid to me. his opponents have stepped it up. with preparation, however, i expect flash to dominate once again in individual leagues. he's in both msl and osl, leading his team to proleague playoffs, and is just fine. not winning 90% doesn't mean he's in a "slump" on all of a sudden. to me, "slump" means a drastic fall and collapse. dictionary.com agrees. and i can tell you that flash has not drastically collapsed. only difference might be that he has so many things on his plate right now that he doesn't have enough time to prepare for games. is he playing worse? no, not really.

im on planet earth btw. which one are u on?


The "He's just not winning 90% of his games!" argument is such crap. It's not that he's not winning as much, it's that he's losing a lot. He's losing games he shouldn't, making mistakes he shouldn't (He threw away 30 goliaths this game to dragoons and templars in the south, or those turrets, for instance -- The entire ace game vs Really, as well), and he's not leading KT to playoffs -- he was for the past four rounds, but for this entire month he has failed in the ace match, what, six times? Even when he was practicing specifically for ace against someone who wasn't? (vs Skyhigh, who played twice).

Flash is playing worse, and his winrate reflects that. It's nice that the quality of his opponent is improving but if he can't keep up then it's still a slump.


also oh shit I'm on Tallon IV

so going 50-50 in past nine games is a slump now? ROFL. and don't give me this "losing games he shouldn't have and making mistakes he shouldn't have." if you don't understand the game don't act like you do. he built those turrets to stall carriers at 12 while taking out his expos. why didn't it work? well, free simply played brilliantly this game. sometimes, you have to give his opponents some credit.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 28 2010 10:14 GMT
#189
11 KILL DT! THIS IS HUGE!
In the woods, there lurks..
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 28 2010 10:14 GMT
#190
WTF 11 kill DT.

aaaaand Zero isn't taking it out.
GANDHISAUCE
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
June 28 2010 10:14 GMT
#191
DT with the power of the chin did 11 kills
BW is back
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
June 28 2010 10:14 GMT
#192
rofl
3 larvae at his main
seriously, that could have been me on C lvl.
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 28 2010 10:14 GMT
#193
the dt sits in the main just outside detection range beside OLs and mydra...

infoling burrowed at 12 sees the pylon start there

finally the dt in the main killed

2 zealots dropped in the main

two drone kills
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33486 Posts
June 28 2010 10:14 GMT
#194
as the guy above said, a bunch of those kills are lings, it's not that bad for drone dmg =o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 28 2010 10:15 GMT
#195
2 zealot drop gets 2 drone kills. Storm drop incoming now.
GANDHISAUCE
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 28 2010 10:15 GMT
#196
one sair scourged

hydra mass force zeal/archon army to back off
but storms kill most of them as the hydra pick off the 2 templar
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
June 28 2010 10:15 GMT
#197
Nice HT snipes with a few hydras!
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 28 2010 10:15 GMT
#198
High templar get sniped!

Zero backing off though because he lost some hydras in the process.
GANDHISAUCE
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 28 2010 10:15 GMT
#199
god i hope stars take this to ace so that flash can break his ace match failure streak and shutup the haters
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
June 28 2010 10:16 GMT
#200
Nice storm from Stats kills a few hydras
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
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