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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
June 16 2010 09:52 GMT
#201
On June 16 2010 18:51 SkelA wrote:
LoL just saw the end of the game. Can someone explain what happened?

Great going 5 pool gets scouted and Best die to slow hydra drop ?


best scouted

tried to block with gateway, forge, cannon + heaps of probes

left a gap in the middle and lings ran straight through....
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
June 16 2010 09:52 GMT
#202
On June 16 2010 18:48 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 18:44 zmeqt wrote:
I still cannot believe that was a pro player 5 pool defence after scouting it.I`m positive some iccup d players have better ...


huh?
It's a different story when a good player is microing his lings. Did you miss mondragon during TSL1? Although those were speedlings, once a good player gets 3+ lings in the protoss main it's a real pain in the ass to defend.


i think he speaks of his wall
forge can gate and the a second forge to block the lings but still let 4 lings get up the ramp
come now, from someone playing 12 hours a day one can expect to know how to block a 5pool better
especially since its an insta win if zerg doesnt do any dmg
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 16 2010 09:52 GMT
#203
On June 16 2010 18:51 SkelA wrote:
LoL just saw the end of the game. Can someone explain what happened?

Great going 5 pool gets scouted and Best die to slow hydra drop ?


great goes 5pool, best goes early forge, scouts the cheesy play and horribly messes up his wall.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 09:54:38
June 16 2010 09:53 GMT
#204
On June 16 2010 18:51 SkelA wrote:
LoL just saw the end of the game. Can someone explain what happened?

Great going 5 pool gets scouted and Best die to slow hydra drop ?


Best tries a gimmick wall in with gateway/ double forge 1 canon, it has a hole in it and fails, Great slips 4 lings in and gets way ahead vs Best's mediocre probe micro. Great then goes for 2hat hydra slow drop.

On June 16 2010 18:52 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 18:48 samachking wrote:
On June 16 2010 18:44 zmeqt wrote:
I still cannot believe that was a pro player 5 pool defence after scouting it.I`m positive some iccup d players have better ...


huh?
It's a different story when a good player is microing his lings. Did you miss mondragon during TSL1? Although those were speedlings, once a good player gets 3+ lings in the protoss main it's a real pain in the ass to defend.


i think he speaks of his wall
forge can gate and the a second forge to block the lings but still let 4 lings get up the ramp
come now, from someone playing 12 hours a day one can expect to know how to block a 5pool better
especially since its an insta win if zerg doesnt do any dmg


It's a new map though, walls take time to be built, even in the pro scene. He seemed to have the right idea though, but that doesnt cut it T.T.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
June 16 2010 09:53 GMT
#205
great is coming along nicely

wish he played standard less i'd like a kwanro on khan
SplashbackFerret
Profile Joined October 2009
New Zealand846 Posts
June 16 2010 09:55 GMT
#206
On June 16 2010 18:53 faction123 wrote:
great is coming along nicely

wish he played standard less i'd like a kwanro on khan


every team should have a Kwanro
Splashy the Splashback Awareness Ferret
zmeqt
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria527 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 09:57:58
June 16 2010 09:56 GMT
#207
On June 16 2010 18:48 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 18:44 zmeqt wrote:
I still cannot believe that was a pro player 5 pool defence after scouting it.I`m positive some iccup d players have better ...


huh?
It's a different story when a good player is microing his lings. Did you miss mondragon during TSL1? Although those were speedlings, once a good player gets 3+ lings in the protoss main it's a real pain in the ass to defend.


Even the micro in Best`s base was noting spectacular,but the WTF moment was how best could let great sneak 4 from 6 zerglings in his main in the first place..He should have used atleast 3 probes to guard the choke and prevent the lings from going in the main and another 4 probes to defend as much as they can until the cannons warp.Actually pulling all of his probes would have been much better considering how much mining time he lost trying to defend against 4 zerglings in his base till the zealot popped.
the slogans
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
June 16 2010 09:57 GMT
#208
lol so he went 1 cannon and tried to make perfect wall vs 5 pool FAIL.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
June 16 2010 09:57 GMT
#209
On June 16 2010 18:55 SplashbackFerret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 18:53 faction123 wrote:
great is coming along nicely

wish he played standard less i'd like a kwanro on khan


every team should have a Kwanro


Gotta catch em all!
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 10:00:07
June 16 2010 09:58 GMT
#210
On June 16 2010 18:53 samachking wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 18:52 Djin)ftw( wrote:
On June 16 2010 18:48 samachking wrote:
On June 16 2010 18:44 zmeqt wrote:
I still cannot believe that was a pro player 5 pool defence after scouting it.I`m positive some iccup d players have better ...


huh?
It's a different story when a good player is microing his lings. Did you miss mondragon during TSL1? Although those were speedlings, once a good player gets 3+ lings in the protoss main it's a real pain in the ass to defend.


i think he speaks of his wall
forge can gate and the a second forge to block the lings but still let 4 lings get up the ramp
come now, from someone playing 12 hours a day one can expect to know how to block a 5pool better
especially since its an insta win if zerg doesnt do any dmg


It's a new map though, walls take time to be built, even in the pro scene. He seemed to have the right idea though, but that doesnt cut it T.T.


hm. im pretty sure he has played this map like over a hundred times til today, many of those games will have been pvz. i guess figuring out a solid wall and then how to prevent 4/5/6pool are the first things they study. at least that's what i would do t.t
€: oh wow
best built 2 main can when going 2 star gates? lol
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
June 16 2010 09:58 GMT
#211
Great's APM was 473/554 in the second game.
High five :---)
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
June 16 2010 09:58 GMT
#212
On June 16 2010 18:55 SplashbackFerret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 18:53 faction123 wrote:
great is coming along nicely

wish he played standard less i'd like a kwanro on khan


every team should have a Kwanro

KT once had Luxury. Sniff
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
June 16 2010 10:01 GMT
#213
man if Canata advances when Best didn't that will make me so sad
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
June 16 2010 10:02 GMT
#214
Even with the delayed mining, Best was still ahead at that point as he had only lost 3 probes and had the gateway built. Best lost the game when he did not respond to the overlords fast enough. There was enough time before the overlords dropped to warp in a few more cannons and delay with the zealots he had.
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
June 16 2010 10:02 GMT
#215
One Protoss out...

Free! Please make it
dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
June 16 2010 10:02 GMT
#216
Canata with an evil smile.
KT Roflster - the lulziest team of Proleague.
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
June 16 2010 10:03 GMT
#217
On June 16 2010 19:02 NguN wrote:
One Protoss out...

Free! Please make it


Still got reach.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
June 16 2010 10:03 GMT
#218
Seems like Canata lost all his fans after that hour-long game against Best
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
June 16 2010 10:03 GMT
#219
i really feel for protoss...regardless how shit best played. they are getting smashed this season..and last
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
June 16 2010 10:03 GMT
#220
On June 16 2010 19:02 setzer wrote:
Even with the delayed mining, Best was still ahead at that point as he had only lost 3 probes and had the gateway built. Best lost the game when he did not respond to the overlords fast enough. There was enough time before the overlords dropped to warp in a few more cannons and delay with the zealots he had.


Plus he should have focused on getting the last overlord down instead of failing to get the first.
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