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Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
June 01 2010 14:25 GMT
#1141
ktflash ftw jaedong oz ftl
Nony is Bonjwa
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 01 2010 14:26 GMT
#1142
Awww, I am very disappointed that JD dogded the rematch.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 14:28:31
June 01 2010 14:26 GMT
#1143
Not sure why everyone is so shocked by Hiya beating Flash. Hiya has been one of the most consistent and solid players for a while now, and Flash does have a tendency to lose random TvTs every now and then. At the moment, I would rate him higher than some overrated Terrans like Really and Sea.

I'm curious to know why they didn't send Jaedong, it seems pretty clear that they planned this well in advance. I hope it was Jaedong's decision to not play, as opposed to the coach not having faith in him. Maybe he doesn't want to face Flash until he feels he's fully figured him out and is ready to rape him 3-0! Ok maybe not, but I can hope so.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
June 01 2010 14:27 GMT
#1144
On June 01 2010 23:26 Holgerius wrote:
Awww, I am very disappointed that JD dogded the rematch.


Yeah, that's what you're disappointed about. That, and nothing else.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
June 01 2010 14:27 GMT
#1145
WOW i didnt expect this at all...

What a horrible start for my LB and FPL . 0/4 LB and -4 on FPL haha !
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
June 01 2010 14:28 GMT
#1146
On June 01 2010 23:25 Nal_rAwr wrote:
ktflash ftw jaedong oz ftl


Lol, someone didn't watch the games.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 01 2010 14:31 GMT
#1147
On June 01 2010 23:25 Nal_rAwr wrote:
ktflash ftw jaedong oz ftl


KTFlash yes, but Oz really showed us this whole year that they arent Jaedong Oz anymore.

They are Hiyadong Oz now.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
RushWifDietCoke
Profile Joined May 2008
United States488 Posts
June 01 2010 14:32 GMT
#1148
Flash is becoming the target of every sniper, smart move on OZ. I'm sure KT expected Jaedong to go to the ace match. Little did they know Hiya would come out of nowhere... like a ninja.
Nothing to it but to do it.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 01 2010 14:33 GMT
#1149
Only 58 pages? Fanboys must not have woken up yet...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 01 2010 14:38 GMT
#1150
On June 01 2010 23:27 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 23:26 Holgerius wrote:
Awww, I am very disappointed that JD dogded the rematch.


Yeah, that's what you're disappointed about. That, and nothing else.

I am of course disappointed by the fact that Flash lost as well, but that is quite easy to overlook considering what he has accomplished recently.

But it is very disappointing that Oz didn't send JD for ace, especially since the MSL games didn't live up to the expectations in terms of quality (only one player delivered good games).
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
June 01 2010 14:46 GMT
#1151
Man, Flash has been losing some ace games in the proleague for a while. He lost to Fantasy, Snow and now Hiya. Every loss Flash gets hurts me a little.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
June 01 2010 14:49 GMT
#1152
On June 01 2010 23:38 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 23:27 tomatriedes wrote:
On June 01 2010 23:26 Holgerius wrote:
Awww, I am very disappointed that JD dogded the rematch.


Yeah, that's what you're disappointed about. That, and nothing else.

I am of course disappointed by the fact that Flash lost as well, but that is quite easy to overlook considering what he has accomplished recently.

But it is very disappointing that Oz didn't send JD for ace, especially since the MSL games didn't live up to the expectations in terms of quality (only one player delivered good games).


Polaris is not a zerg-favored map in general so it's quite logical to send out a non-zerg, look at the stats:

Polaris Rhapsody
폴라리스 랩소디

Size: 96x128
Spots: 5, 11
Tileset: Twilight
Games played: 77

Race Stats (non-mirrors):
TvZ: 3-6 (33.3%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 5-5 (50%) [ Games ]
PvT: 16-10 (61.5%) [ Games ]

Mirrors: 15 TvT | 4 ZvZ | 13 PvP

Anyway, whatever makes you feel better about the loss...
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 01 2010 15:00 GMT
#1153
On June 01 2010 23:38 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 23:27 tomatriedes wrote:
On June 01 2010 23:26 Holgerius wrote:
Awww, I am very disappointed that JD dogded the rematch.


Yeah, that's what you're disappointed about. That, and nothing else.

I am of course disappointed by the fact that Flash lost as well, but that is quite easy to overlook considering what he has accomplished recently.

But it is very disappointing that Oz didn't send JD for ace, especially since the MSL games didn't live up to the expectations in terms of quality (only one player delivered good games).


If you are rank #8 Oz and JD cant think for the fans or entertainment. They need wins.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
June 01 2010 15:07 GMT
#1154
On June 01 2010 23:49 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 23:38 Holgerius wrote:
On June 01 2010 23:27 tomatriedes wrote:
On June 01 2010 23:26 Holgerius wrote:
Awww, I am very disappointed that JD dogded the rematch.


Yeah, that's what you're disappointed about. That, and nothing else.

I am of course disappointed by the fact that Flash lost as well, but that is quite easy to overlook considering what he has accomplished recently.

But it is very disappointing that Oz didn't send JD for ace, especially since the MSL games didn't live up to the expectations in terms of quality (only one player delivered good games).


Polaris is not a zerg-favored map in general so it's quite logical to send out a non-zerg, look at the stats:

Polaris Rhapsody
폴라리스 랩소디

Size: 96x128
Spots: 5, 11
Tileset: Twilight
Games played: 77

Race Stats (non-mirrors):
TvZ: 3-6 (33.3%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 5-5 (50%) [ Games ]
PvT: 16-10 (61.5%) [ Games ]

Mirrors: 15 TvT | 4 ZvZ | 13 PvP

Anyway, whatever makes you feel better about the loss...

Jaedong on a non-zerg favored map should still be a much safer bet than Hiya. Having said that, the stats given above looks pretty good for zergs actually.

It could be that Jaedong has not overcome his loss in the MSL final yet, and facing Flash again after couple of days might not be the best idea.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
June 01 2010 15:25 GMT
#1155
FLASH ENTER A SLUMP!!!
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 01 2010 15:26 GMT
#1156
On June 02 2010 00:00 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 23:38 Holgerius wrote:
On June 01 2010 23:27 tomatriedes wrote:
On June 01 2010 23:26 Holgerius wrote:
Awww, I am very disappointed that JD dogded the rematch.


Yeah, that's what you're disappointed about. That, and nothing else.

I am of course disappointed by the fact that Flash lost as well, but that is quite easy to overlook considering what he has accomplished recently.

But it is very disappointing that Oz didn't send JD for ace, especially since the MSL games didn't live up to the expectations in terms of quality (only one player delivered good games).


If you are rank #8 Oz and JD cant think for the fans or entertainment. They need wins.

And that's why they sent Hiya instead of JD?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Mojawi)SoJu
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)259 Posts
June 01 2010 15:28 GMT
#1157
wow, did'nt thought that HiyA will be send... apprently good choice. gg Hwaseung
#1 김택용 팬 | #1 화승 오즈 프로게임단 팬 | 스타2 하자! | 나를 찢어갈겨 이 씨발놈아 왜 나를 미치게 만들어 니가 뭘 아는데?
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 01 2010 15:31 GMT
#1158
On June 02 2010 00:26 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2010 00:00 SuperArc wrote:
On June 01 2010 23:38 Holgerius wrote:
On June 01 2010 23:27 tomatriedes wrote:
On June 01 2010 23:26 Holgerius wrote:
Awww, I am very disappointed that JD dogded the rematch.


Yeah, that's what you're disappointed about. That, and nothing else.

I am of course disappointed by the fact that Flash lost as well, but that is quite easy to overlook considering what he has accomplished recently.

But it is very disappointing that Oz didn't send JD for ace, especially since the MSL games didn't live up to the expectations in terms of quality (only one player delivered good games).


If you are rank #8 Oz and JD cant think for the fans or entertainment. They need wins.

And that's why they sent Hiya instead of JD?


Against Flash its safer sending a top5 terran than JD with his shaky ZvT on a bad map for zergs. Especially when Flash expects JD to come out.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
shalafi
Profile Joined July 2008
394 Posts
June 01 2010 15:34 GMT
#1159
On June 02 2010 00:07 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 23:49 tomatriedes wrote:
On June 01 2010 23:38 Holgerius wrote:
On June 01 2010 23:27 tomatriedes wrote:
On June 01 2010 23:26 Holgerius wrote:
Awww, I am very disappointed that JD dogded the rematch.


Yeah, that's what you're disappointed about. That, and nothing else.

I am of course disappointed by the fact that Flash lost as well, but that is quite easy to overlook considering what he has accomplished recently.

But it is very disappointing that Oz didn't send JD for ace, especially since the MSL games didn't live up to the expectations in terms of quality (only one player delivered good games).


Polaris is not a zerg-favored map in general so it's quite logical to send out a non-zerg, look at the stats:

Polaris Rhapsody
폴라리스 랩소디

Size: 96x128
Spots: 5, 11
Tileset: Twilight
Games played: 77

Race Stats (non-mirrors):
TvZ: 3-6 (33.3%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 5-5 (50%) [ Games ]
PvT: 16-10 (61.5%) [ Games ]

Mirrors: 15 TvT | 4 ZvZ | 13 PvP

Anyway, whatever makes you feel better about the loss...

Jaedong on a non-zerg favored map should still be a much safer bet than Hiya. Having said that, the stats given above looks pretty good for zergs actually.

It could be that Jaedong has not overcome his loss in the MSL final yet, and facing Flash again after couple of days might not be the best idea.


You're not looking at the stats that matter.

Of the 154 players (77 games) sent for that map, 65 were T, 62 were P and 27 were Z.

Yeah, the few Z that played terrans got good win-ratios, but considering they sent Z in a map no-one expects Z, they're exceptional cases.

Sending Jaedong, the player Flash expected, in a map that's unfavourable for Z is a pretty bad idea. Specially when you have a sniper as prepared as Hiya.
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
June 01 2010 15:42 GMT
#1160
Serial econ-cheeser lost?

Good.
WWJDD??
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