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DJONES
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States218 Posts
May 29 2010 09:02 GMT
#1301
On May 29 2010 18:00 link18 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:57 PoP wrote:
Imo Jaedong should have just gone MASS (aka 4 base) lurker lings defilers for a while instead of going straight for ultras.

I don't like those midgame-skipping builds, they almost never seem to work.


This



You mean kinda like the one flash just used to win game 1?
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R A V
Profile Joined November 2009
United States217 Posts
May 29 2010 09:03 GMT
#1302
JD LWWW inc
Jaedong? More like JDAWG
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
May 29 2010 09:03 GMT
#1303
On May 29 2010 18:00 link18 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:57 PoP wrote:
Imo Jaedong should have just gone MASS (aka 4 base) lurker lings defilers for a while instead of going straight for ultras.

I don't like those midgame-skipping builds, they almost never seem to work.


This

Problem is, Flash completely skipped the midgame too. So 50% of the midgame-skipping builds worked in that last game.

I enjoyed that last game quite a bit, great mind games, excellent action.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States692 Posts
May 29 2010 09:03 GMT
#1304
JD doesn't have his death stare on tonight :-(
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 09:04:03
May 29 2010 09:03 GMT
#1305
On May 29 2010 18:00 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:58 Alethios wrote:
On May 29 2010 17:57 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On May 29 2010 17:55 Iplaythings wrote:
Meh, Remember how Flash expanded and managed his macro like a man, just because flash really sloppily let those scourges move over to his sv's doesnt mean bad play, both their play was sick. Jaedong defiler timing + plague was what kept him in the game, because zlings alone cant handle firebats without plague.
But both went for sick calculated builds!


Agreed. I can't believe people are saying that EITHER player actuallyed played bad that game. Wtf.

They just don't really understand what's going on yet.


I would call that vessel control pretty poor from flash, that tank loss could've cost him the game too.

Jaedong just didnt build enough shit, 3hat ling with a couple of defilers wont defeat terran in the late game, his defence vs the first drop was extremely poor too, he should've made units you know?

I just feel that they played worse in this set than their average PL game. The mind games were brilliant though.

Thats why he made 2 friggin defiler mounds, firebats cnat handle lings when they are plagued -_- and dont get me started at on how those ultras wouldve defended it.
Not saying they played flawless, but unless I am wrong 99.99% of all JD's and Flash micro mistakes comes from when they are macroing or managing elsewhere.
Losing vessel =/= screwing with macro rhythm
In the woods, there lurks..
snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 09:04:56
May 29 2010 09:03 GMT
#1306
On May 29 2010 18:00 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:58 Alethios wrote:
On May 29 2010 17:57 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On May 29 2010 17:55 Iplaythings wrote:
Meh, Remember how Flash expanded and managed his macro like a man, just because flash really sloppily let those scourges move over to his sv's doesnt mean bad play, both their play was sick. Jaedong defiler timing + plague was what kept him in the game, because zlings alone cant handle firebats without plague.
But both went for sick calculated builds!


Agreed. I can't believe people are saying that EITHER player actuallyed played bad that game. Wtf.

They just don't really understand what's going on yet.


I would call that vessel control pretty poor from flash, that tank loss could've cost him the game too.

Jaedong just didnt build enough shit, 3hat ling with a couple of defilers wont defeat terran in the late game, his defence vs the first drop was extremely poor too, he should've made units you know?

I just feel that they played worse in this set than their average PL game. The mind games were brilliant though.


I assume Flash was focusing on macroing as much shit as possible to throw at JD before enough defilers/ultras popped out. Plus, he regularly loses vessels in his games -- as long as they get their irradiates off they pay for themselves.
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 29 2010 09:03 GMT
#1307
I thought that game was very exciting. Great timing by Flash, and the battle at JD's nat was tense as fuck. I'm happy JD got punished for his greedy build.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 09:04:27
May 29 2010 09:03 GMT
#1308
REAL MEN DON'T MICRO
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
May 29 2010 09:04 GMT
#1309
On May 29 2010 18:00 link18 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:57 PoP wrote:
Imo Jaedong should have just gone MASS (aka 4 base) lurker lings defilers for a while instead of going straight for ultras.

I don't like those midgame-skipping builds, they almost never seem to work.


This

IIRC Luxury defeated flash twice with such build (ona game was on Troy), then KT hired him and then...
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 09:04:36
May 29 2010 09:04 GMT
#1310
Wonder if Flash curls up like a tormented war vet with flashbacks of power outages when he's about to go onto this map.
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fIamewheel
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
177 Posts
May 29 2010 09:04 GMT
#1311
Alright!
We either have a repeat of Batoo, or an LWWW.
EITHER WAY
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66169 Posts
May 29 2010 09:04 GMT
#1312
Jaedong: "Give me some of that elixir Flash's drinking."
POGGERS
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 29 2010 09:04 GMT
#1313
On May 29 2010 18:03 Holgerius wrote:
I thought that game was very exciting. Great timing by Flash, and the battle at JD's nat was tense as fuck. I'm happy JD got punished for his greedy build.


You know Flash started with the greedy build? Jaedong played catch-up.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
May 29 2010 09:04 GMT
#1314
On May 29 2010 18:03 R A V wrote:
JD LWWW inc

lets gooooo
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
May 29 2010 09:04 GMT
#1315
Dood! WE GET TO SEE HOW IT GOES DOWN WITH NO POWER OUTAGE!!!1!

Odd Eye baby.

I'm actually expecting a bad game 2 though
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 29 2010 09:04 GMT
#1316
JD will lose this 3-0 T__T
I dont think he can win on Odd Eye
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
May 29 2010 09:04 GMT
#1317
On May 29 2010 18:04 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Wonder if Flash curls up like a tormented war vet and has flashbacks of power outages when he's about to go onto this map.


PTSD on Odd Eye
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
May 29 2010 09:04 GMT
#1318
Lol Day[9] is actually commentating the MSL Finals!?
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
May 29 2010 09:04 GMT
#1319
cursed map!!!
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
May 29 2010 09:04 GMT
#1320
Game 2 starting!1
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