On May 29 2010 17:56 Biff The Understudy wrote: I think Jaedong didn't expect this build from Flash. When he saw the starport, he was more probably thinking of some tech shit or valk mm combo.
The problem is that he should've scouted, since he sent scourge when Flash was adding Barracks
Yep, he missed the rax and didn't expect the timing push.
Flash quick downshift to a ton of Rax obviously threw him off. No lurkers just doesn't make sense against all that infantry, pretty sure he wasn't expecting that heavy infantry mid-game there. He was getting ready for Ling/Ultra with Swarm for late game VS mech I think.
Pretty terrible game by their standards dont you think?
That was pretty weak play
really
I thought the sunken break part was super tense and the timing the defiler came out.
That was tense for sure, but JD built 0 units after that and just got rolled. He shouldve gottnen defensive guards, that woulddve saved him in this game. He had th gas to support it too.
Erm, Guardians wouldn't have saved him... what he went for was the best thing he could have done in that situation.
What was he building?
He had 4 gas with tons of drones for a while, with being greedy with upgrades everywhere? Does 1 group of lings and a couple of defilers win you the game? He needed something to transition to the ultras, and sunks dont cut the job.
By the time Flash rolled out and revealed his build, hail-mary Guards would have been late and too few in number to make a difference. I actually thought the double defiler mound with plague and swarm was pretty inspired, and against a lesser Terran it probably would have worked/stalled long enough for the ultras to build. The dropship taking out 1 base + the evo chambers didn't really help JD either.
Either way, I thought it was a spectacular game with very inspired mind-games from both.
On May 29 2010 17:57 PoP wrote: Imo Jaedong should have just gone MASS (aka 4 base) lurker lings defilers for a while instead of going straight for ultras.
I don't like those midgame-skipping builds, they almost never seem to work.
On May 29 2010 17:55 Iplaythings wrote: Meh, Remember how Flash expanded and managed his macro like a man, just because flash really sloppily let those scourges move over to his sv's doesnt mean bad play, both their play was sick. Jaedong defiler timing + plague was what kept him in the game, because zlings alone cant handle firebats without plague. But both went for sick calculated builds!
Agreed. I can't believe people are saying that EITHER player actuallyed played bad that game. Wtf.
They just don't really understand what's going on yet.
I would call that vessel control pretty poor from flash, that tank loss could've cost him the game too.
Jaedong just didnt build enough shit, 3hat ling with a couple of defilers wont defeat terran in the late game, his defence vs the first drop was extremely poor too, he should've made units you know?
I just feel that they played worse in this set than their average PL game. The mind games were brilliant though.
On May 29 2010 17:55 Iplaythings wrote: Meh, Remember how Flash expanded and managed his macro like a man, just because flash really sloppily let those scourges move over to his sv's doesnt mean bad play, both their play was sick. Jaedong defiler timing + plague was what kept him in the game, because zlings alone cant handle firebats without plague. But both went for sick calculated builds!
Agreed. I can't believe people are saying that EITHER player actuallyed played bad that game. Wtf.
They just don't really understand what's going on yet.
I would call that vessel control pretty poor from flash, that tank loss could've cost him the game too.
Jaedong just didnt build enough shit, 3hat ling with a couple of defilers wont defeat terran in the late game, his defence vs the first drop was extremely poor too, he should've made units you know?
I just feel that they played worse in this set than their average PL game. The mind games were brilliant though.
Ye, Flash control seemed poor at several points in the game. If he saved that first tank he could have won the game right there. Also sloppy with the vessels all around. Loved the overall strategy though
Loved that game, tense moments in it and JD took a gamble being greedy, but Flash is awesome and came in with that great timing and kept the pressure on. Nice first game, LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE!