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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7890 Posts
May 29 2010 09:00 GMT
#1281
On May 29 2010 17:59 Shuray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I think Jaedong didn't expect this build from Flash. When he saw the starport, he was more probably thinking of some tech shit or valk mm combo.


The problem is that he should've scouted, since he sent scourge when Flash was adding Barracks

Yep, he missed the rax and didn't expect the timing push.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
TheMute
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States458 Posts
May 29 2010 09:00 GMT
#1282
Why would you skip lurkers my Overmind?

Hopefully this is just his lose first game in BoX trend...
Friends are simply people you can do/say vulgar things to.
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
May 29 2010 09:00 GMT
#1283
jaedong loose too much has doing a defiler mount, or TWO for that matter, and a ultralisk cavern.
its just a complete waste of gas
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
May 29 2010 09:00 GMT
#1284
Flash quick downshift to a ton of Rax obviously threw him off.
No lurkers just doesn't make sense against all that infantry, pretty sure he wasn't expecting that heavy infantry mid-game there.
He was getting ready for Ling/Ultra with Swarm for late game VS mech I think.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
May 29 2010 09:00 GMT
#1285
harder better faster stronger xD
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
May 29 2010 09:00 GMT
#1286
On May 29 2010 17:56 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:55 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On May 29 2010 17:52 samachking wrote:
On May 29 2010 17:50 Amnesia wrote:
On May 29 2010 17:50 samachking wrote:
GG

Pretty terrible game by their standards dont you think?

That was pretty weak play

really

I thought the sunken break part was super tense and the timing the defiler came out.


That was tense for sure, but JD built 0 units after that and just got rolled. He shouldve gottnen defensive guards, that woulddve saved him in this game. He had th gas to support it too.


Erm, Guardians wouldn't have saved him... what he went for was the best thing he could have done in that situation.


What was he building?

He had 4 gas with tons of drones for a while, with being greedy with upgrades everywhere? Does 1 group of lings and a couple of defilers win you the game? He needed something to transition to the ultras, and sunks dont cut the job.


By the time Flash rolled out and revealed his build, hail-mary Guards would have been late and too few in number to make a difference. I actually thought the double defiler mound with plague and swarm was pretty inspired, and against a lesser Terran it probably would have worked/stalled long enough for the ultras to build. The dropship taking out 1 base + the evo chambers didn't really help JD either.

Either way, I thought it was a spectacular game with very inspired mind-games from both.
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peanutter
Profile Joined February 2009
Australia165 Posts
May 29 2010 09:00 GMT
#1287
I don't get how any would say Jaedong was anticipating mech =/ no1 skips a den if there's mech o.O + he saw the starport, marines and raxes.
link18
Profile Joined January 2010
Croatia65 Posts
May 29 2010 09:00 GMT
#1288
On May 29 2010 17:57 PoP wrote:
Imo Jaedong should have just gone MASS (aka 4 base) lurker lings defilers for a while instead of going straight for ultras.

I don't like those midgame-skipping builds, they almost never seem to work.


This
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 29 2010 09:00 GMT
#1289
On May 29 2010 17:58 Alethios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:57 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On May 29 2010 17:55 Iplaythings wrote:
Meh, Remember how Flash expanded and managed his macro like a man, just because flash really sloppily let those scourges move over to his sv's doesnt mean bad play, both their play was sick. Jaedong defiler timing + plague was what kept him in the game, because zlings alone cant handle firebats without plague.
But both went for sick calculated builds!


Agreed. I can't believe people are saying that EITHER player actuallyed played bad that game. Wtf.

They just don't really understand what's going on yet.


I would call that vessel control pretty poor from flash, that tank loss could've cost him the game too.

Jaedong just didnt build enough shit, 3hat ling with a couple of defilers wont defeat terran in the late game, his defence vs the first drop was extremely poor too, he should've made units you know?

I just feel that they played worse in this set than their average PL game. The mind games were brilliant though.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 29 2010 09:01 GMT
#1290
On May 29 2010 17:58 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:57 alffla wrote:
damn i missed the first game.

You failed your life then. Sorry


T___T

lol sounds like a pretty strange game from reading the coments

wow wtf DOULE DEFILER MOUND hahah
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66164 Posts
May 29 2010 09:01 GMT
#1291
On May 29 2010 17:58 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:57 alffla wrote:
damn i missed the first game.

You failed your life then. Sorry

LOL
POGGERS
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
May 29 2010 09:02 GMT
#1292
On May 29 2010 18:00 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:58 Alethios wrote:
On May 29 2010 17:57 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On May 29 2010 17:55 Iplaythings wrote:
Meh, Remember how Flash expanded and managed his macro like a man, just because flash really sloppily let those scourges move over to his sv's doesnt mean bad play, both their play was sick. Jaedong defiler timing + plague was what kept him in the game, because zlings alone cant handle firebats without plague.
But both went for sick calculated builds!


Agreed. I can't believe people are saying that EITHER player actuallyed played bad that game. Wtf.

They just don't really understand what's going on yet.


I would call that vessel control pretty poor from flash, that tank loss could've cost him the game too.

Jaedong just didnt build enough shit, 3hat ling with a couple of defilers wont defeat terran in the late game, his defence vs the first drop was extremely poor too, he should've made units you know?

I just feel that they played worse in this set than their average PL game. The mind games were brilliant though.


Ye, Flash control seemed poor at several points in the game. If he saved that first tank he could have won the game right there. Also sloppy with the vessels all around. Loved the overall strategy though
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66164 Posts
May 29 2010 09:02 GMT
#1293
YES SON

DRINK THAT POCARI SWEAT MORE.
POGGERS
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
May 29 2010 09:02 GMT
#1294
Yeah game 2 finally :D
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
May 29 2010 09:02 GMT
#1295
Loved that game, tense moments in it and JD took a gamble being greedy, but Flash is awesome and came in with that great timing and kept the pressure on. Nice first game, LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE!
@QxGDarkCell ._.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 29 2010 09:02 GMT
#1296
Come on, Jaedong!

Win the 2nd map to INCREASE THE HYPE!!!
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
May 29 2010 09:02 GMT
#1297
God I have such a weak heart. I can barely watch game 2 of this thing without having a heart attack.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Gaxton
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2328 Posts
May 29 2010 09:02 GMT
#1298
FLASH JUICEUUUU~~
fIamewheel
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
177 Posts
May 29 2010 09:02 GMT
#1299
I love you alffla!
unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
May 29 2010 09:02 GMT
#1300
power outage map odd eye 2,,, here we goooooooooooooooo!!! GOGOGO
김정우.... 이겼다!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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