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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 29 2010 08:55 GMT
#1241
Wutwut map imba. Triathlon is retarded thx ~
GANDHISAUCE
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
May 29 2010 08:55 GMT
#1242
On May 29 2010 17:52 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:50 Amnesia wrote:
On May 29 2010 17:50 samachking wrote:
GG

Pretty terrible game by their standards dont you think?

That was pretty weak play

really

I thought the sunken break part was super tense and the timing the defiler came out.


That was tense for sure, but JD built 0 units after that and just got rolled. He shouldve gottnen defensive guards, that woulddve saved him in this game. He had th gas to support it too.


Erm, Guardians wouldn't have saved him... what he went for was the best thing he could have done in that situation.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 29 2010 08:55 GMT
#1243
Meh, Remember how Flash expanded and managed his macro like a man, just because flash really sloppily let those scourges move over to his sv's doesnt mean bad play, both their play was sick. Jaedong defiler timing + plague was what kept him in the game, because zlings alone cant handle firebats without plague.
But both went for sick calculated builds!
In the woods, there lurks..
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
May 29 2010 08:55 GMT
#1244
insane song ....
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7958 Posts
May 29 2010 08:55 GMT
#1245
This map proves one more time that it produces amazing games.

<3 Triathlon
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
SuperaddE
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden132 Posts
May 29 2010 08:55 GMT
#1246
gg awesome game, gogo Flash win this 3-0.
RIP KT_Violet
ohN
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1075 Posts
May 29 2010 08:55 GMT
#1247
Flash either had an insane timing push or JD anticipated mech.
Either way, wp by flash.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
May 29 2010 08:55 GMT
#1248
honestly it looks like Jaedong was trying to bluff Flash, and Flash just read through the bluff. Looks like Jaedong thought if he hit defilers with plague and Swarm, that'd be enough to push back terran for a bit, and didnt' expect Flash to push back in.

I thought it was a good game, Jaedong took a risky, bluff build and Flash called it.
snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 09:01:45
May 29 2010 08:56 GMT
#1249
On May 29 2010 17:52 tree.hugger wrote:
See how this works?

Flash goes for an econ cheese against EffOrt and loses, everyone calls it stupid. Flash goes for an econ cheese against Jaedong, and it's brilliant. This is how Flash always plays.


Pretty much. Plus JD trying to power drones/grab more expos while teching left him with no units, so in a way Flash made JD play even greedier than him while he switched to mnm.
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 08:57:39
May 29 2010 08:56 GMT
#1250
Jaedong tech rushed - double defiler mound to ultras, but Flash scanned his fast hive and rushed him with a crapton of MM. Jaedong hung on for a while with plague and ultras but he never had enough units.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 29 2010 08:56 GMT
#1251
On May 29 2010 17:55 ohN wrote:
Flash either had an insane timing push or JD anticipated mech.
Either way, wp by flash.

a combination, Jaedongs build wouldve raped mech and set it home to D- iccup.
In the woods, there lurks..
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
May 29 2010 08:56 GMT
#1252
On May 29 2010 17:53 TwoToneTerran wrote:
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On May 29 2010 17:52 Skillz_Man wrote:
I thought JD had a BO advantage... He was 4 base vs 2 base and yet... =/


He was playing catchup. The only way to open up even against 14cc is to 3 hatch before pool.


Doesn't 14cc still come out on top? Jd had like no drones there. That was pretty close.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7958 Posts
May 29 2010 08:56 GMT
#1253
I think Jaedong didn't expect this build from Flash. When he saw the starport, he was more probably thinking of some tech shit or valk mm combo.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
May 29 2010 08:56 GMT
#1254
omzg 12 days of christmas
...from the land of imba
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 29 2010 08:56 GMT
#1255
On May 29 2010 17:55 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:52 samachking wrote:
On May 29 2010 17:50 Amnesia wrote:
On May 29 2010 17:50 samachking wrote:
GG

Pretty terrible game by their standards dont you think?

That was pretty weak play

really

I thought the sunken break part was super tense and the timing the defiler came out.


That was tense for sure, but JD built 0 units after that and just got rolled. He shouldve gottnen defensive guards, that woulddve saved him in this game. He had th gas to support it too.


Erm, Guardians wouldn't have saved him... what he went for was the best thing he could have done in that situation.


What was he building?

He had 4 gas with tons of drones for a while, with being greedy with upgrades everywhere? Does 1 group of lings and a couple of defilers win you the game? He needed something to transition to the ultras, and sunks dont cut the job.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
May 29 2010 08:56 GMT
#1256
wow that was at such I high level it looked retarded at certain points. 10 minutes or so in and Flash moves out with like 12 marines as his whole army. Mutalisks 2 minutes after spire finishes. When Flash attacks for the first time JD has around 12 lings. Beyond anything I've ever seen
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4733 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 08:57:47
May 29 2010 08:56 GMT
#1257
JD needed to mass up after the first swarms, he thought he could hold an additional minute with basically no units, but Flash just went for it anyway. A round of 20 lings and a defiler and he may have hold until ultras came out (without losing the nat and all those drones at his third).

Tense game anyway
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noojOh
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States755 Posts
May 29 2010 08:56 GMT
#1258
actually i think jaedong really really did expect mech or some valkyerie shit that flash likes to do
flash made a bunker, jaedong did not attack or sacrifice an ol to see anything so was completely blind and so when flash moved out with a bio force, he probably panicked a bit
ftw
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 29 2010 08:56 GMT
#1259
On May 29 2010 17:56 snowdrift86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:52 tree.hugger wrote:
See how this works?

Flash goes for an econ cheese against EffOrt and loses, everyone calls it stupid. Flash goes for an econ cheese against Jaedong, and it's brilliant. This is how Flash always plays.



psst, Flash using cheese = cool and awesome
Flash losing games because of cheese = gay and winner didnt deserve it
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
May 29 2010 08:57 GMT
#1260
On May 29 2010 17:55 Iplaythings wrote:
Meh, Remember how Flash expanded and managed his macro like a man, just because flash really sloppily let those scourges move over to his sv's doesnt mean bad play, both their play was sick. Jaedong defiler timing + plague was what kept him in the game, because zlings alone cant handle firebats without plague.
But both went for sick calculated builds!


Agreed. I can't believe people are saying that EITHER player actuallyed played bad that game. Wtf.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
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