On May 23 2010 13:37 SuperArc wrote: JvZ at its best lol.
Jaedong didnt panic and sent his lings down to open his ramp.
JD was luckey he didnt lose his hatch
It was either killing hatch or lose all mutalisks, Peace had to save his mutalisks you know?
Peace had so many more lings than JD that if he'd just A-moved JD's natural while distracting JD's Mutas, it would have been a very different game. Either JD continues to pursue Peace's mutas (in which case he'll lose his natural) or he sends his Mutas back to help defend in which case Peace loses a lot less Mutas (and possibly even escapes with most of his lings as he'll notice the second JD turns his Mutas around).
Either way, had Peace simply A-moved his lings, he would have been in a much, much better position. Not saying he would have won, but JD was lucky that his opponent screwed up (I know his intimidation can cause that, just saying).
Also it's worth noting that had Peace's multitasking been even better and he'd managed the lings at JD's natural instead of just A-moving, he could have done even more.
Wait, so did peace not a-move his lings or did he?
On May 23 2010 13:40 foxmeep wrote: JD was never going to lose that hatch no matter what Peace did....
During the big muta fight/chase that peace lost his lings weren't attacking the hatchery.
Pretty sure they were for a bit, then they stopped. And JD would've turned his mutas around sooner and used his lings on the ramp if he had to. That hatch was never going down.
There was still the threat of mutas running into his main, JD was almost fully focused on the air battle anyway and that number of lings takes down a hatch very fast.
Even if Peace was in a bad position to begin with he made it quite a bit worse.
On May 23 2010 13:42 QuakerOats wrote: Yeah I think if Peace killed the hatch JD would have just gone for the kill right there, as Peace's mutas were getting hit constantly while trying to escape.
If he Peace had gone for the Hatch it would have been strictly better than not going for it. JD definitely might still have just won immediately, point is just all it took was one click and he didn't do it.
Yeah I agree, I was confused as hell when I saw the hatch didn't die actually. I think letting the hatch live kept Peace in the game for a few minutes more though, haha.
There you go. Replay. Hatch was not being attacked for merely a few seconds? And JD gave chase for ages. JD was still managing his units at the nat as you see his drone run away.
Hatch was never ever going down.
Edit: but yes Peace should have been attacking it with all lings earlier, instead of 1/2. He would've saved many of his mutas, not that it mattered =P
On May 23 2010 13:50 foxmeep wrote: There you go. Replay. Hatch was not being attacked for merely a few seconds? And JD gave chase for ages. JD was still managing his units at the nat as you see his drone run away.
Hatch was never ever going down.
Ah I didn't see the replay, but if you're so sure I'm not going to argue.
On May 23 2010 13:37 SuperArc wrote: JvZ at its best lol.
Jaedong didnt panic and sent his lings down to open his ramp.
JD was luckey he didnt lose his hatch
It was either killing hatch or lose all mutalisks, Peace had to save his mutalisks you know?
Peace had so many more lings than JD that if he'd just A-moved JD's natural while distracting JD's Mutas, it would have been a very different game. Either JD continues to pursue Peace's mutas (in which case he'll lose his natural) or he sends his Mutas back to help defend in which case Peace loses a lot less Mutas (and possibly even escapes with most of his lings as he'll notice the second JD turns his Mutas around).
Either way, had Peace simply A-moved his lings, he would have been in a much, much better position. Not saying he would have won, but JD was lucky that his opponent screwed up (I know his intimidation can cause that, just saying).
Also it's worth noting that had Peace's multitasking been even better and he'd managed the lings at JD's natural instead of just A-moving, he could have done even more.
Wait, so did peace not a-move his lings or did he?
Sorry for being unclear. My point was had he even A-moved, it would have helped, but if he'd A-moved plus multitasked a bit, he probably could have done a lot.