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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13076 Posts
May 22 2010 13:17 GMT
#5541
Flash wheres your 70-80% win ratio now bo5 is in a totaly different league than pwning noobs in bo1 and bo3.

I hope MSL will be at least as epic as this OSL without the tech problems ofc lol
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 22 2010 13:18 GMT
#5542
FUCK YES EFFORT RETURNED!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
May 22 2010 13:18 GMT
#5543
This isn't going to help Flash's confidence against the Dong.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13412 Posts
May 22 2010 13:18 GMT
#5544
BTW, haven't had a chance to read the thread but how are the Flash fanboys justifying the loss this time?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2726 Posts
May 22 2010 13:18 GMT
#5545
On May 22 2010 22:17 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 22:09 InTheFade wrote:
On May 22 2010 22:04 kNyTTyM wrote:
man this is why Terrans rage. You are so much freaking better then your opponent but you can still loss to stupid shit. I know I'm sounding like Idra but Flash is like the beastliest Terran player ever but mass lings and muta allins still kill you.
I'm genuinely angry right now

Retard alert.


Agreed. Seriously, for all you losers saying Effort cheesed his way to victory:

Game 3, Yes Effort went fast mutas, but the ling attack is what won him the game.
Game 4, Flash proxied (CHEESE), Effort responded.
Game 5, Flash 14 cc'd (CHEESE), Effort responded.

And ANY non-retarded person knows Terran has infinitely more cheese options than Zerg has.


this. Why if Terran cheese is good but if zerg cheese if bad? Flash have done proxy barrack and 14cc and monitor cheese.
Mallard
Profile Joined January 2010
United States129 Posts
May 22 2010 13:18 GMT
#5546
Does it really matter how Effort won? A win is a win. They are not playing to learn or hone their skills. They are playing to win a tournament. At the end of the tournament Effort has the big trophy and the big check. Thats all that matters.
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
May 22 2010 13:18 GMT
#5547
Aww.. poor Flash.
Now when Jaedong wins the MSL and STX prevail at Shinhan Bank.. it's gonna be sad.
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
May 22 2010 13:19 GMT
#5548
I'm hoping for Flash to get his revenge in MSL but let's be honest, that's unlikely...

:'(
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 13:19:16
May 22 2010 13:19 GMT
#5549
On May 22 2010 22:18 RowdierBob wrote:
BTW, haven't had a chance to read the thread but how are the Flash fanboys justifying the loss this time?

No justification. Flash just played retardedly three games in a row for whatever reason.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
May 22 2010 13:19 GMT
#5550
People need to stop raging at Effort, seriously. Game 3 was a fantastic mindgame by Effort. He won because Flash played with stupid, cheesy strategies in games 4 and 5, and Effort responded appropriately.

Yeah, he won through all-ins, but it's not like they were just blind 5pools. If anyone is honestly going to say going all-in with lings in response to a 14CC is "gay," then you are way too much of a Flash/Terran fanboy.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 13:20:10
May 22 2010 13:19 GMT
#5551
Anyone complaining that Effort got "lucky" in winning against a 14cc is ridiculous. There were no cheeses this series, except the BBS by Flash in Game 3 and he even canceled that.

Good scouting is not "Luck"
Hidden ling flank is not "Luck"
Beating 14cc is not "Luck"

Flash has weaknesses, Effort exploited them. If you want to watch two long games where Flash loses, check out CJ vs KT in Proleague.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 22 2010 13:19 GMT
#5552
On May 22 2010 22:18 RowdierBob wrote:
BTW, haven't had a chance to read the thread but how are the Flash fanboys justifying the loss this time?

I don't know effort is obviously the better player.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
May 22 2010 13:19 GMT
#5553
How are people praising these finals? Did I miss something?

Am I not emotionally invested enough that when a player I like wins a game in some stupid fashion I jump for joy and declare it great? These games sucked. Game 2 was the only decent one. I like Flash and Effort, but these games sucked. They just did.

I guess I'm more of a fan of BW than I am of the players?
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
May 22 2010 13:20 GMT
#5554
On May 22 2010 22:15 Silentness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 22:11 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
how mush money effort won??


better question is... how much money did FLASH make (side bets)


rumours say, that after this debacle Flash will get kicked from KT. But an unknown Mr. Ma already offered Flash a new contract for an Airforce-Ace-like team. Also other topplayers get related to this new team.
But until now KESPA has not confirmed the new team, since they are checking, if they can guarantee all securitystandards, so that no player escapes during the games and everyone can return safely to their practice house.
Stay tuned!
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2726 Posts
May 22 2010 13:20 GMT
#5555
4 game was good, Effort did a great flank and stop a lot of drops.
SuperXlax
Profile Joined March 2010
United States197 Posts
May 22 2010 13:20 GMT
#5556
On May 22 2010 22:15 Tuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 22:14 SuperXlax wrote:
On May 22 2010 22:13 sAAvior wrote:
It wasn't zergling allin for all the retards caliming so. He just built some zerglings, scouted bs build of Flash and saw clear way to exploit it by building more zerglings.

If Flash defended that effort would have been so far behind it wouldn't have even mattered, that's what you call an "all-in".

Actually all-in is build where there is no followup, EffOrt had lair up so he could've gone either muta or lurkers, so it wasn't all-in

With what larva? He spent it all on lings.


On May 22 2010 22:16 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 22:14 SuperXlax wrote:
On May 22 2010 22:13 sAAvior wrote:
It wasn't zergling allin for all the retards caliming so. He just built some zerglings, scouted bs build of Flash and saw clear way to exploit it by building more zerglings.

If Flash defended that effort would have been so far behind it wouldn't have even mattered, that's what you call an "all-in".


So almost every terran push is an all-in?

I'm just trying to get the semantics right.

How does this post make any sense? Terrans push to force you to spend resources on things besides workers/tech, or if it's big enough, win. (read: timing push)
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 13:21:41
May 22 2010 13:20 GMT
#5557
On May 22 2010 22:16 anch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 22:14 Lucumo wrote:
On May 22 2010 22:10 anch wrote:
i still think Flash is gosu (game 1 and 2 were flawless), but for shitass reasons he played like garbage at game 4 and 5.
all because he thinks he has it in the bag.

Lol, didn't you even watch all games?

i did, what are you disagreeing on.
game 4 were just proxy scouted (and failed later on)and game 5 BO disadvantage.

On May 22 2010 22:16 anch wrote:i still think Flash is gosu (game 1 and 2 were flawless)
Especially game 2 where he lost all his marines without doing any damage(except for the three sunkens, but that's their purpose).

Anyway, gonna take a nap.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
May 22 2010 13:20 GMT
#5558
On May 22 2010 22:19 Hot_Bid wrote:
Anyone complaining that Effort got "lucky" in winning against a 14cc is ridiculous. There were no cheeses this series, except the BBS by Flash in Game 3 and he even canceled that.

Good scouting is not "Luck"
Hidden ling flank is not "Luck"
Beating 14cc is not "Luck"

Flash has weaknesses, Effort exploited them. If you want to watch two long games where Flash loses, check out CJ vs KT in Proleague.
BW is back
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
May 22 2010 13:20 GMT
#5559
It's why you play the game people. It's not about who's the better player, if that were the case, we'd HAVE to give it to Flash; hell, there'd be no point in having televised games, just take the stats and add them up. It's about who is the better player on any given day, and today, it was Effort. Shout "CHEESE" at the top of your lungs as much as you want, I'm sure that will make the butthurt go away, but in the end Effort saw the holes in Flashes game, and went for it. GG.
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
May 22 2010 13:20 GMT
#5560
On May 22 2010 22:18 RowdierBob wrote:
BTW, haven't had a chance to read the thread but how are the Flash fanboys justifying the loss this time?

With a smile, knowing that another great player just got away with some really clever stuff and won 3 fair games to take the title.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
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