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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On May 22 2010 21:15 Vasoline73 wrote:
Gotta feel like that was 20% build order and 80% luck giving Effort that win. :/.
Anyways, hopefully we get a good 4th game but I doubt it. Efforts play has been bad this series..
Haters gotta hate, honestly.
You want to talk about luck? Talk about Game 1. You want to talk about skill? Talk about Game 2. You want to talk about a well-prepared build order? Game 3.
But enough of this goddamn "EffOrt's ZvT is so bad" nonsense.
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I just wanna see Effort wining 4th game dont care what happens after that
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I'm sure Flash moved out his marines because he thought Effort would have to defend two different locations, and did not think Effort had lots of Zerglings.
Flash may've thought that since Effort lost 3-4 zerglings poking into his front (but didn't show many others) that Effort didn't have many zerglings anymore, so he was free to attack.
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On May 22 2010 21:17 SkelA wrote:
I just wanna see Effort wining 4th game dont care what happens after that
same here, then it would get really exciting :D
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On May 22 2010 21:17 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Hopefully this restores Effort's confidence and we get a good game 4. I don't want this series to be worse than Flash vs Calm.
Flash vs Calm allready was better.
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On May 22 2010 21:16 StylishVODs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 21:15 SuperArc wrote:On May 22 2010 21:14 StylishVODs wrote:On May 22 2010 21:13 Qwertify wrote:On May 22 2010 21:10 SuperArc wrote:On May 22 2010 21:09 Navane wrote:
How did effort open this game? He opened with a hidden 12hatch at 9 followed by pool and gas "faking" a 2 hatch build since Flash expected a third hatch in Effort's natural, but Effort double faked and did a 2 hatch build. And it was fucking sweet. That 3rd is also pretty safe since it takes so much time to get there and you have a nice way to cut off reinforcements in the line from top left base to the 12 o'clock. That and the opponents forces will be spread. hehe he didn't fake anything wtf... Why do you think Flash moved out with his rines then? He didn't expect mass lings but 300 minerals into a third hatch. coz his scv died, he took a chance. Moving out with 10 marines and 2 medics to preassure zergs expansion into making sunkens.
And this is exactly the way to beat Flash - use his game sense against him.
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On May 22 2010 21:17 SkelA wrote:
I just wanna see Effort wining 4th game dont care what happens after that
I'd be very satisfied if he won one more game
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oh my Flash is going to win now 
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On May 22 2010 21:16 Live2Win wrote:
I don't think people appreciate the genius of Effort's strategy. He initially showed about 8 zerglings with speed, and started dancing around and trying to get SCV/marine kills. He pretended to "mess up" (or maybe he really did) by letting about half or more of his lings die, and then backed off with the few he had.
Flash, knowing he got a good few zergling kills assumed effort was now going into muta production (since he went 2 hatch lair) and moved out to force sunkens, except effort had made another 8 or so zerglings and had them waiting outside of Flash's base.
In other words Effort purposefully lost a few zerglings to bait Flash, which flash fell for and thus, we have a game 4.
Even though I know it has to be trolling, I am nonetheless infuriated by this.
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All I know is that Effort is trying REALLY HARD getting a build porder advantage, coz he knows he needs it It's pretty risky builds he's using.
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On May 22 2010 21:16 StylishVODs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 21:15 SuperArc wrote:On May 22 2010 21:14 StylishVODs wrote:On May 22 2010 21:13 Qwertify wrote:On May 22 2010 21:10 SuperArc wrote:On May 22 2010 21:09 Navane wrote:
How did effort open this game? He opened with a hidden 12hatch at 9 followed by pool and gas "faking" a 2 hatch build since Flash expected a third hatch in Effort's natural, but Effort double faked and did a 2 hatch build. And it was fucking sweet. That 3rd is also pretty safe since it takes so much time to get there and you have a nice way to cut off reinforcements in the line from top left base to the 12 o'clock. That and the opponents forces will be spread. hehe he didn't fake anything wtf... Why do you think Flash moved out with his rines then? He didn't expect mass lings but 300 minerals into a third hatch. coz his scv died, he took a chance. Moving out with 10 marines and 2 medics to preassure zergs expansion into making sunkens.
No. If he thought Effort was going for a 2 hatch play, he would not try to pressure while FEing. The only really viable explanation for moving out is if Effort took his natural.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
On May 22 2010 21:17 Severedevil wrote:
I'm sure Flash moved out his marines because he thought Effort would have to defend two different locations, and did not think Effort had lots of Zerglings.
Flash may've thought that since Effort lost 3-4 zerglings poking into his front (but didn't show many others) that Effort didn't have many zerglings anymore, so he was free to attack.
exactly. I think Effort purposely "lost" those zerglings to get Flash to be confident and move out.
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he wasn't going to make drones wtf, he made early 2nd gas and put 3 drones in it and researched ling speed and make like 10 lings it was pretty all in from the get go. the lings were to kill turrets/marines to weaken T's defence or can be combined for mutaling later on attack.
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United States47024 Posts
On May 22 2010 21:12 ProoM wrote:
3-2 incoming, Flash won't get his golden mouse (-_-)!
Fixed.
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Agreed. The only way that people can beat flash is to mindfuck him hopelessly
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On May 22 2010 21:18 MayorITC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 21:16 StylishVODs wrote:On May 22 2010 21:15 SuperArc wrote:On May 22 2010 21:14 StylishVODs wrote:On May 22 2010 21:13 Qwertify wrote:On May 22 2010 21:10 SuperArc wrote:On May 22 2010 21:09 Navane wrote:
How did effort open this game? He opened with a hidden 12hatch at 9 followed by pool and gas "faking" a 2 hatch build since Flash expected a third hatch in Effort's natural, but Effort double faked and did a 2 hatch build. And it was fucking sweet. That 3rd is also pretty safe since it takes so much time to get there and you have a nice way to cut off reinforcements in the line from top left base to the 12 o'clock. That and the opponents forces will be spread. hehe he didn't fake anything wtf... Why do you think Flash moved out with his rines then? He didn't expect mass lings but 300 minerals into a third hatch. coz his scv died, he took a chance. Moving out with 10 marines and 2 medics to preassure zergs expansion into making sunkens. No. If he thought Effort was going for a 2 hatch play, he would not try to pressure while FEing.
oh please... if you don't make a fast ebay you have to preassure.
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I want some of that Flash juice.
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On May 22 2010 21:17 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Hopefully this restores Effort's confidence and we get a good game 4. I don't want this series to be worse than Flash vs Calm.
... that series was pretty good.
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On May 22 2010 21:18 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 21:17 SkelA wrote:
I just wanna see Effort wining 4th game dont care what happens after that I'd be very satisfied if he won one more game
me too.
not trying to be bias but it seems like all the maps are slighty terran favoured
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Now flash, show the magic and win this shizz already!
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EPT
