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KaRnaGe[cF]
Profile Joined September 2007
United States355 Posts
May 22 2010 12:12 GMT
#4141
On May 22 2010 21:09 alexpnd wrote:
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On May 22 2010 21:09 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:07 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Wow really nice all in from effort.


Wasn't an allin! And nice sneak in with the lings to kill turret!


He had 2 drones at his expo...


Yeah he would have made drones had Flash not thrown his marines away. Effort smelt blood and went for more. Can't really call a 2 hatch muta an allin when early harass is its main focus.
"We must remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school." - Athenian General Thucydides Quantum Gaming
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
May 22 2010 12:12 GMT
#4142
I've been up since midnignt and it's 5:12 now i'm going to sleep now i seriously can't hold much longer =,=
┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
May 22 2010 12:12 GMT
#4143
On May 22 2010 21:11 tree.hugger wrote:
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On May 22 2010 21:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:09 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:07 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Wow really nice all in from effort.


Wasn't an allin! And nice sneak in with the lings to kill turret!


Um he had like 15 drones. It was completely all in.

I think all we can say is that he went all-in after Flash lost his marines, and EffOrt knew all he needed to do was keep making mutas. I don't think his strategy was to all-in mutas, just to two hatch. But I don't know that for sure.

Wut, that was an allin.....
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
May 22 2010 12:12 GMT
#4144
2hatch muta with 15 drones is and aways will be an all-in strategy. But Effort needed this win badly to get a bit of confidence back. I still don't think it will be enough but I'm hoping for a good game now.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 22 2010 12:12 GMT
#4145
On May 22 2010 21:11 DatTheMighty wrote:
this was yarnc builds lol no? anyone remember the game on ace match ktf vs sparkys andromeda, where flash lifted his natural cc and eventually won? losing that group of mnm was crucial


Exactly. It's a build the zergs twins would love to pull.

Luxury missing gave Flash this loss.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
May 22 2010 12:12 GMT
#4146
Flash did not look pleased, no he did not.
KTY
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 22 2010 12:12 GMT
#4147
On May 22 2010 21:05 Iplaythings wrote:
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On May 22 2010 21:03 Ace wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:01 7mk wrote:
On May 22 2010 20:59 Ace wrote:
Everyone needs to stop saying Effort's ZvT is still insane. That was a year ago. 1 win in SPL against Flash doesn't mean his TvZ is back to S-class (and even then it isn't enough because Flash is showing some ridiculous game sense.)

Likewise, Action doing well in 1 game vs Flash (and he didn't even do THAT good) doesn't mean he's more favored than Effort in a bo5 vs Flash.

Stop trolling the thread with these outrageous comments :/


?
Action has been showing ridiculous late game ZvT for a while now, not just in one game vs flash


oh gee. Every year we have Zergs that show great late game play. That doesn't mean we are going to start clamoring for them to be favored vs X player. Action's ZvT never hit the level of Effort or we'd be seeing some insane winning streaks from him.

Thats because his mid-early game is so mediocore >_> And I haven't seen Jaedong doing better defiler management that Action that game. Ever.

I have.
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ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
May 22 2010 12:12 GMT
#4148
3-2 incoming, Flash won't get his golden mouse ^_^!
IMBA - International Mountain Bicycling Association.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
May 22 2010 12:13 GMT
#4149
thank god for the mute button
BW is back
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 22 2010 12:13 GMT
#4150
I really hope that Flash takes the next game so he won't have to play a deciding game on MP. That map is his cryptonite.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Han Solo
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom199 Posts
May 22 2010 12:13 GMT
#4151
This music is so bad.
InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
May 22 2010 12:13 GMT
#4152
cheese incoming, i hope.
... Knowmsayin'?
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
May 22 2010 12:13 GMT
#4153
On May 22 2010 21:10 SuperArc wrote:
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On May 22 2010 21:09 Navane wrote:
How did effort open this game?


He opened with a hidden 12hatch at 9 followed by pool and gas "faking" a 2 hatch build since Flash expected a third hatch in Effort's natural, but Effort double faked and did a 2 hatch build.


And it was fucking sweet. That 3rd is also pretty safe since it takes so much time to get there and you have a nice way to cut off reinforcements in the line from top left base to the 12 o'clock. That and the opponents forces will be spread.
CJ Entusman #24
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 12:14:17
May 22 2010 12:13 GMT
#4154
On May 22 2010 21:12 StylishVODs wrote:
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On May 22 2010 21:11 tree.hugger wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:09 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:07 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Wow really nice all in from effort.


Wasn't an allin! And nice sneak in with the lings to kill turret!


Um he had like 15 drones. It was completely all in.

I think all we can say is that he went all-in after Flash lost his marines, and EffOrt knew all he needed to do was keep making mutas. I don't think his strategy was to all-in mutas, just to two hatch. But I don't know that for sure.

making that many early lings from 2hatch is pretty much all in from the zerg. Nothing wrong with that..

No there isn't, I was just curious about that build. It's past the point, I guess, since it worked so well.
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LoStYouRSkiLLS
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia223 Posts
May 22 2010 12:14 GMT
#4155
On May 22 2010 21:08 samachking wrote:
If Flash plays like this vs JD hes going down 3-0. Horrible openings in game 2 and 3
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538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
May 22 2010 12:14 GMT
#4156
On May 22 2010 21:10 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 21:09 Navane wrote:
How did effort open this game?


He opened with a hidden 12hatch at 9 followed by pool and gas "faking" a 2 hatch build since Flash expected a third hatch in Effort's natural, but Effort double faked and did a 2 hatch build.


Average person: He went for a 2-hatch!
SuperArc, resident CJ fanboy: He fucking double-faked a 2-hatch!

I know, his hatch placement probably threw flash off, but its still funny :-p
BW fighting!
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
May 22 2010 12:14 GMT
#4157
Please win the next game, Flash, or else I'll be getting worried.
BW4Life!
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 22 2010 12:14 GMT
#4158
On May 22 2010 21:13 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 21:10 SuperArc wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:09 Navane wrote:
How did effort open this game?


He opened with a hidden 12hatch at 9 followed by pool and gas "faking" a 2 hatch build since Flash expected a third hatch in Effort's natural, but Effort double faked and did a 2 hatch build.


And it was fucking sweet. That 3rd is also pretty safe since it takes so much time to get there and you have a nice way to cut off reinforcements in the line from top left base to the 12 o'clock. That and the opponents forces will be spread.

hehe he didn't fake anything wtf...
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9430 Posts
May 22 2010 12:14 GMT
#4159
effort-556 max apm
hugeee
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ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
May 22 2010 12:15 GMT
#4160
On May 22 2010 21:12 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 21:05 Iplaythings wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:03 Ace wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:01 7mk wrote:
On May 22 2010 20:59 Ace wrote:
Everyone needs to stop saying Effort's ZvT is still insane. That was a year ago. 1 win in SPL against Flash doesn't mean his TvZ is back to S-class (and even then it isn't enough because Flash is showing some ridiculous game sense.)

Likewise, Action doing well in 1 game vs Flash (and he didn't even do THAT good) doesn't mean he's more favored than Effort in a bo5 vs Flash.

Stop trolling the thread with these outrageous comments :/


?
Action has been showing ridiculous late game ZvT for a while now, not just in one game vs flash


oh gee. Every year we have Zergs that show great late game play. That doesn't mean we are going to start clamoring for them to be favored vs X player. Action's ZvT never hit the level of Effort or we'd be seeing some insane winning streaks from him.

Thats because his mid-early game is so mediocore >_> And I haven't seen Jaedong doing better defiler management that Action that game. Ever.

I have.

Well, at least he hasn't forgotten consume ^_^, ZZZING!
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