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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 22 2010 12:10 GMT
#4121
On May 22 2010 21:09 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 21:09 StylishVODs wrote:
I don't understand why flash's timing was so off, he saw gastiming and pool timing from zerg.


He expected a third hatch in the natural.

but he saw the gas timing in main didn't he... it was clearly 2hatch.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
May 22 2010 12:10 GMT
#4122
lol dad was happy
┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
losso
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Bulgaria158 Posts
May 22 2010 12:10 GMT
#4123
this reminded me of kwanro vs flash @ fighting spirit, last season's MSL semi's..
HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
May 22 2010 12:10 GMT
#4124
Thank god no 3-0 rape at least...
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 22 2010 12:10 GMT
#4125
On May 22 2010 21:09 Navane wrote:
How did effort open this game?


He opened with a hidden 12hatch at 9 followed by pool and gas "faking" a 2 hatch build since Flash expected a third hatch in Effort's natural, but Effort double faked and did a 2 hatch build.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 22 2010 12:10 GMT
#4126
Flash looves to 3-1 finals vs CJ players apparently.
In the woods, there lurks..
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
May 22 2010 12:11 GMT
#4127
On May 22 2010 21:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 21:09 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:07 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Wow really nice all in from effort.


Wasn't an allin! And nice sneak in with the lings to kill turret!


Um he had like 15 drones. It was completely all in.

I think all we can say is that he went all-in after Flash lost his marines, and EffOrt knew all he needed to do was keep making mutas. I don't think his strategy was to all-in mutas, just to two hatch. But I don't know that for sure.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
May 22 2010 12:11 GMT
#4128
I went to eat thinking it would be 3-0 rape and now i see it's 2-1. Could someone pls give a summary of game 3?
I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work the luckier I am.
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
May 22 2010 12:11 GMT
#4129
On May 22 2010 21:09 Jubinell wrote:
so what did flash do wrong? rines out without medic and that's it?


He moved out to pressure the zerg, to keep his mutas at bay etc. He marched out single file with his group however and lings got a good surround. So that eliminated the pressure and also eliminated the marines that could later help defend the base if necessary.
CJ Entusman #24
DatTheMighty
Profile Joined March 2009
Vietnam122 Posts
May 22 2010 12:11 GMT
#4130
this was yarnc builds lol no? anyone remember the game on ace match ktf vs sparkys andromeda, where flash lifted his natural cc and eventually won? losing that group of mnm was crucial
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 22 2010 12:11 GMT
#4131
On May 22 2010 21:09 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 21:09 StylishVODs wrote:
I don't understand why flash's timing was so off, he saw gastiming and pool timing from zerg.


He expected a third hatch in the natural.


gas timing is different though for 2 hatch muta
beep boop
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 12:11:50
May 22 2010 12:11 GMT
#4132
I think Flash expected Effort to make another expo at his natural and wasn't expecting a 2 hatch play

Edit: already been said
cokencheese
Profile Joined October 2009
Philippines748 Posts
May 22 2010 12:11 GMT
#4133
On May 22 2010 21:08 Severedevil wrote:
Flash rubs his hands together, needs a heater for his booth.


UH-OH!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 22 2010 12:11 GMT
#4134
On May 22 2010 21:10 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 21:09 SuperArc wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:09 StylishVODs wrote:
I don't understand why flash's timing was so off, he saw gastiming and pool timing from zerg.


He expected a third hatch in the natural.

but he saw the gas timing in main didn't he... it was clearly 2hatch.


Yeah, but many zergs get a third hatch after the lair instead of pumping lings.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
May 22 2010 12:11 GMT
#4135
Hell yeah, Effort! Let's pull a ggplay.

NICE COMMERCIAL.
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
May 22 2010 12:11 GMT
#4136
Flash lost to Kwanro in FS
Flash lost to JD in FS
Now, he also loses to EffOrt!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 12:12:38
May 22 2010 12:12 GMT
#4137
On May 22 2010 21:11 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 21:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:09 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:07 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Wow really nice all in from effort.


Wasn't an allin! And nice sneak in with the lings to kill turret!


Um he had like 15 drones. It was completely all in.

I think all we can say is that he went all-in after Flash lost his marines, and EffOrt knew all he needed to do was keep making mutas. I don't think his strategy was to all-in mutas, just to two hatch. But I don't know that for sure.


I mean they pretty deliberately showed his second hatch with only drones in gas and his main that was only saturated at the 12hatch stage of the game. He spent a TON of larva on lings.

I mean this wasn't an insult to Effort -- I called it nice. You guys don't need to take offense to me calling it All-In. I'm a freaking Flash fan, I can't complain about all ins. :x
Remember Violet.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 22 2010 12:12 GMT
#4138
On May 22 2010 21:11 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 21:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:09 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:07 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Wow really nice all in from effort.


Wasn't an allin! And nice sneak in with the lings to kill turret!


Um he had like 15 drones. It was completely all in.

I think all we can say is that he went all-in after Flash lost his marines, and EffOrt knew all he needed to do was keep making mutas. I don't think his strategy was to all-in mutas, just to two hatch. But I don't know that for sure.

making that many early lings from 2hatch is pretty much all in from the zerg. Nothing wrong with that..
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
May 22 2010 12:12 GMT
#4139
Those muta did "Terrible terrible damage."
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
peticco
Profile Joined February 2010
Hungary220 Posts
May 22 2010 12:12 GMT
#4140
Great games so far! btw this music is killin me :D
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