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Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
April 30 2010 10:30 GMT
#321
On April 30 2010 19:26 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:23 Itachii wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 konadora wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 moopie wrote:
it looked really 1 sided (plus a pretty early bm expo at 10 oclock). baby sure made flash fight for that win though, that was some great play. can't wait to see how baby does next season.

??

seconded, what the fuck


Maybe he doesn't know what BM means.

and he needs to look up "1 sided"
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 30 2010 10:30 GMT
#322
Pure gets the chubby stargirl today...bah!

Movie palming his heatpack. It seems so many BW venues are cold enough to chill the players' hands. But I suppose they might want to use them to warm up even at normal temperatures.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
April 30 2010 10:31 GMT
#323
On April 30 2010 19:26 darktreb wrote:
Part of this is other Terrans catching up in TvT (just as Zergs caught up in ZvZ during swarm season), but I'm a little surprised at how impatient Flash has seemed lately. It used to be that once he got a lead in a TvT, it got strictly bigger second by second for the rest of the game until he won.

Now it seems like he's been starting with a lead (in this particular game he had a big time build order win) and giving it back in more places by taking some risks. Not to say his TvT isn't still by far the best or anything.

Anyone else notice this?


He was under controlled risk imo. At 1 or 2 moments he was on the fringe but since he had powered so much earlier on he could sustain whatever baby was throwing at him, plus have that extra power to push into 12 like he was attempting to do. If he just sat there and let baby control his expos maybe then yes he would be at a bigger risk, but he was using his earlier advantage to make baby pull back or to simply crush the guerrilla units.
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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
April 30 2010 10:31 GMT
#324
On April 30 2010 19:29 darktreb wrote:
Old cheesy Flash still exists inside there, he's just suppressed and this hidden expo was a tiny glimpse of him.

lol, progamer psychoanalysis
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Prototype
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden56 Posts
April 30 2010 10:31 GMT
#325
On April 30 2010 19:26 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:23 QuothTheRaven wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:23 Itachii wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 konadora wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 moopie wrote:
it looked really 1 sided (plus a pretty early bm expo at 10 oclock). baby sure made flash fight for that win though, that was some great play. can't wait to see how baby does next season.

??

seconded, what the fuck

Was about to say the same thing. That was a great expo spot: simultaneously allowed him to take an expansion on what would have been Baby's side of the split map, and also deny Baby mining from another base. And if you have early game control and can set it up, it's just perfect.


except that its highly unusual and extremely risky at that point in the game as you lack the dropship count and army size to support and reinforce there. out of all the places to expo early on, across the map right by your opponent's main is not one of those.

There was nothing BM about taking that base. Flash's entire strategy revolved around securing and denying the bases closest to Baby with air-superiority and and early dropship play, hence the two-port opening.
"Do we live to play, or do we play to live?"
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 30 2010 10:32 GMT
#326
On April 30 2010 19:26 Qwertify wrote:
Maybe he doesn't know what BM means.

when's the last time you saw a player take an early expo on the opposite end (by the opponent's main) on barrier reef/el nino while not having the dropship count to reinforce if necessary? it didn't look like flash wasn't planning a long game there.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
April 30 2010 10:32 GMT
#327
On April 30 2010 19:31 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:29 darktreb wrote:
Old cheesy Flash still exists inside there, he's just suppressed and this hidden expo was a tiny glimpse of him.

lol, progamer psychoanalysis

hahahahha
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Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
April 30 2010 10:32 GMT
#328
On April 30 2010 19:28 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:26 darktreb wrote:
Part of this is other Terrans catching up in TvT (just as Zergs caught up in ZvZ during swarm season), but I'm a little surprised at how impatient Flash has seemed lately. It used to be that once he got a lead in a TvT, it got strictly bigger second by second for the rest of the game until he won.

Now it seems like he's been starting with a lead (in this particular game he had a big time build order win) and giving it back in more places by taking some risks. Not to say his TvT isn't still by far the best or anything.

Anyone else notice this?

yep, he sometimes plays a bit more risky, especially as of late.


agreed
FlaSh's play looks more risky, not clear why it was

Power is your Intelligence
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
April 30 2010 10:32 GMT
#329
On April 30 2010 19:29 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:26 darktreb wrote:
Part of this is other Terrans catching up in TvT (just as Zergs caught up in ZvZ during swarm season), but I'm a little surprised at how impatient Flash has seemed lately. It used to be that once he got a lead in a TvT, it got strictly bigger second by second for the rest of the game until he won.

Now it seems like he's been starting with a lead (in this particular game he had a big time build order win) and giving it back in more places by taking some risks. Not to say his TvT isn't still by far the best or anything.

Anyone else notice this?


Yeah like I said, his midgame blunders. Players like Really or Skyhigh (especially Skyhigh who makes tons of TvT comeback wins) would punish him severely for that.


Skyhigh's TvT is legitimately great but I think Really's is grossly overrated. I do agree that if Flash played like this against Skyhigh he might be in trouble. I still consider Flash a massive favorite over Really in all situations short of him playing his first TvT on a 2 player map (which he has been a little shaky at).
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 30 2010 10:33 GMT
#330
On April 30 2010 19:30 anch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:26 Qwertify wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:23 Itachii wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 konadora wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 moopie wrote:
it looked really 1 sided (plus a pretty early bm expo at 10 oclock). baby sure made flash fight for that win though, that was some great play. can't wait to see how baby does next season.

??

seconded, what the fuck


Maybe he doesn't know what BM means.

and he needs to look up "1 sided"


yeah, cause up until baby managed to stop mining on 3 of flash's expos, he was totally in control econ and army wise...
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
April 30 2010 10:33 GMT
#331
On April 30 2010 19:32 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:26 Qwertify wrote:
Maybe he doesn't know what BM means.

when's the last time you saw a player take an early expo on the opposite end (by the opponent's main) on barrier reef/el nino while not having the dropship count to reinforce if necessary? it didn't look like flash wasn't planning a long game there.

It wasn't bm.

It was a risky expo that payed off.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
April 30 2010 10:33 GMT
#332
On April 30 2010 19:32 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:26 Qwertify wrote:
Maybe he doesn't know what BM means.

when's the last time you saw a player take an early expo on the opposite end (by the opponent's main) on barrier reef/el nino while not having the dropship count to reinforce if necessary? it didn't look like flash wasn't planning a long game there.

lol wut?

the ninja expo there WAS for the long run, to mid-late game.
POGGERS
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 30 2010 10:33 GMT
#333
Set 2: Fighting Spirit

(P)Movie @ top right in blue

(P)Pure @ top left in orange
. . . nevermore
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 30 2010 10:33 GMT
#334
Time to show off the players' Fighting Spirit!

Pure the orange 100% Protoss at 11.
Movie the blue star Protoss at 1.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
April 30 2010 10:34 GMT
#335
On April 30 2010 19:29 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:26 darktreb wrote:
Part of this is other Terrans catching up in TvT (just as Zergs caught up in ZvZ during swarm season), but I'm a little surprised at how impatient Flash has seemed lately. It used to be that once he got a lead in a TvT, it got strictly bigger second by second for the rest of the game until he won.

Now it seems like he's been starting with a lead (in this particular game he had a big time build order win) and giving it back in more places by taking some risks. Not to say his TvT isn't still by far the best or anything.

Anyone else notice this?


Yeah like I said, his midgame blunders. Players like Really or Skyhigh (especially Skyhigh who makes tons of TvT comeback wins) would punish him severely for that.

Your blatant bias against Flash is hilarious.

Really is terrible, so is Skyhigh.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
April 30 2010 10:34 GMT
#336
On April 30 2010 19:31 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:29 darktreb wrote:
Old cheesy Flash still exists inside there, he's just suppressed and this hidden expo was a tiny glimpse of him.

lol, progamer psychoanalysis

rofl
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9I3bI4HuK
Profile Joined December 2009
Russian Federation41 Posts
April 30 2010 10:34 GMT
#337
gogo pure
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51693 Posts
April 30 2010 10:34 GMT
#338
pure's dad looks serial.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
April 30 2010 10:34 GMT
#339
pure's dad

he has a jaebol feel
POGGERS
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 30 2010 10:35 GMT
#340
Both players scouting pretty early.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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