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J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
April 30 2010 10:25 GMT
#301
Flash probably would have lost if it had gone to Match Point.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 30 2010 10:25 GMT
#302
What's wrong with Flash and his midgame blunders lately?

First Lomo, then MVP and now Baby.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 30 2010 10:25 GMT
#303
On April 30 2010 19:21 ThePhan2m wrote:
marketing this OSL has been crazy, all those cool adds and effects

Yeah the Korean Air branding has been done very well. The model plane in the "stadium" is a very good touch as well. Hopefully sponsors are impressed with how OGN pulled it off and will continue to pay up lucrative amounts of sponsorship money.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 30 2010 10:26 GMT
#304
On April 30 2010 19:25 okum wrote:
It's a shame Day[9] doesn't do BW anymore, because I'd have loved his commentary on this game.

He still does the occasional BW commentary on the D9D. Though he was actually playing some SC2 games instead of watching this match right now
. . . nevermore
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
April 30 2010 10:26 GMT
#305
On April 30 2010 19:23 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:20 konadora wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 moopie wrote:
it looked really 1 sided (plus a pretty early bm expo at 10 oclock). baby sure made flash fight for that win though, that was some great play. can't wait to see how baby does next season.

??

seconded, what the fuck


Maybe he doesn't know what BM means.
CJ Entusman #24
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 30 2010 10:26 GMT
#306
On April 30 2010 19:23 QuothTheRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:23 Itachii wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 konadora wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 moopie wrote:
it looked really 1 sided (plus a pretty early bm expo at 10 oclock). baby sure made flash fight for that win though, that was some great play. can't wait to see how baby does next season.

??

seconded, what the fuck

Was about to say the same thing. That was a great expo spot: simultaneously allowed him to take an expansion on what would have been Baby's side of the split map, and also deny Baby mining from another base. And if you have early game control and can set it up, it's just perfect.


except that its highly unusual and extremely risky at that point in the game as you lack the dropship count and army size to support and reinforce there. out of all the places to expo early on, across the map right by your opponent's main is not one of those.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
April 30 2010 10:26 GMT
#307
Part of this is other Terrans catching up in TvT (just as Zergs caught up in ZvZ during swarm season), but I'm a little surprised at how impatient Flash has seemed lately. It used to be that once he got a lead in a TvT, it got strictly bigger second by second for the rest of the game until he won.

Now it seems like he's been starting with a lead (in this particular game he had a big time build order win) and giving it back in more places by taking some risks. Not to say his TvT isn't still by far the best or anything.

Anyone else notice this?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
April 30 2010 10:27 GMT
#308
On April 30 2010 19:25 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:21 ThePhan2m wrote:
marketing this OSL has been crazy, all those cool adds and effects

Yeah the Korean Air branding has been done very well. The model plane in the "stadium" is a very good touch as well. Hopefully sponsors are impressed with how OGN pulled it off and will continue to pay up lucrative amounts of sponsorship money.

I can't think of any bigger sponsor than Korean Air atm though
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QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 10:28:02
April 30 2010 10:27 GMT
#309
On April 30 2010 19:26 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:23 QuothTheRaven wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:23 Itachii wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 konadora wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 moopie wrote:
it looked really 1 sided (plus a pretty early bm expo at 10 oclock). baby sure made flash fight for that win though, that was some great play. can't wait to see how baby does next season.

??

seconded, what the fuck

Was about to say the same thing. That was a great expo spot: simultaneously allowed him to take an expansion on what would have been Baby's side of the split map, and also deny Baby mining from another base. And if you have early game control and can set it up, it's just perfect.


except that its highly unusual and extremely risky at that point in the game as you lack the dropship count and army size to support and reinforce there. out of all the places to expo early on, across the map right by your opponent's main is not one of those.

Flash dropped the SCV there with his 1st dropship, then came back pretty soon with 3-4 dropships since he used his double port to get faster dropships. He knew he had more dropships than Baby, since Baby only had 1 port and was making wraiths/valks as well.

I'm not saying it was completely safe, but it's pretty far from BM.
. . . nevermore
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
April 30 2010 10:27 GMT
#310
On April 30 2010 19:26 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:23 Itachii wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 konadora wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 moopie wrote:
it looked really 1 sided (plus a pretty early bm expo at 10 oclock). baby sure made flash fight for that win though, that was some great play. can't wait to see how baby does next season.

??

seconded, what the fuck


Maybe he doesn't know what BM means.


Blackman?

the all exping uberzerg with magical AIs?

seems like a normal sentence to me
its me
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 30 2010 10:28 GMT
#311
Wow, the scene looks so much different now that the sun has set. Both players pretty mediocre in their last 10 game results...
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
April 30 2010 10:28 GMT
#312
On April 30 2010 19:26 darktreb wrote:
Part of this is other Terrans catching up in TvT (just as Zergs caught up in ZvZ during swarm season), but I'm a little surprised at how impatient Flash has seemed lately. It used to be that once he got a lead in a TvT, it got strictly bigger second by second for the rest of the game until he won.

Now it seems like he's been starting with a lead (in this particular game he had a big time build order win) and giving it back in more places by taking some risks. Not to say his TvT isn't still by far the best or anything.

Anyone else notice this?

yep, he sometimes plays a bit more risky, especially as of late.
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
April 30 2010 10:28 GMT
#313
On April 30 2010 19:27 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:26 Qwertify wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:23 Itachii wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 konadora wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 moopie wrote:
it looked really 1 sided (plus a pretty early bm expo at 10 oclock). baby sure made flash fight for that win though, that was some great play. can't wait to see how baby does next season.

??

seconded, what the fuck


Maybe he doesn't know what BM means.


Blackman?

the all exping uberzerg with magical AIs?

seems like a normal sentence to me

...
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
April 30 2010 10:29 GMT
#314
go Movie
Match of the night
Power is your Intelligence
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 30 2010 10:29 GMT
#315
recommend flash and baby's games, NOW!
In the woods, there lurks..
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
April 30 2010 10:29 GMT
#316
flash is just mixing up his gameplay. he may not be comfortable with these new styles though maybe thats why he is making so many errors lately.
Woo Jung Ho
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 30 2010 10:29 GMT
#317
On April 30 2010 19:26 darktreb wrote:
Part of this is other Terrans catching up in TvT (just as Zergs caught up in ZvZ during swarm season), but I'm a little surprised at how impatient Flash has seemed lately. It used to be that once he got a lead in a TvT, it got strictly bigger second by second for the rest of the game until he won.

Now it seems like he's been starting with a lead (in this particular game he had a big time build order win) and giving it back in more places by taking some risks. Not to say his TvT isn't still by far the best or anything.

Anyone else notice this?


Yeah like I said, his midgame blunders. Players like Really or Skyhigh (especially Skyhigh who makes tons of TvT comeback wins) would punish him severely for that.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
April 30 2010 10:29 GMT
#318
On April 30 2010 19:26 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 19:23 QuothTheRaven wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:23 Itachii wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 konadora wrote:
On April 30 2010 19:20 moopie wrote:
it looked really 1 sided (plus a pretty early bm expo at 10 oclock). baby sure made flash fight for that win though, that was some great play. can't wait to see how baby does next season.

??

seconded, what the fuck

Was about to say the same thing. That was a great expo spot: simultaneously allowed him to take an expansion on what would have been Baby's side of the split map, and also deny Baby mining from another base. And if you have early game control and can set it up, it's just perfect.


except that its highly unusual and extremely risky at that point in the game as you lack the dropship count and army size to support and reinforce there. out of all the places to expo early on, across the map right by your opponent's main is not one of those.


I think it's worth noting that this was guaranteed to be Flash's last TvT on Great Barrier Reef this OSL (and probably forever as it'll likely be replaced for next season), which probably contributed to his decision to take a risk like that.

Flash rarely takes risks like that because he plays so many games that his time is better spent refining the basic understanding of each map to a point where he can win not only his current game but also future games on the map. This was a unique situation where he knew for a fact that he wouldn't play another TvT on this map for a long time (probably forever). Old cheesy Flash still exists inside there, he's just suppressed and this hidden expo was a tiny glimpse of him.
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
April 30 2010 10:30 GMT
#319
Go Pure!
Flash returns...
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
April 30 2010 10:30 GMT
#320
Pure's dad is on-site to cheer for him!

I gotta support for Movie though, so that I can watch Flash rape him again -_-
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