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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 09:41:40
April 24 2010 09:41 GMT
#421
On April 24 2010 18:40 Zona wrote:
FAntasy adding raxes?
oh no...


inb4 switch to bio into switch to mech into bio mech into pure bio into mass tank
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
April 24 2010 09:41 GMT
#422
On April 24 2010 18:40 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 18:39 APurpleCow wrote:
On April 24 2010 18:37 SuperArc wrote:
On April 24 2010 18:36 APurpleCow wrote:
On April 24 2010 18:35 okum wrote:
12 hatch again.

I guess if you do it sufficiently often, opponents won't be able to guess it because it doesn't make any sense.


........

12 hatch is a pretty safe opening vs Terran.

3 hatch before pool isn't.


lol no.

12hatch is very very hard to defend against 8rax if the terran knows what he's doing.


12 hatch is used in almost every game. What the hell are you talking about?


Yeah and every game terran counters with rax expand and guess who's winning more games lately?

8rax/rax expand > 12 hatch.


I think you should play more BW. Because trust me, 12hat is the best thing you can actually do. And that is terrible statistics. Did you ever think that the mu might be slightly imba in favour of Terran, or just that Zergs are sucking in comparison to terrans recently?
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 24 2010 09:41 GMT
#423
Mutalisks out now for Calm. Fantasy's turrets are up in time, and he has plenty of goliaths.
. . . nevermore
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 24 2010 09:42 GMT
#424
Calm expanding to 7 as well.

Mutas eat a salvo from 5 goliaths

they're picking off tanks at Fantasy's natural!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
April 24 2010 09:42 GMT
#425
On April 24 2010 18:40 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 18:39 APurpleCow wrote:
On April 24 2010 18:37 SuperArc wrote:
On April 24 2010 18:36 APurpleCow wrote:
On April 24 2010 18:35 okum wrote:
12 hatch again.

I guess if you do it sufficiently often, opponents won't be able to guess it because it doesn't make any sense.


........

12 hatch is a pretty safe opening vs Terran.

3 hatch before pool isn't.


lol no.

12hatch is very very hard to defend against 8rax if the terran knows what he's doing.


12 hatch is used in almost every game. What the hell are you talking about?


Yeah and every game terran counters with rax expand and guess who's winning more games lately?

8rax/rax expand > 12 hatch.


...

lol?

If rax/expand, a very safe opening by any standards that doesn't really have any problem holding 9 pool, beats the most economical Zerg opening, then I shudder to think how badly 9 pool/overpool/12 pool would do against it.

Are you like D-?
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 24 2010 09:42 GMT
#426
Calm takes a ton of damage on his mutas, but takes out 2 tanks.
. . . nevermore
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 24 2010 09:43 GMT
#427
Calm adding another hatch at his main


More muta harass at Fantasy's nat - 3 scvs and a turret kill
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 24 2010 09:43 GMT
#428
another tank picked off - but fantasy still has more
the mutas definitely see the rines

10 lurkers morphing for Calm
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 24 2010 09:43 GMT
#429
Calm takes even more damage and loses 2 mutas to snipe another tank. LOTS of lurkers morphing now.

Calm on 4 bases. Fantasy still on 2.
. . . nevermore
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
April 24 2010 09:43 GMT
#430
Lots of lurkers morphing..around 10
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
April 24 2010 09:43 GMT
#431
Fantasy needs to push out soon. Otherwise he'll get overrun by the mass bases Calm is putting up.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
April 24 2010 09:43 GMT
#432
mass lurker incoming after taking down some tanks. Will it end in utter fail?
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
April 24 2010 09:43 GMT
#433
Calm morphing like a control group worth of lurkers oh shit.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
April 24 2010 09:43 GMT
#434
thats a lot of lurkers
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 24 2010 09:44 GMT
#435
Fantasy about to push out

Mutas head into Fantasy's main, by the rax - Fantasy's army is elsewhere
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
April 24 2010 09:44 GMT
#436
On April 24 2010 18:41 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 18:40 Zona wrote:
FAntasy adding raxes?
oh no...


inb4 switch to bio into switch to mech into bio mech into pure bio into mass tank


my thoughts exactly
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 24 2010 09:44 GMT
#437
Fantasy's mutas fly right over the rax, so he knows the back-tech is coming now.
. . . nevermore
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
April 24 2010 09:44 GMT
#438
I hope those are hold lurkers..oh god i hope they are..
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 24 2010 09:44 GMT
#439
On April 24 2010 18:41 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 18:40 SuperArc wrote:
On April 24 2010 18:39 APurpleCow wrote:
On April 24 2010 18:37 SuperArc wrote:
On April 24 2010 18:36 APurpleCow wrote:
On April 24 2010 18:35 okum wrote:
12 hatch again.

I guess if you do it sufficiently often, opponents won't be able to guess it because it doesn't make any sense.


........

12 hatch is a pretty safe opening vs Terran.

3 hatch before pool isn't.


lol no.

12hatch is very very hard to defend against 8rax if the terran knows what he's doing.


12 hatch is used in almost every game. What the hell are you talking about?


Yeah and every game terran counters with rax expand and guess who's winning more games lately?

8rax/rax expand > 12 hatch.


I think you should play more BW. Because trust me, 12hat is the best thing you can actually do. And that is terrible statistics. Did you ever think that the mu might be slightly imba in favour of Terran, or just that Zergs are sucking in comparison to terrans recently?


I like the three hatch before pool opening way more than 12hatch.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 24 2010 09:44 GMT
#440
Calm has a bunch of lurkers in the center of the map along the push direction. Stop lurkers maybe?

+1 ranged upgrade done for Calm, too. And he's getting his hive.
. . . nevermore
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