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[SPL] Hite SPARKYZ vs Hwaseung OZ - Page 22

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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
April 24 2010 06:40 GMT
#421
GG

One side domination from start till the end.
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2605 Posts
April 24 2010 06:40 GMT
#422
bio-mech counter already?
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
wongi
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia86 Posts
April 24 2010 06:41 GMT
#423
jd's win streak vs hite continues
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
April 24 2010 06:41 GMT
#424
On April 24 2010 15:40 Kyuukyuu wrote:
lol Leta like 0-8 vs JD now? naise

0-6
brood war for life, brood war forever
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 06:44:47
April 24 2010 06:41 GMT
#425
On April 24 2010 15:40 chongu wrote:
bio-mech counter already?


Leta let it get spotted.

Leta losing to such a build is not surprising at all considering the quality of his game sense in TvP and TvZ. Its why he'll never hang with the best terrans.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 24 2010 06:41 GMT
#426
OZ COACH!!

JD as Ace-->Oz wins, Killer as Ace-->Oz loses. Notice something?

You can't sacrifice games if you are outside the top6...

No PL playoffs = no use for Killer
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
April 24 2010 06:42 GMT
#427
On April 24 2010 15:40 chongu wrote:
bio-mech counter already?

it got countered because it got scouted
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
April 24 2010 06:42 GMT
#428
woot im happy go jaedong
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
April 24 2010 06:43 GMT
#429
On April 24 2010 15:40 chongu wrote:
bio-mech counter already?

I'm pretty sure the lurker break-->lift decided the game, and that Leta's build can deal with 3 hatch lurker if he's spotting correctly with vultures.
My strategy is to fork people.
cognizantfire
Profile Joined March 2010
Hong Kong77 Posts
April 24 2010 06:45 GMT
#430
Heck yeah Jaedong!
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
April 24 2010 06:45 GMT
#431
There is no logical reason why Jaedong rapes Hite so hard. It spits in the face of everything even resembling logic
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Cadical *
Profile Joined September 2005
United States469 Posts
April 24 2010 06:46 GMT
#432
On April 24 2010 15:40 Kyuukyuu wrote:
lol Leta like 0-8 vs JD now? naise


Yup, 0-8 including unofficial matches (prelims).
0-6 counting official matches
IMBA
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
April 24 2010 06:48 GMT
#433
On April 24 2010 15:45 n.DieJokes wrote:
There is no logical reason why Jaedong rapes Hite so hard. It spits in the face of everything even resembling logic


Yes there is. Hite has no good ZvZers (Yarnc is their best ZvZer), has some of the worst protoss players, and have pretty generic terrans that get outclassed by good players easily. Leta is good but that's all he is: just good...not great or amazing but just good.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 24 2010 06:51 GMT
#434
On April 24 2010 15:48 Kwanroller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 15:45 n.DieJokes wrote:
There is no logical reason why Jaedong rapes Hite so hard. It spits in the face of everything even resembling logic


Yes there is. Hite has no good ZvZers (Yarnc is their best ZvZer), has some of the worst protoss players, and have pretty generic terrans that get outclassed by good players easily. Leta is good but that's all he is: just good...not great or amazing but just good.

Indeed. Leta only looks strong when he plays average or mediocre opponents, his unusual builds and his control really shine in those situations.

Against top players, though...an entirely different story.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
April 24 2010 06:58 GMT
#435
nice jd!
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
April 24 2010 06:59 GMT
#436
On April 24 2010 15:48 Kwanroller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 15:45 n.DieJokes wrote:
There is no logical reason why Jaedong rapes Hite so hard. It spits in the face of everything even resembling logic


Yes there is. Hite has no good ZvZers (Yarnc is their best ZvZer), has some of the worst protoss players, and have pretty generic terrans that get outclassed by good players easily. Leta is good but that's all he is: just good...not great or amazing but just good.

Yarnc has good ZvZ as does type-B, having rarely played protoss players works against his streak because he's absurdly dominant in the mu. Go through the opponents he's lost against, it's like a list of mediocre Terrans. AND even if everything you said was true and relevant it still doesn't explain why it's Hite; why not estro they fit all the same parameters. Why not ACE, all their players are over the hill. Why not CJ, they have mediocre players coming out the whazoo.
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
April 24 2010 07:01 GMT
#437
leta double facepalmed
always tired -_-
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
April 24 2010 07:05 GMT
#438
Hopefully this means JD has been working on his ZvT. Leta is a good TvZer.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
April 24 2010 07:08 GMT
#439
You win again Oz!

Sparkyz will win next time... Hopefully.
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 10:56:52
April 24 2010 07:09 GMT
#440
On April 24 2010 15:59 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 15:48 Kwanroller wrote:
On April 24 2010 15:45 n.DieJokes wrote:
There is no logical reason why Jaedong rapes Hite so hard. It spits in the face of everything even resembling logic


Yes there is. Hite has no good ZvZers (Yarnc is their best ZvZer), has some of the worst protoss players, and have pretty generic terrans that get outclassed by good players easily. Leta is good but that's all he is: just good...not great or amazing but just good.

Yarnc has good ZvZ as does type-B, having rarely played protoss players works against his streak because he's absurdly dominant in the mu. Go through the opponents he's lost against, it's like a list of mediocre Terrans. AND even if everything you said was true and relevant it still doesn't explain why it's Hite; why not estro they fit all the same parameters. Why not ACE, all their players are over the hill. Why not CJ, they have mediocre players coming out the whazoo.


Yarnc and Type-B have good ZvZ? Are you serious? Those two are mediocre at best. You must be thinking of Luxury but he's gone off to KT.

And the terrans he has lost to are not mediocre at TvZ. Light and Ruby are some of the top TvZers and Baby is playing extremely well. Darkelf is kind of mediocre but he had a sick mech into bio switch.

We're talking about recent games here not in the past. CJ doesn't fit the parameters because they're always been good at sniping (read: cheese) and Effort used to be a beast. eStro basically does fit the parameters (Upmagic is literally 1-6 vs Jaedong) but Hyvaa is at least good enough to know exactly what he's doing and abuse the nature of ZvZ even if his mechanics are bad. ACE right now doesn't fit the parameters because Ruby still has some of the best TvZ in the proscene right now - Ruby is the sole reason why they keep winning against Oz since his TvZ is so good.

Everyone knows how bad Leta's game sense is. Anyone can grab a few games where he has lost due to bad scouting or just assuming things (against Hyvaa's 6/7 pool, against Luxury's fake hydralisk den, etc). Its partly the reason why everyone just assumed he cheated against Forgg since Leta isn't known for being that smart.
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