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[SPL] Air Force ACE vs Hwaseung OZ - Page 21

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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
April 19 2010 14:04 GMT
#401
=_=
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
April 19 2010 14:39 GMT
#402
On April 19 2010 22:20 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 21:52 SubtleArt wrote:
On April 19 2010 21:49 Ryo wrote:
On April 19 2010 21:36 SubtleArt wrote:
On April 19 2010 20:31 Zona wrote:
Ruby with 60% vs Z and 30% vs T and P...


Typical Terran. I used to get pissed at PvT only Protosses but in this day and age TvZ Terrans seem worse


A typical Terran isn't 30% vs T, think about it logically. Ruby's TvT is really sub-par, Oz shld have sent Hiya, even if he's been practicing only for MSL.


by typical terran I meant really good in TvZ and then a resounding meh or worse in other matchups. Given recent trends these terrans are becoming even more abudant. Take light for example. Top notch TvZ and getting raped by Perfectfail in a BO3


Of course each race has it's strongest matchup and TvZ has always stood out.

But my point was that most Terrans are about even (46-55%) against other Terrans but Ruby is very weak in that matchup, hence putting Hiya in wld have been better.

Light just plain choked against PerfectMan after all the hype during WL about him possibly challenging Flash. His 46% TvP isn't good but not epic fail. He shld have beaten PM.


I dunno, I'd argue his TvP is fail. The only time it looked good was that series vs SKT where he beat Best and Bisu. Ever since then even in proleague protoss have been owning him. In his MSL group vs Pure and some1 else, for example, he was so unconfident in TvP he went medic marine cheese twice...and failed
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 19 2010 15:20 GMT
#403
"wait, why did Ruby get so many points? fuck my anti-team, first Bisu and now Ruby! who did he beat i wonder?"

*checks TLPD*

"ahahahahahahahahaha"
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
April 19 2010 15:23 GMT
#404
Jaedongs ZvT is... sigh.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 19 2010 15:24 GMT
#405
YES ACE!!!!!!!
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
April 19 2010 15:38 GMT
#406
fuck yeah i lbed correctly
┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
April 19 2010 16:08 GMT
#407
wtf is this shit.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 19 2010 16:11 GMT
#408
On April 19 2010 22:58 flamewheel91 wrote:
Lol ACE wins again over OZ?
Oh man Jaedong OZ...


Why do you call it JD Oz when Oz still managed to bring the game to ace without JD?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
April 19 2010 16:20 GMT
#409
What happened to your ZvT Jaedong...?
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
April 19 2010 16:30 GMT
#410
On April 20 2010 01:20 Gumbo wrote:
What happened to your ZvT Jaedong...?

Shitty maps and flash happened
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
April 19 2010 16:35 GMT
#411
ace
Least favorite progamers: Leta, Zero, Mind, Shine, free, really <-- newly added
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
April 19 2010 16:41 GMT
#412
On April 20 2010 01:11 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 22:58 flamewheel91 wrote:
Lol ACE wins again over OZ?
Oh man Jaedong OZ...


Why do you call it JD Oz when Oz still managed to bring the game to ace without JD?

Cause they still rely heavily on jaedong to win. Its not like khan needs stork to get to ace, but people think of stork when they think of khan because hes the one behind most of khan's victory. One match doesn't mean much.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 19 2010 17:00 GMT
#413
On April 20 2010 01:41 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2010 01:11 SuperArc wrote:
On April 19 2010 22:58 flamewheel91 wrote:
Lol ACE wins again over OZ?
Oh man Jaedong OZ...


Why do you call it JD Oz when Oz still managed to bring the game to ace without JD?

Cause they still rely heavily on jaedong to win. Its not like khan needs stork to get to ace, but people think of stork when they think of khan because hes the one behind most of khan's victory. One match doesn't mean much.


Hiya only has six wins less than Jaedong, Oz rely on Hiya as much as on Jaedong. So call it Hiyadong Oz or nothing at all.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
April 19 2010 17:11 GMT
#414
YEAA~~~HH ACE!!!

Woke up and see that Ruby killed Jaedong & Killer? BALLER.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
April 19 2010 17:19 GMT
#415
Nice Ruby

And lol all who cries about JD is in a slump. His 20 last games is 14-6.
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
April 19 2010 17:34 GMT
#416
On April 20 2010 02:19 Necosarius wrote:
Nice Ruby

And lol all who cries about JD is in a slump. His 20 last games is 14-6.


For JD, that is a relative slump, considering what he is capable of.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
April 19 2010 17:37 GMT
#417
On April 20 2010 02:34 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2010 02:19 Necosarius wrote:
Nice Ruby

And lol all who cries about JD is in a slump. His 20 last games is 14-6.


For JD, that is a relative slump, considering what he is capable of.


His all time record is 68.4% winrate. 14-6 is 70% winrate. Is he always slumping?
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
April 19 2010 17:51 GMT
#418
Did you watch the game?
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
April 19 2010 18:09 GMT
#419
On April 20 2010 02:19 Necosarius wrote:
Nice Ruby

And lol all who cries about JD is in a slump. His 20 last games is 14-6.


But his last 20 ZvTs are 9-11 (pretty much 2010), which is 45% winrate, compared to his lifetime 61%, so yes it's a slump. But it will go away later in the year for sure.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
April 19 2010 18:23 GMT
#420
Jaedong is raping again in ZvZ that's why his stats are high. But his ZvT is lacking. 0:3 against baby with loses to Darkelf (!) and now Ruby...

This is rather disapointing performance for a monster that Jaedong is.
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