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[SPL] Air Force ACE vs Hwaseung OZ - Page 20

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jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
April 19 2010 12:01 GMT
#381
wow i really didn't expect ACE to win against hwaseung. seems like Ruby, who already played outstanding last season, is the new corner stone of ACE. actually i'm a bit surprised about that because when he played for mbc (am i correct on that?!) before he went to ACE, he was medicore at best...

nice nice nice. ace fighting!
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66285 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 12:04:25
April 19 2010 12:03 GMT
#382
yes he was on MBC

can never forget that game vs tempset on medusa lol

edit:


VOD if u are interested
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 19 2010 12:08 GMT
#383
LOL
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 19 2010 12:19 GMT
#384
ROFL, that game was so epic! :D
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 12:35:37
April 19 2010 12:27 GMT
#385
On April 19 2010 21:01 jhNz wrote:
actually i'm a bit surprised about that because when he played for mbc (am i correct on that?!) before he went to ACE, he was medicore at best...

nice nice nice. ace fighting!


When you've got Sea and Light on the same team as you, it's hard to get enough games to improve, esp given the proleague race rules back then. He wasn't mediocre though, he still managed to consistently qualify for MSL.

I still can't understand why they wld send a zerg against Ruby when he's 65% against z and just tore JD up. Unless Coach Cho wasn't expecting Ruby? But that's just plain dumb.

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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 12:31:25
April 19 2010 12:30 GMT
#386
Yeah I feel this is appropriate.

It's not exactly accurate since it was made for winner's league, but you get the idea

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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
April 19 2010 12:34 GMT
#387
On April 19 2010 20:25 Kwanroller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 20:24 Zona wrote:
Despite the supporting cast scoring a win, JD Oz can't bring it home.


No longer Jaedong Oz. Its really Hiya doing all the grunt work these days lol.


Na, Jaedong's still getting more wins. It just doesn't feel like that cause we're used to seeing him win every game and Hiya win just once in a while. Times are tough if ur a zerg nowadays I guess
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 12:36:43
April 19 2010 12:35 GMT
#388
On April 19 2010 21:01 jhNz wrote:
wow i really didn't expect ACE to win against hwaseung. seems like Ruby, who already played outstanding last season, is the new corner stone of ACE. actually i'm a bit surprised about that because when he played for mbc (am i correct on that?!) before he went to ACE, he was medicore at best...

nice nice nice. ace fighting!

He always had good tvz even in mbc. He got overshadowed with sea and light but in tvz he was making a bit of a name for himself. Actually there was even a moment where it seemed he picked up his vs t and p but only for a small moment. Then after losing to by.hero it seemed his confidence vs zerg fell apart. It is surprising though how after moving to ace not only is he playing well he seems to be playing on the same level vs z wise when he was back in mbc maybe i can even say better.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
April 19 2010 12:36 GMT
#389
On April 19 2010 20:31 Zona wrote:
Ruby with 60% vs Z and 30% vs T and P...


Typical Terran. I used to get pissed at PvT only Protosses but in this day and age TvZ Terrans seem worse
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
April 19 2010 12:40 GMT
#390
On April 19 2010 20:29 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 20:26 SubtleArt wrote:
Why the fuck send KILLER to Ace when you know their only viable ace player is A FUCKING 60%+ TERRAN!! Jaedong had a better chance. Seriously what's Oz thinking? "They know we think they'll send ruby so we'll send a protoss so they'll send a zerg so we send killer for ZvZ". Too bad oz protosses embody the term mediocre


Usually I would agree, but JD didn't seem to be in the best state mentally....


A clinically depressed Jaedong would have a better chance to win than Killer ZvTing on Battle Royal
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 12:49:50
April 19 2010 12:49 GMT
#391
On April 19 2010 21:36 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 20:31 Zona wrote:
Ruby with 60% vs Z and 30% vs T and P...


Typical Terran. I used to get pissed at PvT only Protosses but in this day and age TvZ Terrans seem worse


A typical Terran isn't 30% vs T, think about it logically. Ruby's TvT is really sub-par, Oz shld have sent Hiya, even if he's been practicing only for MSL.
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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
April 19 2010 12:52 GMT
#392
On April 19 2010 21:49 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 21:36 SubtleArt wrote:
On April 19 2010 20:31 Zona wrote:
Ruby with 60% vs Z and 30% vs T and P...


Typical Terran. I used to get pissed at PvT only Protosses but in this day and age TvZ Terrans seem worse


A typical Terran isn't 30% vs T, think about it logically. Ruby's TvT is really sub-par, Oz shld have sent Hiya, even if he's been practicing only for MSL.


by typical terran I meant really good in TvZ and then a resounding meh or worse in other matchups. Given recent trends these terrans are becoming even more abudant. Take light for example. Top notch TvZ and getting raped by Perfectfail in a BO3
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
April 19 2010 13:13 GMT
#393
Woah I wake up and I see this. Dang... Jaedong.... I can't wait to read the interview lol
always tired -_-
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
April 19 2010 13:13 GMT
#394
Hahaha, Ruby! Why you so sexy! ACE HWAITING!
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 13:22:12
April 19 2010 13:20 GMT
#395
On April 19 2010 21:52 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 21:49 Ryo wrote:
On April 19 2010 21:36 SubtleArt wrote:
On April 19 2010 20:31 Zona wrote:
Ruby with 60% vs Z and 30% vs T and P...


Typical Terran. I used to get pissed at PvT only Protosses but in this day and age TvZ Terrans seem worse


A typical Terran isn't 30% vs T, think about it logically. Ruby's TvT is really sub-par, Oz shld have sent Hiya, even if he's been practicing only for MSL.


by typical terran I meant really good in TvZ and then a resounding meh or worse in other matchups. Given recent trends these terrans are becoming even more abudant. Take light for example. Top notch TvZ and getting raped by Perfectfail in a BO3


Of course each race has it's strongest matchup and TvZ has always stood out.

But my point was that most Terrans are about even (46-55%) against other Terrans but Ruby is very weak in that matchup, hence putting Hiya in wld have been better.

Light just plain choked against PerfectMan after all the hype during WL about him possibly challenging Flash. His 46% TvP isn't good but not epic fail. He shld have beaten PM.
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
April 19 2010 13:31 GMT
#396
Ruby was fairly strong even back when on MBC. The problem is that MBC was too Terran loaded. They already had Sea and Light. On a different team Ruby might have had more play time.

As it was, he showed really strong TvZ pretty much throughout his career. Regarding TvP and TvT, his career hasn't been good on the whole, but if you go back and check out his play, he's had his moments.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
xxxxxxb
Profile Joined October 2009
155 Posts
April 19 2010 13:32 GMT
#397
On April 19 2010 19:18 Aim Here wrote:
(Z)Jaedong's main rivalry is now with (T)Flash (T)BaBy (T)RuBy (T)ToSsGirL (Wiki)Zim


http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/ladder/1x1/azerbaijan.html

You are now aware that there is a 70% TvZ azerbaijani acc named zim on iccup. Beware, jaedong.
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
April 19 2010 13:37 GMT
#398
I thought it will be 1 sided match and skipped it ToT . My mistake ...
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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
April 19 2010 13:44 GMT
#399
...Wonderful. And I had just traded *for* Perfectman on FPL. FAIL.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 19 2010 13:58 GMT
#400
Lol ACE wins again over OZ?
Oh man Jaedong OZ...
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