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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
April 13 2010 15:19 GMT
#801
Forgg as Ace, really?
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 13 2010 16:13 GMT
#802
On April 14 2010 00:10 ndralcasid wrote:
I love how these same KT fans also bitch about Flash having to carry the team.

Kt actually can afford to experiment with other Ace choices right now. Sending ForGG for Ace is fine. If anything, bitch about them always sending Hoejja on Judgment Day, or not using Stats or Violet for at least one match.


That's my gripe. No Violet or Stats... WTF MAN
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
April 13 2010 16:36 GMT
#803
where's violet???
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
April 13 2010 16:38 GMT
#804
On April 13 2010 21:27 HopLight wrote:
Why on earth do KT insist on sending ForGG out as Ace. All opponents know that Flash is by far the most likely so they all practice sniping Terran, if you then send out ForGG its like feeding the sniper with a nice friendly little lamb. Hell even Hoejja would have been a better choice if they want to mix it up, at least he has good ZvP. And to do this against the one team they really need to beat? I'm thoroughly disgusted!


Sounds a lot like Oz sending out Killer when people pratice for JD.

The difference is that Forgg is actually good.

If KT wants to test this shit out, now is the time... tho it's clear what kind of team they are without flash playing twice.
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
April 13 2010 16:44 GMT
#805
Shuttle ^_^
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 13 2010 17:12 GMT
#806
On April 13 2010 21:57 lavion wrote:
How can you not play Flash for Ace -_-


Ace match was on Grand Line, I don't think Flash has practiced much on the new map since he's busy practicing for OSL.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
April 13 2010 17:51 GMT
#807
On April 14 2010 01:36 amazingoopah wrote:
where's violet???
In the shitter since he is awful right now
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
April 13 2010 18:25 GMT
#808
I had a dream that July played and lost the Ace match to Flash, and everyone was really sad.

Much to my relief, that didn't happen, as KTFlash sent out the one-matchup-wonder ForGG (whom I have clearly overvalued) instead of that one guy who's really good and wins things. Shuttle delivers! Aaand it looks like Kal is still trapped in his A-class box, unable to beat another Boss.

KT, instead of playing ForGG, Stats, Flash, and Violet and crossing their fingers every match, played two zergs and (P)Tempest. *shrugs* What could possibly go wrong?
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AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
April 13 2010 18:38 GMT
#809
So i log on today and look at the match. FORGG AS ACE DOESN"TMAKE SENSEEE
always tired -_-
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
April 13 2010 19:07 GMT
#810
On April 14 2010 00:19 LunarDestiny wrote:
Forgg as Ace, really?


srsly man, someone was smoking something that day
Ducci
Profile Joined April 2009
United States588 Posts
April 13 2010 19:25 GMT
#811
Shuttles picking up steam
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
April 13 2010 19:38 GMT
#812
well.. this was unexpected

anyone know why Flash wasnt ace?
OH YEAH KT COACHING IS HORRIBLE
cw)minsean(ru
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
April 13 2010 19:40 GMT
#813
IMO Flash without practice is still better than Forgg with practice.

COACHES. Stop trying to prove that you guys did anything well. All you're doing is proving over and over and over again that you did NOTHING and FLASH was the ONLY reason for the WL win. Just give him the team earnings and beg Flash for money. ACKNOWLEDGE that Flash is the only thing keeping KT afloat, and that he is the only reason you guys are still on the payroll.

Sigh. KT. Breaks my heart.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Jaester88
Profile Joined September 2009
United States143 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 20:41:11
April 13 2010 20:35 GMT
#814
If Flash were to play on the Ace match, then he would have had to practice on Polaris Rhapsody and Grand Line, both two brand new maps. This on top of a absolutely crucial TvP he has to play the next day against Kal for the OSL. I'm sad KT lost, but I like the fact that they respected Flash's practice schedule so that he could prepare a bit more for the OSL. (I suppose this is also 100% applies to STX's ace choices as well.)

On a side note, I think that's why both Flash and Kal ended up playing on Polaris Rhapsody, because I think that's where both coaches figured they would have the least chances of running into each other. If that's true, interesting how that ended up.
JimboSilvers
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom167 Posts
April 13 2010 21:19 GMT
#815
Naw not sending Flash for ace is fine. but ya as the others said where were Stats and maybe violet? It makes me really wonder what happened to stats. He was doing super good previously but now is losing playtime to Hoejja Tempest and Firefist. What gives.
Triple7
Profile Joined April 2009
United States656 Posts
April 13 2010 21:25 GMT
#816
Lol, so much for my Fantasy team strategy of getting 1 point KTR players and trading them later. JUST SEND FLASH!
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snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 21:31:32
April 13 2010 21:26 GMT
#817
Another thing about Flash not playing the ace game: it's not only because KT is pretty much guaranteed to reach the playoffs, as other posters have already explained, but also because, more importantly, the playoffs aren't an end in themselves. If KT wants to have a chance at actually beating teams like STX or Stars and winning the Grand Final, they have to develop and improve their roster. The playoffs and finals don't use the Winners League format, so Flash alone won't be able to carry the team.
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7816 Posts
April 13 2010 21:48 GMT
#818
People are too quick to jump on the "omg its KTFlash again!" bandwagon. Half of R3 and first two matches of R4... ok. I really feel like ForGG is coming back into form also. Strong TvZ, decent TvT, and when he practices, a strong TvP. Transitioning out of 2 fact port is pretty difficult... and he still almost won the game...
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 13 2010 21:59 GMT
#819
On April 14 2010 06:48 Vasoline73 wrote:
People are too quick to jump on the "omg its KTFlash again!" bandwagon. Half of R3 and first two matches of R4... ok. I really feel like ForGG is coming back into form also. Strong TvZ, decent TvT, and when he practices, a strong TvP. Transitioning out of 2 fact port is pretty difficult... and he still almost won the game...


or maybe you were too quick to jump on the "omg KT actually has good players" bandwagon?

forgg is getting better yes, in return Violet and Stats get worse
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 22:06:16
April 13 2010 22:05 GMT
#820
I perfectly understand why Forgg was sent as ace besides .

1) Lets consider what KT thought were STX's ace choices: 45% Kal, 45% Calm, maybe 10% Shuttle. All 3 own tosses like their bitch and Stats/Violet has really mediocre PvZ and PvP as of now if you look at records or watch games.

2)Now lets consider FireFist and Hojjea. FireFist could not beat Effort in ZvZ twice in a row with a BO advantage. Now you want him to take out Kal's PvZ scrubs or Calm who won a starleague with ZvZ? Plus he blows. Then there is Hojjea. When was the last time he won a game? His recent losses has been at the hands of Calm and Shuttle. Dude lost to Nada for god sakes. Almost as bad as when Killer lost to Boxer.

3) Now obviously Kt wanted to train the rest of the roster so Flash is off limits, so the only other player who is doing well and has a chance is Forgg. Calm is sucking at ZvT but somehow only brings A-game vs. Flash. Kal just lost to Flash, so STX probably will not send him thinking Flash is coming for ace. And Forgg's style is much different from Flash in that he relies 90% on timing pushes, so the sniper will most likely have not prepared for that.

So in summary besides Flash, anyone else would have been a retarded choice to take on STX ace choices.
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