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Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 09 2010 11:38 GMT
#361
Shine takes natural and gets lair.
this is my quote.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 09 2010 11:39 GMT
#362
Shine sending in lings gets chased away by Effort's lings.
this is my quote.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 09 2010 11:39 GMT
#363
On April 09 2010 20:32 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 20:02 darktreb wrote:
On April 09 2010 19:48 Holgerius wrote:
It makes me sick to see people compare Movie to Bisu and calling him the next big Protoss. =/ I do not see any potential for that in his play.


That's pretty harsh. His play is definitely sloppy but to say you don't see "any potential" for him to be the next big Protoss means you're basically going out of your way not to.

He's clearly got the modern solid mechanics as well as occasionally brilliant micro. He's demonstrated an ability to play PvZ in a way and on a level that very few if any other Protoss players can at the moment (his impressive 2-0 of Zero who was coming off an insane ZvP streak at the time during the last OSL is grossly underrated). He's demonstrated that he can perform under pressure (not every time, but he's not a guaranteed choker either) with games like his PL playoffs ace match against Leta last summer and him making the OSL finals as well as getting into both ro16's this year. He's also shown that he can come up with crafty builds, such as what he showed in games 1 and 2 in the OSL finals where he was way ahead in builds both times but couldn't put it together (and was facing the best player in the world). He would have won that OSL against another Terran, maybe even 3-0.

He's also demonstrated that he can sometimes play absolutely terribly, and he sometimes makes absolutely inexcusable mistakes that are painful to watch.

But to say he has "no potential" to be the next big P? Movie's like practically the definition of unrefined potential.

I do not think he's showing solid mechanics at all. In fact I have several times noticed that his multitasking is extremely poor. His micro is good on a small scale, but when it comes to huge army control he is severly outclassed by plenty of other Tosses. I do not agree that he would've won the OSL finals vs any other T than Flash; his PvT is absolutely horrible and insanely gimmicky. I can agree that his PvZ is pretty good, but other than that he's mediocre at best. Comparing him to Bisu is retarded.


So a mediocre player has 100% win rate vs Stats and Stork? God those two must suck.

And his BOs were good enough to crush any other T than Flash 3-0.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 09 2010 11:39 GMT
#364
Shine getting spire. Effort's lair still building. Har.
this is my quote.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 09 2010 11:40 GMT
#365
Hark! Effort with noticeably later spire. Shine has a sunken at nat. Effort sending in a lot of lings...nevermind backs off.
this is my quote.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 09 2010 11:41 GMT
#366
Shine takes natural gas. Effort has more lings. Shine sends scourge to pick off mutas.
this is my quote.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 09 2010 11:42 GMT
#367
Shine's muta takes down overlord at at 6. Gets hit by scourge. Effort loses muta to scourge the moment it hatches.
this is my quote.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 09 2010 11:43 GMT
#368
Effort has one drone at natural gas...odd. Oh wait nevermind.
this is my quote.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 09 2010 11:43 GMT
#369
Shine seems ahead but only slightly.
this is my quote.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 09 2010 11:43 GMT
#370
On April 09 2010 20:39 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 20:32 Holgerius wrote:
On April 09 2010 20:02 darktreb wrote:
On April 09 2010 19:48 Holgerius wrote:
It makes me sick to see people compare Movie to Bisu and calling him the next big Protoss. =/ I do not see any potential for that in his play.


That's pretty harsh. His play is definitely sloppy but to say you don't see "any potential" for him to be the next big Protoss means you're basically going out of your way not to.

He's clearly got the modern solid mechanics as well as occasionally brilliant micro. He's demonstrated an ability to play PvZ in a way and on a level that very few if any other Protoss players can at the moment (his impressive 2-0 of Zero who was coming off an insane ZvP streak at the time during the last OSL is grossly underrated). He's demonstrated that he can perform under pressure (not every time, but he's not a guaranteed choker either) with games like his PL playoffs ace match against Leta last summer and him making the OSL finals as well as getting into both ro16's this year. He's also shown that he can come up with crafty builds, such as what he showed in games 1 and 2 in the OSL finals where he was way ahead in builds both times but couldn't put it together (and was facing the best player in the world). He would have won that OSL against another Terran, maybe even 3-0.

He's also demonstrated that he can sometimes play absolutely terribly, and he sometimes makes absolutely inexcusable mistakes that are painful to watch.

But to say he has "no potential" to be the next big P? Movie's like practically the definition of unrefined potential.

I do not think he's showing solid mechanics at all. In fact I have several times noticed that his multitasking is extremely poor. His micro is good on a small scale, but when it comes to huge army control he is severly outclassed by plenty of other Tosses. I do not agree that he would've won the OSL finals vs any other T than Flash; his PvT is absolutely horrible and insanely gimmicky. I can agree that his PvZ is pretty good, but other than that he's mediocre at best. Comparing him to Bisu is retarded.


So a mediocre player has 100% win rate vs Stats and Stork? God those two must suck.

And his BOs were good enough to crush any other T than Flash 3-0.

Dude, M18M has a 100% winrate vs Flash. So what? Really bad argument there yo.

I feel extremely confident that any solid TvP'er would've crushed Movie.

At roughly the same point in his career as Movie is in now, Bisu had 2 Starleague wins under his belt and had crushed the current bonjwa 3-0.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 09 2010 11:44 GMT
#371
Shine heading towards Effort's base!
this is my quote.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 09 2010 11:44 GMT
#372
Air fight! Few casualties from both sides.
this is my quote.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
April 09 2010 11:44 GMT
#373
that's a lot of scourges
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 09 2010 11:44 GMT
#374
Both sides backing off. Effort sends lings air battle!
this is my quote.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 09 2010 11:45 GMT
#375
Effort wins ling battle! Lings in Shine's main! Shine holds! Loses sunken and natural!
this is my quote.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 09 2010 11:45 GMT
#376
On April 09 2010 20:43 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 20:39 SuperArc wrote:
On April 09 2010 20:32 Holgerius wrote:
On April 09 2010 20:02 darktreb wrote:
On April 09 2010 19:48 Holgerius wrote:
It makes me sick to see people compare Movie to Bisu and calling him the next big Protoss. =/ I do not see any potential for that in his play.


That's pretty harsh. His play is definitely sloppy but to say you don't see "any potential" for him to be the next big Protoss means you're basically going out of your way not to.

He's clearly got the modern solid mechanics as well as occasionally brilliant micro. He's demonstrated an ability to play PvZ in a way and on a level that very few if any other Protoss players can at the moment (his impressive 2-0 of Zero who was coming off an insane ZvP streak at the time during the last OSL is grossly underrated). He's demonstrated that he can perform under pressure (not every time, but he's not a guaranteed choker either) with games like his PL playoffs ace match against Leta last summer and him making the OSL finals as well as getting into both ro16's this year. He's also shown that he can come up with crafty builds, such as what he showed in games 1 and 2 in the OSL finals where he was way ahead in builds both times but couldn't put it together (and was facing the best player in the world). He would have won that OSL against another Terran, maybe even 3-0.

He's also demonstrated that he can sometimes play absolutely terribly, and he sometimes makes absolutely inexcusable mistakes that are painful to watch.

But to say he has "no potential" to be the next big P? Movie's like practically the definition of unrefined potential.

I do not think he's showing solid mechanics at all. In fact I have several times noticed that his multitasking is extremely poor. His micro is good on a small scale, but when it comes to huge army control he is severly outclassed by plenty of other Tosses. I do not agree that he would've won the OSL finals vs any other T than Flash; his PvT is absolutely horrible and insanely gimmicky. I can agree that his PvZ is pretty good, but other than that he's mediocre at best. Comparing him to Bisu is retarded.


So a mediocre player has 100% win rate vs Stats and Stork? God those two must suck.

And his BOs were good enough to crush any other T than Flash 3-0.

Dude, M18M has a 100% winrate vs Flash. So what? Really bad argument there yo.

I feel extremely confident that any solid TvP'er would've crushed Movie.

At roughly the same point in his career as Movie is in now, Bisu had 2 Starleague wins under his belt and had crushed the current bonjwa 3-0.


M18M only played one game vs Flash.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 09 2010 11:45 GMT
#377
go effort, go!
BW is back
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 09 2010 11:47 GMT
#378
Effort pulling ahead now. Effort harasses at natural! Engaging with Scourge! Both back off! Can't tell whos ahead. Effort loses a drone to zerglings at nat~
this is my quote.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
April 09 2010 11:47 GMT
#379
On April 09 2010 20:45 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 20:43 Holgerius wrote:
On April 09 2010 20:39 SuperArc wrote:
On April 09 2010 20:32 Holgerius wrote:
On April 09 2010 20:02 darktreb wrote:
On April 09 2010 19:48 Holgerius wrote:
It makes me sick to see people compare Movie to Bisu and calling him the next big Protoss. =/ I do not see any potential for that in his play.


That's pretty harsh. His play is definitely sloppy but to say you don't see "any potential" for him to be the next big Protoss means you're basically going out of your way not to.

He's clearly got the modern solid mechanics as well as occasionally brilliant micro. He's demonstrated an ability to play PvZ in a way and on a level that very few if any other Protoss players can at the moment (his impressive 2-0 of Zero who was coming off an insane ZvP streak at the time during the last OSL is grossly underrated). He's demonstrated that he can perform under pressure (not every time, but he's not a guaranteed choker either) with games like his PL playoffs ace match against Leta last summer and him making the OSL finals as well as getting into both ro16's this year. He's also shown that he can come up with crafty builds, such as what he showed in games 1 and 2 in the OSL finals where he was way ahead in builds both times but couldn't put it together (and was facing the best player in the world). He would have won that OSL against another Terran, maybe even 3-0.

He's also demonstrated that he can sometimes play absolutely terribly, and he sometimes makes absolutely inexcusable mistakes that are painful to watch.

But to say he has "no potential" to be the next big P? Movie's like practically the definition of unrefined potential.

I do not think he's showing solid mechanics at all. In fact I have several times noticed that his multitasking is extremely poor. His micro is good on a small scale, but when it comes to huge army control he is severly outclassed by plenty of other Tosses. I do not agree that he would've won the OSL finals vs any other T than Flash; his PvT is absolutely horrible and insanely gimmicky. I can agree that his PvZ is pretty good, but other than that he's mediocre at best. Comparing him to Bisu is retarded.


So a mediocre player has 100% win rate vs Stats and Stork? God those two must suck.

And his BOs were good enough to crush any other T than Flash 3-0.

Dude, M18M has a 100% winrate vs Flash. So what? Really bad argument there yo.

I feel extremely confident that any solid TvP'er would've crushed Movie.

At roughly the same point in his career as Movie is in now, Bisu had 2 Starleague wins under his belt and had crushed the current bonjwa 3-0.


M18M only played one game vs Flash.


And Movie only played 2 games vs Stork.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 09 2010 11:47 GMT
#380
Hark! Effort not harvesting gas again! nevermind.
this is my quote.
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