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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 01 2010 08:44 GMT
#321
On April 01 2010 17:41 NurseArial wrote:
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On April 01 2010 17:40 LosingID8 wrote:
commentators were saying that before the match jaedong said he thought the map was decent for zerg


you seem to have forgotten that angry jaedong fanboys understand issues of map imbalance farr more than the dong himself


only if he loses. if he wins the map was bad for zerg but he was way too good to let it get to him.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
April 01 2010 08:44 GMT
#322
zvz, hyuk's only decent MU. either way baby is probably advancing 2-0
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 01 2010 08:44 GMT
#323
On April 01 2010 17:42 NurseArial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2010 17:40 samachking wrote:
On April 01 2010 17:38 NurseArial wrote:
On April 01 2010 17:37 Gumbo wrote:
On April 01 2010 17:35 NurseArial wrote:
On April 01 2010 17:34 sAAvior wrote:
Too many mediocre Terrans beating good Zergs recently...
Shitty maps are imo to blame.


BABY ISN'T MEDIOCRE

If he was mediocre he wouldn't be 3-0 against Jaedong recently and he wouldn't have beaten Stork in the OSL he's really good arghhhh


He's gonna crash and burn, like every mediocre players that beat some S-class (Shine).


oh god what

BaBy is nothing like Shine. Shine is a gimmicky all-in player, easy to figure out. BaBy has sick macro, good multitask, and is genuinely creative.

Perfect muta micro will get you wins for a while. Shine sucks now because he is a gimmick that has been figured out. BaBy is a good player, not a gimmick.


Actually if you paid any attention to Baby the past year and half all he has done was be a really bad gimmicky terran(except at TvT where he was decent). He was Leta 0.5. He only stepped up his play up this season with improved build orders and mechanics.


Right. And now he's stepped up his game and shown that he can win against great players straight up.

I wouldn't even describe Leta as mediocre. He might be a bit gimmicky, but he can beat the best straight-up consistently. I don't think BaBy is the next big thing or that he'll even be a SL champion, but calling him mediocre is just ridiculous when you see the caliber of wins he gets.

Nobody remembers GomTV (where baby shined first).
But yeah, he's been pretty cheesy since that.
Oh and baby for PR! :D
In the woods, there lurks..
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
April 01 2010 08:44 GMT
#324
Pardon me for asking but what is this enteritis you're talking about? That JD is suffering from?
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 01 2010 08:45 GMT
#325
cmon july!!
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
sAAvior
Profile Joined July 2007
Poland248 Posts
April 01 2010 08:45 GMT
#326
I was just sad that last 4 or so TvsZ were utter rapes in favour of T. I hope it's gonna turn around
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
April 01 2010 08:45 GMT
#327
On April 01 2010 17:41 Vasoline73 wrote:
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On April 01 2010 17:40 LosingID8 wrote:
commentators were saying that before the match jaedong said he thought the map was decent for zerg

This. People see one game on the map and are already talking about how it's shitty and imba. OK.

What? I said the map was imbalanced as soon as I saw it (when Konadora posted it). I said it would be imbalanced for the reason we saw it be imbalanced right here: five base Terran mech is unbeatable.

On April 01 2010 17:40 Wings wrote:
Guys. Please stop blaming maps. JD was the Tyrant who could even win ZvZ's when he had severe BO disadvantages; that's supposed to be IMPOSSIBLE. Flash wins regardless of what map he's on, people scream imba all the time.

SUMMARY.
+ Show Spoiler +
If you're the best, you don't lose to bad maps, you make the bad maps your bitch and use it as a freaking whip during your winner's interview, to explain how you really are the shit and your opponent is shit.



Flash didn't win on Battle Royal. He lost to Oversky.
My strategy is to fork people.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 01 2010 08:45 GMT
#328
July with quicker pool than Hyuk, later gas though. Hyuk expands.
God Bless
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4733 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-01 08:46:24
April 01 2010 08:45 GMT
#329
I believe JDs main fault was to go for the early hydra/lurk drop, which he couldn't execute, because wraiths don't like Overlords. By that time he had total map control, investing those minerals into mutatech instead of ground unit upgrades and drop, Baby could not have moved out until JD had like 5-6 bases running.

Calling Baby gimmicky is like a joke to me. His multitasking seems insane and he has good decision-making. To me he is clearly on his way to the top.

Well, next game now.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
NurseArial
Profile Joined March 2010
Belarus109 Posts
April 01 2010 08:45 GMT
#330
On April 01 2010 17:45 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2010 17:41 Vasoline73 wrote:
On April 01 2010 17:40 LosingID8 wrote:
commentators were saying that before the match jaedong said he thought the map was decent for zerg

This. People see one game on the map and are already talking about how it's shitty and imba. OK.

What? I said the map was imbalanced as soon as I saw it (when Konadora posted it). I said it would be imbalanced for the reason we saw it be imbalanced right here: five base Terran mech is unbeatable.

Show nested quote +
On April 01 2010 17:40 Wings wrote:
Guys. Please stop blaming maps. JD was the Tyrant who could even win ZvZ's when he had severe BO disadvantages; that's supposed to be IMPOSSIBLE. Flash wins regardless of what map he's on, people scream imba all the time.

SUMMARY.
+ Show Spoiler +
If you're the best, you don't lose to bad maps, you make the bad maps your bitch and use it as a freaking whip during your winner's interview, to explain how you really are the shit and your opponent is shit.



Flash didn't win on Battle Royal. He lost to Oversky.


Flash lost on Battle Royal?

God what a scrub, he's so overrated.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 01 2010 08:45 GMT
#331
July also expands as well. Oh, I'm pretty sure the map is Odd Eye.
God Bless
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
April 01 2010 08:46 GMT
#332
That was one of the worst zvt ive seen by JD map is extremly good for zerg every expo has gas and he could win if he just switched to muta after he did his big drop where baby had like 20 tanks 20 vults
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
NurseArial
Profile Joined March 2010
Belarus109 Posts
April 01 2010 08:46 GMT
#333
On April 01 2010 17:45 Malinor wrote:
I believe JDs main fault was to go for the early hydra/lurk drop, which he couldn't execute, because wraiths don't lie Overlords. By that time he had total map control, investing those minerals into mutatech instead of ground unit upgrades and drop, Baby could not have moved out until JD had like 5-6 bases running.

Calling Baby gimmicky seems like a joke to me. His multitasking seems insane and he has good decision-making. To me he is clearly on his way to the top.

Well, next game now.


well to be fair everyone said the same thing about leta

leta is good though, not mediocre, just not as great as people thought he would be
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
April 01 2010 08:46 GMT
#334
holy shit, jaedong lost again T_T
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 01 2010 08:46 GMT
#335
Hyuk pulling drones to hold off July's 6 initial zerglings. Zerglings pounding away on the hatchery. Drones and lings just going back and forth for Hyuk. Lair going up for July, no lair for Hyuk yet. July's expo also about to warp in.
God Bless
sAAvior
Profile Joined July 2007
Poland248 Posts
April 01 2010 08:46 GMT
#336
go July
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8520 Posts
April 01 2010 08:46 GMT
#337
now hyuk is ahead i think
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
April 01 2010 08:47 GMT
#338
hyuk pulls 5 drones to help fend off zerglings. doesnt lose a single unit so is going to be ahead with a faster expo. hyuk didnt get gas though, so his lair is alot slower
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 01 2010 08:47 GMT
#339
Hyuk with speed, July no speed. Hyuk warping in a lair now. Hyuk wins a ling fight. Lair done for July. Lings streaming into July's nat now.
God Bless
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 01 2010 08:47 GMT
#340
Speed done for July though. Lair not yet done for Hyuk. Spire already started for July. July forces lings to back off.
God Bless
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