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HANA BANK MSL RESULTS AND STANDINGS


The History

KPGA 1st Tour (2/14/02 - 4/14/02) - (T)BoxeR > (Z)YellOw
Reebok KPGA 2nd Tour (4/18/02 - 6/22/02) - (T)NaDa > (Z)YellOw
Pepsi Twist KPGA 3rd Tour (7/4/02 - 10/5/02) - (T)NaDa > (P)Reach
Baskin Robbins KPGA 4th Tour (10/25/02 - 1/18/03) - (T)NaDa > (Z)ChoJJa
Stout MSL (4/17/03 - 7/19/03) - (P)Nal_rA > (T)NaDa (Teamliquid Article)
TriGem MSL (9/4/03 - 11/6/03) - (T)iloveoov > (Z)YellOw (Teamliquid Article)
HanaFOS CENGAME MSL (1/8/04 - 4/18/04) - (T)iloveoov > (T)NaDa (Teamliquid Article)
SPRIS MSL (5/20/04 - 8/29/04) - (T)iloveoov > (P)Kingdom (Teamliquid Article)
You Are the Golf King MSL (9/30/04 - 2/6/05) - (Z)GoRush > (T)NaDa (Teamliquid Article)
UZOO MSL (4/21/05 - 8/6/05) - ????? > (P)Reach (Teamliquid Article)
LG CYON MSL (10/6/05 - 1/14/06) - (Z)ChoJJa > ????? (Teamliquid Article)
Pringles 1 MSL (4/6/06 - 7/16/06) - ????? > (P)Nal_rA (Teamliquid Article)
Pringles 2 MSL (8/17/06 - 11/11/06) - ????? > (Z)Silver (Teamliquid Article)
GomTV MSL (11/30/06 - 3/3/07) - (P)Bisu > ????? (Teamliquid Article)
GomTV2 MSL (5/3/07 - 7/14/07) - (P)Bisu > (P)Stork (Teamliquid Article)
GomTV3 MSL (9/13/07 - 11/17/07) - (T)Mind > (P)Bisu (Teamliquid Article)
GomTV4 MSL (1/3/08 - 3/8/08) - (Z)Jaedong > (P)Kal (Teamliquid Article)
Arena MSL (5/1/08 - 7/26/08) - (T)fOrGG > (Z)Jaedong (Teamliquid Article)
ClubDay Online MSL (9/18/08 - 11/16/08) - (P)Bisu > (P)JangBi (Teamliquid Article)
Lost Saga MSL (1/15/09 - 3/20/09) - ????? > (P)JangBi (Teamliquid Article)
Avalon MSL (7/11/09 - 8/30/09) - (Z)Calm > (Z)Kwanro (Teamliquid Article)
Nate MSL (11/26/09 - 1/23/10) - (Z)Jaedong > (T)Flash (Teamliquid Article)
Hana Bank MSL (4/1/10 - 5/29/10) - (T)Flash > (Z)Jaedong (Teamliquid Article)


The Players

Terran - The Pride of War (10)
#2 Seed (T)Flash - 이영호 - Lee Yung Ho
#6 Seed (T)Hwasin - 진영수 - Jin Yung Soo
#7 Seed (T)Light - 이재호 - Lee Jae Ho

(T)Sea - 염보성 - Yum Bo Sung
(T)Midas - 전상욱 - Jun Sang Wook
(T)BaBy - 전태양 - Jun Tae Yang
(T)MVP - 정종현 - Jeong Jong Hyeon
(T)fantasy - 정명훈 - Jung Myung Hoon
(T)Mind - 박성균 - Park Sung Gyoon
(T)HiyA - 구성훈 - Ku Sung Hoon

Zerg – Overcome All (12)
#1 Seed (Z)Jaedong - 이제동 - Lee Je Dong
#3 Seed (Z)Kwanro - 한상봉 - Han Sang Bong

(Z)ZerO - 김명운 - Kim Myung Woon
(Z)Hyuk - 박재혁 - Park Jae Hyuk
(Z)FireFist - 김재춘 - Kim Jae Choon
(Z)July - 박성준 - Park Sung Joon
(Z)Calm - 김윤환 - Kim Yoon Hwan
(Z)great - 차명환 - Cha Myung Hwan
(Z)Hydra - 신동원 - Shin Dong Won
(Z)Action - 김성대 - Kim Seong Dae
(Z)YellOw[ArnC] - 박명수 - Park Myung Soo
(Z)HyuN - 고석현 - Ko Seok Hyun

Protoss – Victory After Victory (10)
#4 Seed (P)Kal - 김구현 - Kim Ku Hyun
#5 Seed (P)BeSt - 도재욱 - Doh Jae Wook
#8 Seed (P)Stats - 김대엽 - Kim Dae Yeob

(P)Bisu - 김택용 - Kim Taek Yong
(P)JangBi - 허영무 - Hu Yung Moo
(P)Movie - 진영화 - Jin Young Hwa
(P)Stork - 송병구 - Song Byung Goo
(P)Pure - 박세정 - Park Sae Jung
(P)Shuttle - 김윤중 - Kim Yoon Joong
(P)free[gm] - 윤용태 - Yoon Yong Tae

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Terran - The Pride of War
#2 Seed (T)Flash - 이영호 - Lee Yung Ho
#6 Seed (T)Hwasin - 진영수 - Jin Yung Soo
#7 Seed (T)Light - 이재호 - Lee Jae Ho
(T)Sea - 염보성 - Yum Bo Sung
(T)Midas - 전상욱 - Jun Sang Wook
(T)BaBy - 전태양 - Jun Tae Yang
(T)MVP - 정종현 - Jeong Jong Hyeon
(T)fantasy - 정명훈 - Jung Myung Hoon
(T)Mind - 박성균 - Park Sung Gyoon
(T)HiyA - 구성훈 - Ku Sung Hoon

Zerg – Overcome All
#1 Seed (Z)Jaedong - 이제동 - Lee Je Dong
#3 Seed (Z)Kwanro - 한상봉 - Han Sang Bong
(Z)ZerO - 김명운 - Kim Myung Woon
(Z)Hyuk - 박재혁 - Park Jae Hyuk
(Z)FireFist - 김재춘 - Kim Jae Choon
(Z)July - 박성준 - Park Sung Joon
(Z)Calm - 김윤환 - Kim Yoon Hwan
(Z)great - 차명환 - Cha Myung Hwan
(Z)Hydra - 신동원 - Shin Dong Won
(Z)Action - 김성대 - Kim Seong Dae
(Z)YellOw[ArnC] - 박명수 - Park Myung Soo
(Z)HyuN - 고석현 - Ko Seok Hyun

Protoss – Victory After Victory
#4 Seed (P)Kal - 김구현 - Kim Ku Hyun
#5 Seed (P)BeSt - 도재욱 - Doh Jae Wook
#8 Seed (P)Stats - 김대엽 - Kim Dae Yeob
(P)Bisu - 김택용 - Kim Taek Yong
(P)JangBi - 허영무 - Hu Yung Moo
(P)Movie - 진영화 - Jin Young Hwa
(P)Stork - 송병구 - Song Byung Goo
(P)Pure - 박세정 - Park Sae Jung
(P)Shuttle - 김윤중 - Kim Yoon Joong
(P)free[gm] - 윤용태 - Yoon Yong Tae

Team Distribution:

STX SouL (5): (T)Hwasin, (Z)July, (Z)Calm, (P)Kal, (P)Shuttle
SK Telecom T1 (4): (T)fantasy, (Z)Hyuk, (P)BeSt, (P)Bisu
Woongjin Stars (4): (T)MVP, (Z)Kwanro, (Z)ZerO, (P)free[gm]
WeMade FOX (4): (T)Midas, (T)Mind, (T)BaBy, (P)Pure
KT Rolster (3): (T)Flash, (Z)FireFist, (P)Stats
MBCGame HERO (3): (T)Light, (T)Sea, (Z)HyuN
Samsung KHAN (3): (Z)great, (P)JangBi, (P)Stork
CJ Entus (2): (Z)Hydra, (P)Movie
Hwaseung OZ (2): (T)HiyA, (Z)Jaedong
eSTRO (1): (Z)Action
hite SPARKYZ (1): (Z)YellOw[ArnC]
Air Force ACE (0):

How they got this far:
2010 MBC Survivor Tournament S1 (by heyoka)

The Maps

Match Point
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Odd-Eye 2
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Fighting Spirit
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Triathlon
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The News

Survivor Recap and Ro32 Preview
Ro32 Recap and Ro16 Preview
Ro16 Recap and Ro8 Preview
Ro8 Recap and Ro4 Preview
Finals Preview


The Live Reports

Ro32 Group A
Ro32 Group F
Ro32 Group D
Ro32 Group E
Ro32 Group C
Ro32 Group G
Ro32 Group B
Ro32 Group H
Ro16 Day 1
Ro16 Day 2
Ro16 Day 3
Ro16 Day 4
Ro8 Day 1
Ro8 Day 2
Ro8 Day 3
Semifinal A
Semifinal B
Finals


The Group Selection

Group Selection Discussion Thread


Results and Standings for the Round of 32

Once again we return to a group stage for the round of thirty-two. Each group consists of four players; the group selection event determines their placement in each group. Each group must go through a double elimination format to determine which players will advance and which players are eliminated. If a player can get two wins before he gets two losses, then he advances to the next round. If he can’t, then he is eliminated. Two players from each group of four will have the chance to continue to fight for this season’s title.

Group A
1. (T)BaBy 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (Z)Jaedong 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (Z)July 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (Z)Hyuk 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (Z)Jaedong < Triathlon > (T)BaBy
Game 2: (Z)Hyuk < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)July
Winners: (T)BaBy < Match Point > (Z)July
Losers: (Z)Hyuk < Match Point > (Z)Jaedong
Finals: (Z)Jaedong < Fighting Spirit > (Z)July

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Winners:



Losers:



Final:


Group B
1. (T)Midas 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (T)Flash 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (Z)Action 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (Z)HyuN 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (T)Flash < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)Midas
Game 2: (Z)HyuN < Match Point > (Z)Action
Winners: (Z)Action < Fighting Spirit > (T)Midas
Losers: (T)Flash < Fighting Spirit > (Z)HyuN
Finals: (Z)Action < Triathlon > (T)Flash

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Winners:



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Final:


Group C
1. (T)Sea 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (T)fantasy 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (Z)Kwanro 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (T)Mind 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (Z)Kwanro < Match Point > (T)fantasy
Game 2: (T)Mind < Fighting Spirit > (T)Sea
Winners: (Z)Kwanro < Triathlon > (T)Sea
Losers: (T)Mind < Triathlon > (T)fantasy
Finals: (Z)Kwanro < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)fantasy

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Winners:



Losers:



Final:


Group D
1. (Z)great 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (T)HiyA 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (P)Kal 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (Z)YellOw[ArnC] 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (P)Kal < Fighting Spirit > (Z)great
Game 2: (T)HiyA < Triathlon > (Z)YellOw[ArnC]
Winners: (T)HiyA < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)great
Losers: (Z)YellOw[ArnC] < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)Kal
Finals: (T)HiyA < Match Point > (P)Kal

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Losers:



Final:


Group E
1. (Z)Hydra 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (T)MVP 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (P)BeSt 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (P)Stork 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (P)BeSt < Triathlon > (T)MVP
Game 2: (Z)Hydra < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)Stork
Winners: (Z)Hydra < Match Point > (P)BeSt
Losers: (T)MVP < Match Point > (P)Stork
Finals: (T)MVP < Fighting Spirit > (P)BeSt

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Losers:



Final:


Group F
1. (T)Hwasin 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (P)JangBi 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (Z)ZerO 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (Z)FireFist 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (T)Hwasin < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)FireFist
Game 2: (Z)ZerO < Match Point > (P)JangBi
Winners: (Z)ZerO < Fighting Spirit > (T)Hwasin
Losers: (Z)FireFist < Fighting Spirit > (P)JangBi
Finals: (P)JangBi < Triathlon > (Z)ZerO

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Losers:



Final:


Group G
1. (Z)Calm 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (P)free 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (P)Pure 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (T)Light 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (T)Light < Match Point > (P)Pure
Game 2: (Z)Calm < Fighting Spirit > (P)free
Winners: (P)Pure < Triathlon > (Z)Calm
Losers: (T)Light < Triathlon > (P)free
Finals: (P)Pure < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)free

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Losers:



Final:


Group H
1. (P)Shuttle 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (P)Movie 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (P)Bisu 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (P)Stats 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (P)Stats < Fighting Spirit > (P)Shuttle
Game 2: (P)Movie < Triathlon > (P)Bisu
Winners: (P)Bisu < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)Shuttle
Losers: (P)Stats < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)Movie
Finals: (P)Movie < Match Point > (P)Bisu

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Losers:



Final:




Results and Standings for the Round of 16

The number of remaining competitors has been halved as the tournament continues into the Round of 16. Beginning with this round, the tournament becomes single elimination. The players who finished first out of their groups last round will be paired against a player that finished in second. Each pair of players will play a best-of-three match to determine not only who will advance to the next round, but who will earn seeds into the following MSL.

Thumbs Down
Since there are four maps, there will be one map in each best-of-three match that will not be played. The players who finished first out of their group are given the opportunity to give a “thumbs down” to one of the maps. What this means is that the player will get to choose one of the four maps that he will not have to play on during this round. This allows the player the advantage of getting to remove a map that does not fit his play style or that he thinks may be imbalanced in a particular match-up.

Match A
(T)BaBy thumbed down Triathlon.

Game 1: (T)BaBy < Match Point > (T)MVP
Game 2: (T)BaBy < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)MVP
Game 3: (T)BaBy < Fighting Spirit > (T)MVP

(T)MVP 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 8
(T)BaBy 0-2 ► eliminated

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Game 2:


Match B
(Z)Hydra thumbed down Triathlon.

Game 1: (Z)Hydra < Match Point > (Z)Jaedong
Game 2: (Z)Hydra < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Jaedong
Game 3: (Z)Hydra < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Jaedong

(Z)Jaedong 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 8
(Z)Hydra 1-2 ► eliminated

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Game 2:



Game 3:


Match C
(T)Midas thumbed down Triathlon.

Game 1: (T)Midas < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)JangBi
Game 2: (T)Midas < Fighting Spirit > (P)JangBi
Game 3: (T)Midas < Match Point > (P)JangBi

(T)Midas
2-1 ► Advances to Round of 8
(P)JangBi 1-2 ► eliminated

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Game 2:



Game 3:


Match D
(T)Hwasin thumbed down Triathlon.

Game 1: (T)Hwasin < Match Point > (T)Flash
Game 2: (T)Hwasin < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)Flash
Game 3: (T)Hwasin < Fighting Spirit > (T)Flash

(T)Flash 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 8
(T)Hwasin 0-2 ► eliminated

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Game 2:


Match E
(T)Sea thumbed down Triathlon.

Game 1: (T)Sea < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)free
Game 2: (T)Sea < Match Point > (P)free
Game 3: (T)Sea < Fighting Spirit > (P)free

(P)free 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 8
(T)Sea 1-2 ► eliminated

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Game 2:



Game 3:


Match F
(Z)Calm thumbed down Triathlon.

Game 1: (Z)Calm < Match Point > (T)fantasy
Game 2: (Z)Calm < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)fantasy
Game 3: (Z)Calm < Fighting Spirit > (T)fantasy

(Z)Calm 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 8
(T)fantasy 1-2 ► eliminated

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Game 2:



Game 3:


Match G
(Z)great thumbed down Triathlon.

Game 1: (Z)great < Fighting Spirit > (P)Movie
Game 2: (Z)great < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)Movie
Game 3: (Z)great < Match Point > (P)Movie

(Z)great 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 8
(P)Movie 1-2 ► eliminated

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Game 2:



Game 3:


Match H
(P)Shuttle thumbed down Fighting Spirit.

Game 1: (P)Shuttle < Match Point > (T)HiyA
Game 2: (P)Shuttle < > (T)HiyA
Game 3: (P)Shuttle < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)HiyA

(T)HiyA 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 8
(P)Shuttle 0-2 ► eliminated

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Game 2:



Results and Standings for the Round of 8

MBC's new format for the Ro8 has entered its third (and last) season. The brackets from the Ro16 have been discontinued, and the matchups are now determined by KeSPA ranking. The matchups are a Bo5 format, with both players able to thumb down maps they do not want to see played twice.

Match A

Game 1: (T)Flash < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)MVP
Game 2: (T)Flash < Match Point > (T)MVP
Game 3: (T)Flash < Triathlon > (T)MVP
Game 4: (T)Flash < Fighting Spirit > (T)MVP
Game 5: (T)Flash < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)MVP

(T)Flash 3-1 ► Advances to Semifinals
(T)MVP 1-3 ► eliminated

Match B

Game 1: (P)free < Fighting Spirit > (T)HiyA
Game 2: (P)free < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)HiyA
Game 3: (P)free < Match Point > (T)HiyA
Game 4: (P)free < Triathlon > (T)HiyA
Game 5: (P)free < Fighting Spirit > (T)HiyA

(P)free 0-0 ► Advances to Semifinals
(T)HiyA 0-0 ► eliminated

Match C

Game 1: (Z)great < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Calm
Game 2: (Z)great < Match Point > (Z)Calm
Game 3: (Z)great < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Calm
Game 4: (Z)great < Triathlon > (Z)Calm
Game 5: (Z)great < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Calm

(Z)Calm 3-2 ► Advances to Semifinals
(Z)great 2-3 ► eliminated

Match D

Game 1: (T)Midas < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Jaedong
Game 2: (T)Midas < Triathlon > (Z)Jaedong
Game 3: (T)Midas < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Jaedong
Game 4: (T)Midas < Match Point > (Z)Jaedong
Game 5: (T)Midas < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Jaedong


(Z)Jaedong 3-0 ► Advances to Semifinals
(T)Midas 0-3 ► eliminated


The Semifinals

Match A

(T)Flash < Match Point > (P)free
(T)Flash < Triathlon > (P)free
(T)Flash < Fighting Spirit > (P)free
(T)Flash < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)free
(T)Flash < Match Point > (P)free


(T)Flash 3-0 ► Advances to Finals
(P)free 0-3 ► eliminated

Match B

(Z)Jaedong < Match Point > (Z)Calm
(Z)Jaedong < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Calm
(Z)Jaedong < Triathlon > (Z)Calm
(Z)Jaedong < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Calm
(Z)Jaedong < Match Point > (Z)Calm

(Z)Jaedong 3-1 ► Advances to Finals
(Z)Calm 1-3 ► eliminated


The Finals

(T)Flash < Triathlon > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Flash < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Flash < Match Point > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Flash < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Flash < Triathlon > (Z)Jaedong


(T)Flash 3-0 ► GOLD
(Z)Jaedong 0-3 ► silver

The Miscellaneous

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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-31 00:37:04
March 31 2010 00:06 GMT
#2
This is in the wrong forum

EDIT: no it isn't, wtf
ModeratorGood content always wins.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
March 31 2010 00:10 GMT
#3
Yeah I was about to say >.>
I like your banner though :D
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
March 31 2010 00:14 GMT
#4
This should totally remain "??? MSL" in TLPD. XD

And waw, Bisu gets an all PvP group. This should be interesting.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
March 31 2010 00:19 GMT
#5
So... now that JD is in the hospital, I guess group A is getting pushed back?
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-31 00:45:28
March 31 2010 00:42 GMT
#6
Hyuk is guaranteed at most one TvZ. So if he doesn't win 2-0, he is assured of at least 2 ZvZ's, which are his strong suit (well, compared to his other matchups, which are pretty horrible). Hmm!

and the PvPvPvP group - that ought to be interesting.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
MrBob
Profile Joined November 2009
93 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-31 01:27:08
March 31 2010 01:26 GMT
#7
now what happens if they can't get a sponser?

the MSL starts in about 1 day...
Who can troll the past can troll the future. Who can troll the present can troll the past.
[Azn]Nada
Profile Joined April 2009
United States275 Posts
March 31 2010 02:10 GMT
#8
They should get a power company to sponsor it. Then fans might actually care about the msl again.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
March 31 2010 02:13 GMT
#9
I like the banner.

Waiting in anticipation for the sponsor.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 31 2010 02:31 GMT
#10
I wonder if Bisu can make it out. I think PvP is favorable for him, even though the others aren't PvP pushovers. I wonder if he can adjust and reduce the flaw that Kingdom and go.go mentioned about him - being super predictable with builds against a good number of players.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
March 31 2010 02:33 GMT
#11
On March 31 2010 11:10 [Azn]Nada wrote:
They should get a power company to sponsor it. Then fans might actually care about the msl again.


rofl so true
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
March 31 2010 02:35 GMT
#12
'Swhat happens when you do that crappy ass separate area "vitual" booth shit. Worst finals ever.
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QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-31 03:19:29
March 31 2010 03:18 GMT
#13
So is the sponsor this company/organization called "???" ?

On March 31 2010 11:10 [Azn]Nada wrote:
They should get a power company to sponsor it. Then fans might actually care about the msl again.


LOL

On March 31 2010 11:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
'Swhat happens when you do that crappy ass separate area "vitual" booth shit. Worst finals ever.


I don't think the MBC folks learn their mistakes yet with their little to none attempts to do something to fix that finals. Which is why many fans boycott it still.
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
March 31 2010 05:48 GMT
#14
On March 31 2010 11:10 [Azn]Nada wrote:
They should get a power company to sponsor it. Then fans might actually care about the msl again.

Win.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
March 31 2010 05:49 GMT
#15
Team Liquid is sponsoring the MSL. Look for an announcement on April 1st, 2010.
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Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
March 31 2010 08:58 GMT
#16
On March 31 2010 11:10 [Azn]Nada wrote:
They should get a power company to sponsor it. Then fans might actually care about the msl again.

You won the thread imo.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-31 09:04:02
March 31 2010 09:03 GMT
#17
ouch... msl still has no sponsor yet.
Brood War loyalist
Bormac
Profile Joined May 2008
Belgium122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-01 09:51:06
March 31 2010 12:49 GMT
#18
Kudos to the graphics team for the sweet banner!
:p

It's hard to believe people are still holding that power outage against MBC. Jaedong had the game won, and it's a thing of the past now.

Lets hope this will be the start of an entertaining MSL!
(Although I'm not watching group H, bloody pvp mirrors.)

Edit: fixed brainfart.
Code monkeys, best monkeys!
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
March 31 2010 13:24 GMT
#19
You mean that JD had that game won right?

As for the groups, just lol at group H.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
March 31 2010 13:59 GMT
#20
Epic banner!

Yet again a group full of P. At least we are sure we will see some Protoss players in Ro16...

Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
March 31 2010 15:07 GMT
#21
group C and H are so tough...
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
March 31 2010 17:07 GMT
#22
Go Free!!
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
March 31 2010 18:34 GMT
#23
Race distribution in groups is so bad...
At least OSL groups are amazing
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8025 Posts
March 31 2010 19:20 GMT
#24
Go Jaedong!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
March 31 2010 23:05 GMT
#25
Anybody know what's going to happen to tonight's matches? Jaedong's out sick (so I hear), so are they going to make him forfeit? More reasonable, I'd think, would be to reschedule the match, but if I'm going to be making an OP tonight, I'd like to know before I post it.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
March 31 2010 23:30 GMT
#26
how can they have an MSL without sponsor? Does this mean the MSL has no prizes this season or what ?
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bias-
Profile Joined October 2004
United States410 Posts
March 31 2010 23:54 GMT
#27
I'm happy in a twisted-revenge sort of way because the MSL fucked us out of the most epic finals the late stages of BW will probably ever have. Everyone felt cheated.

So I'm glad they're being embarrassed. Again.

Except I know it's bad for the scene so I gotta man up and forgive them.

For serious minds, a bias recognized is a bias sterilized.
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
April 01 2010 00:02 GMT
#28
is jaedong going to be able to play tonight? i thought he was in the hospital with something pretty bad...
FoieGras
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada270 Posts
April 01 2010 00:39 GMT
#29
Best Banner Ever.

Groups C and H look tough
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 01 2010 06:35 GMT
#30
On April 01 2010 09:02 Chen wrote:
is jaedong going to be able to play tonight? i thought he was in the hospital with something pretty bad...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117895

i don't think he will be, but i don't think that it has been confirmed yet.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
AluKarD[PaiN]
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada3 Posts
April 02 2010 12:41 GMT
#31
vods plz
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11291 Posts
April 02 2010 13:16 GMT
#32
On April 02 2010 21:41 AluKarD[PaiN] wrote:
vods plz

What's your problem?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50875&currentpage=329
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
April 02 2010 15:43 GMT
#33
People have been PMing me about updating the thread. Give me more than 24 hours to do so before you freak out, please. Thank you.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 02 2010 16:31 GMT
#34
Lol guys leave motbob alone. Instead of making him do the work, wouldn't it just take you three seconds worth of effort to click "tourneys," find the match you are looking for, scroll down to "results," and unspoiler them? Seriously.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 02 2010 16:44 GMT
#35
if it makes you feel any better i still love you motbob

and if it doesnt then GET THAT SHIT UPDATED
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jk, take your time please, it's appreciated
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 04 2010 08:52 GMT
#36
Three dragons out already lol.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 04 2010 08:58 GMT
#37
On April 04 2010 17:52 SuperArc wrote:
Three dragons out already lol.

>.>
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
din
Profile Joined October 2009
Hungary27 Posts
April 04 2010 21:30 GMT
#38
E.ON MSL?
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
April 05 2010 23:34 GMT
#39
What's the grid for round of 16?
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
April 06 2010 02:26 GMT
#40
Protoss fails again, at least there's one group two can get out. (T_T Stork and best)
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
April 06 2010 08:18 GMT
#41
What happens if MBC doesn't find a sponsor?
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 13:05:10
April 06 2010 11:36 GMT
#42
Round of 16
(T)BaBy vs (T)MVP
(Z)Hydra vs (Z)Jaedong
(T)Hwasin vs B2
(P)JangBi vs B1
(T)Sea vs (P)free
(Z)Calm vs (T)fantasy
(Z)great vs H2
(T)HiyA - H1
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 06 2010 12:40 GMT
#43
Not too many big name matchups so far...
And I worry with GhostKorean as well, MBC needs to get a sponsor already.
Perhaps it will help if Bisu makes it through...
And poor Jangbi >.>
I wouldn't want to face Flash.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
April 06 2010 13:10 GMT
#44
On April 06 2010 20:36 pachi wrote:
Round of 16
(T)BaBy vs (T)MVP
(Z)Hydra vs (Z)Jaedong
(T)Hwasin vs B2
(P)JangBi vs B1
(T)Sea vs (P)free
(Z)Calm vs (T)fantasy
(Z)great vs H2
(T)HiyA - H1


Those two promise to be the most interesting matches in Ro16
(T)Sea vs (P)free
(Z)Calm vs (T)fantasy

and yeah jangbi is screwed
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 06 2010 15:01 GMT
#45
YES! BABY TO RO8! MVP EZPZ
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
April 06 2010 17:50 GMT
#46
On April 07 2010 00:01 Shotcoder wrote:
YES! MVO TO RO8! BABY EZPZ


fixed.
Bisu... ;-(
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 06 2010 18:10 GMT
#47
I really hope Movie advances as H2. Otherwise we will have great in the Ro8. -.-
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
April 06 2010 18:40 GMT
#48
On April 07 2010 03:10 SuperArc wrote:
I really hope Movie advances as H2. Otherwise we will have great in the Ro8. -.-


great will not beat bisu.
Bisu... ;-(
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 06 2010 18:45 GMT
#49
On April 07 2010 03:40 SkytoM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 03:10 SuperArc wrote:
I really hope Movie advances as H2. Otherwise we will have great in the Ro8. -.-


great will not beat bisu.


the current Bisu would be piece of cake for great.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
April 07 2010 02:27 GMT
#50
On April 06 2010 20:36 pachi wrote:
Round of 16
...
(Z)Calm vs (T)fantasy
...

Delicious... But equally concerning.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 07 2010 03:55 GMT
#51
On April 07 2010 11:27 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 20:36 pachi wrote:
Round of 16
...
(Z)Calm vs (T)fantasy
...

Delicious... But equally concerning.

Looking forward to this one, in particular. Shame they can't both advance, since I like them both a lot.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 07 2010 05:01 GMT
#52
On April 07 2010 02:50 SkytoM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 00:01 Shotcoder wrote:
YES! MVO TO RO8! BABY EZPZ


fixed.


fail fix
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-07 19:31:49
April 07 2010 19:31 GMT
#53
Fantasy vs. Calm rivalry is awesome. Its like a lower class version of Flash vs. Jaedong except I found them just as entertaining as both Fantasy and Calm are brilliant strategist.

Also its their first time in a series.
ndralcasid
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States524 Posts
April 08 2010 06:42 GMT
#54
I can't read Korean, but I was on Fomos using Google Translate, and it seems that the MSL might have gotten a sponsor. Can someone that knows Korean look up and confirm??
I aint crying over some daggone danishes
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 08 2010 07:00 GMT
#55
On April 08 2010 15:42 ndralcasid wrote:
I can't read Korean, but I was on Fomos using Google Translate, and it seems that the MSL might have gotten a sponsor. Can someone that knows Korean look up and confirm??


Yes, you're right, MSL now has a sponsor, Hana Daetoo Securities. So it will be called "Hana Daetoo Securities MSL".

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http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=105556&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

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2010년 첫 번째 MSL (MBC게임 스타크래프트 리그)의 후원사가 하나대투증권으로 전격 결정되었다고 8일 MBC게임 (MBC플러스미디어, 대표이사 안현덕)이 발표했다.

하나금융그룹의 이 같은 e스포츠리그 후원은 그 동안 비교적 보수적인 이미지를 가지고 있었던 금융권에 대한 전반적인 인식을 뛰어넘는 이례적인 사건으로, 그 동안 주로 IT기업 중심으로 이루어져 왔던 e스포츠 후원의 새로운 지평을 창조함과 동시에 e스포츠계가 MSL을 통해 e스포츠의 새로운 성장 동력을 확보했다는 평가를 받고 있다.

금융권의 e스포츠리그 후원은 지난 2007년부터 프로리그의 후원을 진행해온 신한은행 이후 최초의 사례로, 하나대투증권의 이 같은 MSL 후원 결정은 젊은 세대들의 대표적인 엔터테인먼트 문화인 e스포츠를 통한 홍보를 바탕으로 미래의 잠재적인 고객인 13-30대들에게 ‘창조적이며 혁신적인’ 금융기업으로서의 브랜드 이미지를 확고히 함과 동시에 그 동안 시도하지 않았던 e스포츠라는 새로운 마케팅 툴(tool)을 이용해 미래 금융 시장을 선도하고자 하는 취지가 있는 것으로 풀이된다.

하나대투증권 장승철 사장은 “금번 MSL의 후원은 ‘변화를 넘어선 아름다운 열정’이라는 하나금융그룹의 모토처럼 최고의 열정을 가지고 언제나 변화와 새로운 시도에 앞장서는 e스포츠와 하나대투증권의 이미지 일체화를 통해 넘버원 일류 금융기업으로써의 면모를 보여주고자 함이다”라고 소감을 밝혔다.

한편 안현덕 MBC플러스미디어 대표이사는 “이번 하나대투증권의 MSL 후원 결정을 환영하며, ‘2010 하나대투증권 MSL’을 e스포츠 팬들의 관심과 기대에 부응할 수 있는 역대 최고의 MSL로 만들기 위하여 MBC게임의 모든 노력을 기울이겠다”는 포부를 드러냈다.

역대 최고의 선수들로 32강이 이루어졌다는 평가를 받고 있는 ‘2010 하나대투증권 MSL’은 4월 1(목) 개막전이 있었고 오는 5월 29일(토) 대망의 결승전을 치를 예정이다.

제공=MBC게임

스타2의 모든 것이 한 눈에...포모스 스타크래프트2 오픈
모바일로 보는 스타크래프트 1253+NATE/ⓝ/ez-i
Enjoy e-Sports & http://www.fomos.kr 무단 전재 및 재배포 금지
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 08 2010 07:55 GMT
#56
i laughed at first but apparently Hana Bank, the parent company, is bigger than Shinhan.

good sponsor.
agen
Profile Joined October 2008
Barbados111 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 10:46:09
April 08 2010 10:44 GMT
#57
.edited, realized I was in the wrong thread. Anyway, sucks to be Hwasin.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
April 08 2010 12:30 GMT
#58
Hana Daetoo Securities MSL Ro16

KeSPA-Rank (April 2010) for Ro8-seeding put in parentheses

(T)BaBy (28) - (T)MVP (68)
(Z)Jaedong (2) - (Z)Hydra (50)
(T)Midas (52) - (P)JangBi (17)
(T)Flash (1) - (T)Hwasin (13)
(T)Sea (20) - (P)free (18)
(T)fantasy (9) - (Z)Calm (3)
(Z)great (46) - (P)Movie (10)
(T)HiyA (19) - (P)Shuttle (45)
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 08 2010 12:44 GMT
#59
We have got some very nice Ro16 matches. Should be all exciting except Flash vs Hwasin.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 08 2010 14:57 GMT
#60
Most of the Ro16 matches are just going to be one-sided rapes I guess. Should still be fun though.
Brood War loyalist
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
April 08 2010 14:57 GMT
#61
On April 08 2010 21:44 SuperArc wrote:
We have got some very nice Ro16 matches. Should be all exciting except Flash vs Hwasin.


What's wrong with Flash vs Hwasin? I am actually looking forward to that one.

But yeah, ro16 looks pretty sweet.

And lol at so many terrans there. Crazy amount. Pretty sure a Terran will win MSL (or Jaedong ).

Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 15:34:50
April 08 2010 15:31 GMT
#62
Ro16 games seem promising

Ro8 is the winner of A vs winner of B and so on?
I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work the luckier I am.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 08 2010 15:57 GMT
#63
On April 08 2010 23:57 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2010 21:44 SuperArc wrote:
We have got some very nice Ro16 matches. Should be all exciting except Flash vs Hwasin.


What's wrong with Flash vs Hwasin? I am actually looking forward to that one.

But yeah, ro16 looks pretty sweet.

And lol at so many terrans there. Crazy amount. Pretty sure a Terran will win MSL (or Jaedong ).



Flash + TvT+ BoX = rape? :p

On April 09 2010 00:31 Art.FeeL wrote:
Ro16 games seem promising

Ro8 is the winner of A vs winner of B and so on?


No, it's KeSPA #1 vs KeSPA #lowest and so on.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 08 2010 16:31 GMT
#64
8T, 4Z, 4P...
Yeah...
Moh.
Some interesting and probably one-sided matches coming up...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Zaxro
Profile Joined November 2009
United States261 Posts
April 08 2010 17:06 GMT
#65
On April 09 2010 00:57 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2010 23:57 Lebesgue wrote:
On April 08 2010 21:44 SuperArc wrote:
We have got some very nice Ro16 matches. Should be all exciting except Flash vs Hwasin.


What's wrong with Flash vs Hwasin? I am actually looking forward to that one.

But yeah, ro16 looks pretty sweet.

And lol at so many terrans there. Crazy amount. Pretty sure a Terran will win MSL (or Jaedong ).



Flash + TvT+ BoX = rape? :p

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 00:31 Art.FeeL wrote:
Ro16 games seem promising

Ro8 is the winner of A vs winner of B and so on?


No, it's KeSPA #1 vs KeSPA #lowest and so on.


The other reason I'm worried for Hwasin, beyond playing Flash in a Bo3, is that Flash isn't a Zerg. His TvT and TvP aren't even comparable to his TvZ (I would seriously consider LB'ing Hwasin against any Zerg but not many terrans or protoses).

Also It is first place in one group vs. second in another for the Ro16. Matchups based on KeSPA rank happen in the Ro8.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
April 08 2010 17:36 GMT
#66
looks like baby has a good chance of having to play flash or jaedong in ro8
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
April 08 2010 17:48 GMT
#67
Sponser is Daetoo Securities
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
April 08 2010 18:54 GMT
#68
On April 09 2010 01:31 flamewheel91 wrote:
8T, 4Z, 4P...
Yeah...
Moh.
Some interesting and probably one-sided matches coming up...

Yeah, people talking about tosses failing, but zergs are pretty fucked, too.

There's probably only going to be one zerg left in the Ro8, looking at the Ro16 matchups right now.

Wow.
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Withershins
Profile Joined December 2009
Vatican City State101 Posts
April 08 2010 21:26 GMT
#69
On April 09 2010 03:54 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 01:31 flamewheel91 wrote:
8T, 4Z, 4P...
Yeah...
Moh.
Some interesting and probably one-sided matches coming up...

Yeah, people talking about tosses failing, but zergs are pretty fucked, too.

There's probably only going to be one zerg left in the Ro8, looking at the Ro16 matchups right now.

Wow.


Might as well be 3 of them, unless you're counting on Fantasy's vZ and Movie not failing.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 08 2010 21:31 GMT
#70
On April 09 2010 06:26 Withershins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 03:54 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On April 09 2010 01:31 flamewheel91 wrote:
8T, 4Z, 4P...
Yeah...
Moh.
Some interesting and probably one-sided matches coming up...

Yeah, people talking about tosses failing, but zergs are pretty fucked, too.

There's probably only going to be one zerg left in the Ro8, looking at the Ro16 matchups right now.

Wow.


Might as well be 3 of them, unless you're counting on Fantasy's vZ and Movie not failing.


Movie's PvZ is solid, S-class and the best there is atm. You can most definitely count great out.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 21:45:02
April 08 2010 21:44 GMT
#71
Bisu and Kal are out.
oh well. SEEEEEEEEEA
cw)minsean(ru
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 09 2010 02:43 GMT
#72
On April 09 2010 06:31 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 06:26 Withershins wrote:
On April 09 2010 03:54 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On April 09 2010 01:31 flamewheel91 wrote:
8T, 4Z, 4P...
Yeah...
Moh.
Some interesting and probably one-sided matches coming up...

Yeah, people talking about tosses failing, but zergs are pretty fucked, too.

There's probably only going to be one zerg left in the Ro8, looking at the Ro16 matchups right now.

Wow.


Might as well be 3 of them, unless you're counting on Fantasy's vZ and Movie not failing.


Movie's PvZ is solid, S-class and the best there is atm. You can most definitely count great out.

That's what we said for the Ro32...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
leejas
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States440 Posts
April 09 2010 06:25 GMT
#73
Hwasin v. Flash is going to be Sweeeeeeeet! Really glad Sea made it ttoo
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-09 11:32:20
April 09 2010 11:29 GMT
#74
wow many mirror matches on r of 16
and some cool players getting fucked (hwasin again .... what is it with him falling on s class at their peak each time )
waiting for free vs sea / shuttle vs hiya /midas vs jangbi
go midas go jaedong
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
April 09 2010 15:26 GMT
#75
BISU
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
ms9ball
Profile Joined December 2009
United States7 Posts
April 09 2010 20:06 GMT
#76
where can i find the bracket for the ro16?
is it
(a+b vs c+d) vs (e+f vs g+h)
One Two Three Four Five
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-09 21:09:16
April 09 2010 21:06 GMT
#77
On April 09 2010 06:26 Withershins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 03:54 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On April 09 2010 01:31 flamewheel91 wrote:
8T, 4Z, 4P...
Yeah...
Moh.
Some interesting and probably one-sided matches coming up...

Yeah, people talking about tosses failing, but zergs are pretty fucked, too.

There's probably only going to be one zerg left in the Ro8, looking at the Ro16 matchups right now.

Wow.


Might as well be 3 of them, unless you're counting on Fantasy's vZ and Movie not failing.


Fantasy is on a 2 game streak against Calm, think he will continue the trend.

Btw MSL finally got a sponsor? Man that took a while.
Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
Jaester88
Profile Joined September 2009
United States143 Posts
April 10 2010 00:06 GMT
#78
On April 10 2010 05:06 ms9ball wrote:
where can i find the bracket for the ro16?
is it
(a+b vs c+d) vs (e+f vs g+h)


There's no bracket yet. The matches for the Ro16 are

(T)BaBy vs (T)MVP
(Z)Hydra vs (Z)Jaedong
(T)Hwasin vs (T)Flash
(P)JangBi vs (T)Midas
(T)Sea vs (P)free
(Z)Calm vs (T)fantasy
(Z)great vs (P)Movie
(T)HiyA - (P)Shuttle

After the Ro16 is over, the bracket is constructed for the Ro8 according to KeSPA ranking. Basically, the highest KeSPA ranked player will play the lowest KeSPA ranked player, the second highest KeSPA ranked player will play the second to lowest ranked player, etc, and #1 and #2 cannot meet until the finals. (So if Flash vs Jaedong happens again, it'll be at the finals again.)
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
April 10 2010 02:46 GMT
#79
lol hana bank msl
the throws never bothered me anyway
Deleted User 37864
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
780 Posts
April 10 2010 07:30 GMT
#80
i think hana bank is like facepalming right now after all these rumors of match fixing.. will def ruin progaming
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 10 2010 13:26 GMT
#81
On April 10 2010 05:06 ms9ball wrote:
where can i find the bracket for the ro16?
is it
(a+b vs c+d) vs (e+f vs g+h)

http://www.wfbrood.com/xingji/hanguoxingji/xingji_47171.html
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 16:53:07
April 10 2010 16:52 GMT
#82
[image loading]
ModeratorGood content always wins.
SultanVinegar
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States372 Posts
April 10 2010 16:58 GMT
#83
lol everybody hates triathalon
I'm a Flash man.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
April 11 2010 00:17 GMT
#84
JD and Baby could meet in the Ro8? Tasty.
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
April 11 2010 03:05 GMT
#85
Before the Ro16 starts, I just thought I'd use the power of TLPD to sum up the MSL thus far:

Race Stats (non-mirrors):
TvZ: 10-2 (83.3%)
ZvP: 6-3 (66.7%)
PvT: 3-3 (50%)

-__-
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pathy
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Taiwan619 Posts
April 11 2010 04:06 GMT
#86
banks seem to like starcraft O.o
Graphicscolosi suck
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 11 2010 16:28 GMT
#87
On April 11 2010 01:58 SultanVinegar wrote:
lol everybody hates triathalon


except protoss
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
April 11 2010 17:53 GMT
#88
Fantasy vs Calm. SKT T1 ace vs STX Soul ace.
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
NukeTheStars
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States277 Posts
April 11 2010 18:33 GMT
#89
On April 11 2010 01:52 motbob wrote:
[image loading]


LOL, those are my drawings! From my preview video last season! What the hell??

Must be fun to live in a country that cares nothing about copyright!
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
April 11 2010 20:03 GMT
#90
I hope Midas get raped in the ass by Jangbi for getting 2-1.
but its Jangbi, this could suck.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
April 11 2010 20:06 GMT
#91
On April 12 2010 03:33 NukeTheStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2010 01:52 motbob wrote:
[image loading]


LOL, those are my drawings! From my preview video last season! What the hell??

Must be fun to live in a country that cares nothing about copyright!

you are amazing. source to the original drawing?
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
April 11 2010 23:33 GMT
#92
If Flash, Baby, Movie, Hiya, JD, and Jangbi win their games (all are arguably favorites) then we get Flash vs Baby in Ro8.

Distinct chance of Flash vs Shuttle too....
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 12 2010 01:36 GMT
#93
LOL everyone thumbs down Triathlon except Shuttle. What a baller.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 12 2010 02:26 GMT
#94
On April 12 2010 10:36 Jugan wrote:
LOL everyone thumbs down Triathlon except Shuttle. What a baller.


he was also the only protoss to get to thumbs down a map
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
April 12 2010 03:10 GMT
#95
On April 12 2010 03:33 NukeTheStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2010 01:52 motbob wrote:
[image loading]


LOL, those are my drawings! From my preview video last season! What the hell??

Must be fun to live in a country that cares nothing about copyright!

...maybe the Chinese says "All credit to NukeTheStars. We're his biggest fans."

Probably not.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 12 2010 03:13 GMT
#96
On April 12 2010 11:26 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 10:36 Jugan wrote:
LOL everyone thumbs down Triathlon except Shuttle. What a baller.


he was also the only protoss to get to thumbs down a map


Triathalon seems a lot like Katrina to me. Protoss has an easy time getting a lot of gas, which is good for vs Zerg, and gets the benefit of pseudo island expansions vs Terran.
Remember Violet.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
April 12 2010 03:27 GMT
#97
I think pros have enough maps to practice for. Why would you want to add an extra one which is also very hard for your race if you play Zerg. A natural choice
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
April 12 2010 03:31 GMT
#98
On April 12 2010 12:27 Lebesgue wrote:
I think pros have enough maps to practice for. Why would you want to add an extra one which is also very hard for your race if you play Zerg. A natural choice


Yeah I think this is the real reason. If anything it's also saying that the pros think the other maps (Match Point, FS, Odd-Eye 2) aren't soooo bad that they felt compelled to thumbs-down them and practice a brand new map instead.
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
April 12 2010 06:04 GMT
#99
On April 12 2010 10:36 Jugan wrote:
LOL everyone thumbs down Triathlon except Shuttle. What a baller.


Haha I predicted in the four toss thread that this map fits Shuttle's playstyle really well, Beast macro from Triathlon inc.
Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 06:09:52
April 12 2010 06:06 GMT
#100
On April 12 2010 12:10 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 03:33 NukeTheStars wrote:
On April 11 2010 01:52 motbob wrote:
[image loading]


LOL, those are my drawings! From my preview video last season! What the hell??

Must be fun to live in a country that cares nothing about copyright!

...maybe the Chinese says "All credit to NukeTheStars. We're his biggest fans."

Probably not.


lol. it says "wfbrood - newest, fastest, most complete starcraft news"

edit: OP still says "??? MSL"
Writer
cognizantfire
Profile Joined March 2010
Hong Kong77 Posts
April 12 2010 06:10 GMT
#101
lol at the thumbing down of Triathlon in all but 1 group...
Maybe it's time for KeSPA to develop more balanced maps...
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
April 12 2010 06:20 GMT
#102
maybe they thumbed down triathlon (even for mirror matches) because they are more familiar with the other ones, so they don't have to practice as much
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
April 12 2010 06:34 GMT
#103
On April 12 2010 15:06 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 12:10 motbob wrote:
On April 12 2010 03:33 NukeTheStars wrote:
On April 11 2010 01:52 motbob wrote:
[image loading]


LOL, those are my drawings! From my preview video last season! What the hell??

Must be fun to live in a country that cares nothing about copyright!

...maybe the Chinese says "All credit to NukeTheStars. We're his biggest fans."

Probably not.


lol. it says "wfbrood - newest, fastest, most complete starcraft news"

edit: OP still says "??? MSL"

whoops, thanks.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
April 12 2010 07:26 GMT
#104
On April 12 2010 03:33 NukeTheStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2010 01:52 motbob wrote:
[image loading]


LOL, those are my drawings! From my preview video last season! What the hell??

Must be fun to live in a country that cares nothing about copyright!


lol, somehow I doubt you have gone through to trouble to register a copyright on those two sketches, but I am sure wfbrood.com is ready to pay you royalties anyway.
ModeratorGodfather
NukeTheStars
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States277 Posts
April 13 2010 04:13 GMT
#105
On April 12 2010 16:26 Manifesto7 wrote:

lol, somehow I doubt you have gone through to trouble to register a copyright on those two sketches, but I am sure wfbrood.com is ready to pay you royalties anyway.


You don't have to register anything to establish basic copyright. If they were based in any other country, I could make them take it down. I'm not bothered by it, though. I just think it's funny

Here's the original video -
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
April 13 2010 08:36 GMT
#106
omfg, this video is even funnier than the pics.
especially the pissed like hell JD.
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
April 13 2010 09:17 GMT
#107
JD is awesome when he is pissed, which makes him one of the players I enjoy watching.
CJ Entusman #24
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-14 03:32:14
April 13 2010 23:44 GMT
#108
What! NuketheStars!!! Awesome! This thread is now officially epic due to your presence! Don't drink soda!
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
April 14 2010 18:52 GMT
#109
holy crap 7 of the 8 maps thumbed down were triathlon

I guess the pros hate it as much as I do
brood war for life, brood war forever
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
April 14 2010 19:25 GMT
#110
It makes sense for Shuttle not to thumb-down triathlon since it seems to be pretty good for PvT.

Don't really get why the TvTs or ZvZs would thumb it down tho... I suppose because they don't have much time on the map yet.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 22 2010 12:31 GMT
#111
how stupid from Shuttle going 12nex on a P>T favoured map
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
April 22 2010 20:31 GMT
#112
Is this true, that Jae will figt against Flash in RO8???
JD fanboy. #FPPS
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11291 Posts
April 22 2010 20:38 GMT
#113
On April 23 2010 05:31 Zera wrote:
Is this true, that Jae will figt against Flash in RO8???

Didn't they reshuffle the brackets according to Kespa ranking last time? In that case, JD vs. Flash should be impossible until the finals.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 24 2010 10:38 GMT
#114
Man that is updated fast, thanks for keeping track of this.

unfortunate free had to knock out Sea to move on. I really wanted Sea to make it further.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 10:41:46
April 24 2010 10:40 GMT
#115
(T)MVP - 68 (8)
(Z)Jaedong - 2 (2)
(T)Midas - 52 (7)
(T)Flash - 1 (1)
(P)free - 18 (4)
(Z)Calm - 3 (3)
(Z)great - 46 (6)
(T)HiyA - 19 (5)

1. (T)Flash vs 8. (T)MVP
4. (P)free vs 5. (T)HiyA
2. (Z)Jaedong vs 7. (T)Midas
3. (Z)Calm vs 6. (Z)great

To be frank these are almost perfect brackets for my tastes.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 24 2010 10:43 GMT
#116
Even in terran season we can't avoid ZvZ bo5s? meh
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 24 2010 10:56 GMT
#117
Would you rather each zerg be paired with a terran and have none of them survive to the semifinals?
Well, maybe JD will make it through against his terran opponent.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 11:02:24
April 24 2010 10:58 GMT
#118
Bah not terribly excited for the Ro8. Only interesting matchup is Free vs Hiya. All the others will probably end up being extremely onsided.

It would be amazing and hilarious if Midas beats Jaedong. It would probably be one of the biggest career revivals in pro Starcraft history.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 24 2010 11:00 GMT
#119
Oh lord, Flash vs MVP is gonna be so one-sided. XD Free vs Hiya and Jaedong vs Midas are both interesting match-ups with no super obvious favourite. And fuck ZvZ.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
April 24 2010 12:44 GMT
#120
Both free vs Hiya and Jaedong vs Midas should be good, given Midas' recent form.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 13:39:20
April 24 2010 13:17 GMT
#121
When will these matches be played? Do we even know?
EDIT: Round of 8
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 13:59:33
April 24 2010 13:59 GMT
#122
On April 24 2010 22:17 tnud wrote:
When will these matches be played? Do we even know?
EDIT: Round of 8

If you want to be the hero of the day for Team Liquid, take out your Google Translate machete and hack your way through the Fomos jungle to find the official Ro8 schedule.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 14:21:37
April 24 2010 14:05 GMT
#123
On April 24 2010 22:59 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 22:17 tnud wrote:
When will these matches be played? Do we even know?
EDIT: Round of 8

If you want to be the hero of the day for Team Liquid, take out your Google Translate machete and hack your way through the Fomos jungle to find the official Ro8 schedule.

sounds very unhealthy :S
EDIT: that site is horrible... google translate doesn't help...
EDIT2: I give up.. I don't think it's posted yet..
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dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
April 24 2010 14:38 GMT
#124
Things don't look that bad for Midas, hes grouped with 3 other zergs in his side of the bracket.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
April 24 2010 16:08 GMT
#125
free vs hiya and jd vs midas both sound interesting. imho jd and maybe free are the only players left capable of beating flash.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 18:55:11
April 24 2010 16:23 GMT
#126
Ugh, (Z)great in the final 8 is pretty bad. (P)Movie seriously dropped the ball there.

Not to mention (T)MVP.


***

Actually, the MSL has Flash and Jaedong, but beyond them, the overall quality takes a deep dive. There's free and Calm on the second tier, and then.. scrubs.

Meanwhile, the OSL is shaping up to have a great PvZ semi-final, and hopefully Movie can beat Pure to make a competitive other semi-final. So while the OSL has a clear favorite, the overall quality is much better. While the MSL has two titans, and a lot of cannon fodder.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
April 24 2010 19:44 GMT
#127
epic Flash vs Midas MSL finals anyone?
Jaester88
Profile Joined September 2009
United States143 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 20:02:39
April 24 2010 19:56 GMT
#128
edit: Oops, should read the thread before I post. >.<
RoyW
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Ireland270 Posts
April 24 2010 19:58 GMT
#129
On April 25 2010 04:56 Jaester88 wrote:
So in order of KeSPA ranking:

(T)Flash, (Z)Jaedong, (Z)Calm, free, (T)HiyA, (Z)great, (T)Midas, (T)MVP are still in the MSL.


Unless I'm mistaken, the brackets should be

(T)Flash vs (T)MVP
(P)free vs (T)HiyA

(Z)Calm vs (Z)great
(Z)Jaedong vs Midas



correct, previous page.
LuigiNMario
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
April 24 2010 21:19 GMT
#130
Wait wait, who's battling who in ro8's?
When there's Flash there's a way.
LuigiNMario
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
April 24 2010 21:19 GMT
#131
On April 25 2010 04:58 RoyW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2010 04:56 Jaester88 wrote:
So in order of KeSPA ranking:

(T)Flash, (Z)Jaedong, (Z)Calm, free, (T)HiyA, (Z)great, (T)Midas, (T)MVP are still in the MSL.


Unless I'm mistaken, the brackets should be

(T)Flash vs (T)MVP
(P)free vs (T)HiyA

(Z)Calm vs (Z)great
(Z)Jaedong vs Midas



correct, previous page.


o, thank you.
When there's Flash there's a way.
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
April 25 2010 01:03 GMT
#132
its interesting that MVP and Hiya were the two players to advance 2-0 i dont think anyone called that.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 25 2010 02:27 GMT
#133
Flash 2-0'd Hwasin, as well.

Though everyone called that.
Remember Violet.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 25 2010 10:24 GMT
#134
On April 24 2010 20:00 Holgerius wrote:
Oh lord, Flash vs MVP is gonna be so one-sided. XD Free vs Hiya and Jaedong vs Midas are both interesting match-ups with no super obvious favourite. And fuck ZvZ.


So Jaedong vs a player not named Flash in a BEST OF FIVE is not a super favourite to you? Looks like you haven't learned anything from the last final lol. JD in a bo5 is not the usual Jaedong.

And Midas is even a bo5 choker.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
April 25 2010 10:43 GMT
#135
Flash vs MVP is going to be a complete yawn/rape.

Jaedong vs Midas should be epic- JD's ZvT has been so up and down recently I don't think it will be easy for him.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 25 2010 11:10 GMT
#136
On April 25 2010 19:24 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 20:00 Holgerius wrote:
Oh lord, Flash vs MVP is gonna be so one-sided. XD Free vs Hiya and Jaedong vs Midas are both interesting match-ups with no super obvious favourite. And fuck ZvZ.


So Jaedong vs a player not named Flash in a BEST OF FIVE is not a super favourite to you? Looks like you haven't learned anything from the last final lol. JD in a bo5 is not the usual Jaedong.

And Midas is even a bo5 choker.

Nope, he's not super favourite in my eyes. He is a slight favourite due to the aspect you just mentioned; he has a history of kicking ass in Bo5's. But after the finals vs Flash his ZvT has been mediocre at best, losing like 50% of them and dropping games vs ACE players, while Midas has been showing some excellent performances. I don't believe in magic; Jaedong is not protected by some super natural spell, he is human and he is not guaranteed to win just because it's a Bo5. I hope it will be close and entertaining, maybe something along the lines of JD's 3-2 win vs Canata last year.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 25 2010 17:33 GMT
#137
On April 25 2010 20:10 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2010 19:24 SuperArc wrote:
On April 24 2010 20:00 Holgerius wrote:
Oh lord, Flash vs MVP is gonna be so one-sided. XD Free vs Hiya and Jaedong vs Midas are both interesting match-ups with no super obvious favourite. And fuck ZvZ.


So Jaedong vs a player not named Flash in a BEST OF FIVE is not a super favourite to you? Looks like you haven't learned anything from the last final lol. JD in a bo5 is not the usual Jaedong.

And Midas is even a bo5 choker.

Nope, he's not super favourite in my eyes. He is a slight favourite due to the aspect you just mentioned; he has a history of kicking ass in Bo5's. But after the finals vs Flash his ZvT has been mediocre at best, losing like 50% of them and dropping games vs ACE players, while Midas has been showing some excellent performances. I don't believe in magic; Jaedong is not protected by some super natural spell, he is human and he is not guaranteed to win just because it's a Bo5. I hope it will be close and entertaining, maybe something along the lines of JD's 3-2 win vs Canata last year.


You of all (football fan) should know that players play very differently under different circumstances.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
April 25 2010 17:52 GMT
#138
Some of the matchups are really terrible. Hopefully Calm can ride his ZvZ and free can edge out Hiya for the highest level semis possible.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
April 25 2010 19:33 GMT
#139
There has been a persistant pattern where Jaedong has these mini-slumps and barely manages to claw his way to the quarterfinals of one league; then he suddenly starts playing much better and winning the whole thing in a dominating fashion. Afterwards he goes in a mini-slump again and the whole thing repeats. For over a year now he has won at least one major league every season. If he falls in the current MSL, it would be the end of a phenomenal streak.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 25 2010 22:22 GMT
#140
MBC's new format for the Ro8 has entered its third (and last) season. The brackets from the Ro16 have been discontinued, and the matchups are now determined by KeSPA ranking. The matchups are a Bo5 format, with both players able to thumb down maps they do not want to see played twice.


What does it mean by "and last" season?
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
April 26 2010 05:47 GMT
#141
On April 25 2010 20:10 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2010 19:24 SuperArc wrote:
On April 24 2010 20:00 Holgerius wrote:
Oh lord, Flash vs MVP is gonna be so one-sided. XD Free vs Hiya and Jaedong vs Midas are both interesting match-ups with no super obvious favourite. And fuck ZvZ.


So Jaedong vs a player not named Flash in a BEST OF FIVE is not a super favourite to you? Looks like you haven't learned anything from the last final lol. JD in a bo5 is not the usual Jaedong.

And Midas is even a bo5 choker.

Nope, he's not super favourite in my eyes. He is a slight favourite due to the aspect you just mentioned; he has a history of kicking ass in Bo5's. But after the finals vs Flash his ZvT has been mediocre at best, losing like 50% of them and dropping games vs ACE players, while Midas has been showing some excellent performances. I don't believe in magic; Jaedong is not protected by some super natural spell, he is human and he is not guaranteed to win just because it's a Bo5. I hope it will be close and entertaining, maybe something along the lines of JD's 3-2 win vs Canata last year.


Personally I would never count JD out, and with full preparation, he can beast just about anyone. Bo5 flukes can be dealt against and solid play/mind games play a big role.
Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
May 09 2010 10:09 GMT
#142
who is playing semis?
TheDominator
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
New Zealand336 Posts
May 10 2010 06:32 GMT
#143
Bet that the finals will be JD vs flash...
You can go a long way with a smile. You can go a lot farther with a smile and a gun.
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
May 10 2010 06:48 GMT
#144
On May 10 2010 15:32 TheDominator wrote:
Bet that the finals will be JD vs flash...


It's pretty much certain, free and calm stand no chance. If free won Hiya 3:2, Flash is going to roll Free 3:0, and Jaedong is.... Jaedong.
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
May 10 2010 18:45 GMT
#145
I've checked the histories of both MSL and OSL and if Flash and Jaedong meet in the finals this time around it would be the first time the same two players meet in the finals of either league back to back.
Crt
Profile Joined November 2009
247 Posts
May 10 2010 19:05 GMT
#146
Calm is going to kick JD's a$$
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
May 10 2010 19:13 GMT
#147
On May 11 2010 03:45 amazingoopah wrote:
I've checked the histories of both MSL and OSL and if Flash and Jaedong meet in the finals this time around it would be the first time the same two players meet in the finals of either league back to back.


And rightfully, it's after MSL changes its format to reseed after every round.
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
May 11 2010 10:55 GMT
#148
so, when exactly are the semi finals?
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
May 12 2010 00:32 GMT
#149
On May 11 2010 19:55 CROrens wrote:
so, when exactly are the semi finals?


Free vs. Flash is tommorow.
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
May 16 2010 16:06 GMT
#150
when is semifinal B?
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 20 2010 18:41 GMT
#151
The Finals

(T)Flash < Triathlon > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Flash < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Flash < Match Point > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Flash < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Flash < Triathlon > (Z)Jaedong

(Z)Jaedong 0-0
(T)Flash 0-0
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
May 20 2010 20:15 GMT
#152
Hell, I wanted a 3-0 Jaedong.
Then we could've said that there'd have been four 3-0 semifinals...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 20 2010 20:23 GMT
#153
3-0 in rock paper scissors is tough
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 20 2010 21:53 GMT
#154
In this case it was rock-paper-scissors-5pool
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
May 20 2010 21:54 GMT
#155
I wish TvT was more rock-paper-scissors so you could make a rock-paper-scissors-nuke joke
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
May 20 2010 21:55 GMT
#156
Jaedong didn't thumb down Triathlon????

Also this is the first time EVER that there's been a finals with the exact same two players as last season.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 22:56:19
May 20 2010 22:49 GMT
#157
Jaedong''s winning streak is broken. At least we get some epic games in exchange.
Rofl @ canada cheers for Jaedong
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 20 2010 23:10 GMT
#158
[image loading]

VS

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GET HYPED
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 20 2010 23:25 GMT
#159
I don't like that the stupid, gimmicky map is played twice.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
May 22 2010 16:44 GMT
#160
On May 21 2010 08:25 Holgerius wrote:
I don't like that the stupid, gimmicky map is played twice.

Don't worry. Flash will do foolproof BBS and 1 base valks.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
May 23 2010 02:21 GMT
#161
And suddenly this just got a lot more interesting...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
May 23 2010 03:08 GMT
#162
Wtf, Triathlon is the one played twice?

T_T
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 24 2010 07:45 GMT
#163
I took Kim Carrier's advice to heart.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
awesomeopossum
Profile Joined February 2010
United States72 Posts
May 25 2010 02:27 GMT
#164
On May 24 2010 16:45 motbob wrote:
I took Kim Carrier's advice to heart.


You missed one...

+ Show Spoiler +
Match D
(T)Hwasin thumbed down Triathlon.


Also, I question whether this is the best course of action. It won't be easy to wipe their histories clear, and is it even desirable? They have already turned their success into shame, so erasing some records isn't likely to blacken their reputations any further. In fact, the renown of the players involved is what makes this scandal so abhorrent. Why remove such a key element from the story?
we can plant a house, we can build a tree
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 25 2010 03:09 GMT
#165
I'm not wiping their histories clear. I'm wiping this R&S thread clear. This is an individual action and doesn't reflect a concerted effort on the part of TL.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
stambe
Profile Joined May 2005
Bulgaria492 Posts
May 25 2010 20:31 GMT
#166
On May 25 2010 11:27 awesomeopossum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 16:45 motbob wrote:
I took Kim Carrier's advice to heart.


You missed one...

+ Show Spoiler +
Match D
(T)Hwasin thumbed down Triathlon.


Also, I question whether this is the best course of action. It won't be easy to wipe their histories clear, and is it even desirable? They have already turned their success into shame, so erasing some records isn't likely to blacken their reputations any further. In fact, the renown of the players involved is what makes this scandal so abhorrent. Why remove such a key element from the story?


At first when i saw the history of MSL and saw Chojja > ???? i was WTF who is ???? and how TL staff don't know that. And in the next moment i was - omg am i stupid or what :[
Valks rulzz
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8099 Posts
May 25 2010 23:23 GMT
#167
thats dumb you should still put em back in. R&S threads are history threads, I learned so much about the history of MSL/OSL through them. you shouldnt ruin it for future readers.
Free Palestine
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
May 26 2010 00:14 GMT
#168
On May 26 2010 08:23 Ideas wrote:
thats dumb you should still put em back in. R&S threads are history threads, I learned so much about the history of MSL/OSL through them. you shouldnt ruin it for future readers.

+1
grax
Profile Joined June 2009
United States41 Posts
May 26 2010 22:38 GMT
#169
On May 25 2010 12:09 motbob wrote:
I'm not wiping their histories clear. I'm wiping this R&S thread clear. This is an individual action and doesn't reflect a concerted effort on the part of TL.


Savior and Luxury won those tournaments. Please don't write your own personal history.
Oai
Profile Joined July 2009
United States40 Posts
May 27 2010 01:11 GMT
#170
I would say, not to erase their names, but like in the after talk thing, they said that erasing their names isn't good enough. They said instead, they should have crosses over their names or something, saying that these guys are fricking match fixing bastards. So it's not that they're forgotten, but they're remembered to be cheaters. Like the Scarlet Letter.
grax
Profile Joined June 2009
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 02:14:53
May 27 2010 02:14 GMT
#171
Savior won those MSLs, whether you like him or not. If Nada turned out to be a baby-eating Nazi, he would still be a triple MSL/OSL winner.

The match-fixing simply isn't relevant to Savior's and Luxury's MSL wins. Photoshop a fecal smear on your Ma Jae Yoon desktop if it makes you feel better, but don't take a shit on TL.net by re-writing history wherever you can.
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 05:49:09
May 27 2010 05:48 GMT
#172
hope you have a nice catharsis but please put the names up when you are not as mad for future fans....
in The Kong line forever
khy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States475 Posts
May 27 2010 07:26 GMT
#173
Dunno if I can say so, but I just saw an ad during the MST prelims for the finals. Says the venue is Koryo University? Can anyone confirm?
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
May 27 2010 14:49 GMT
#174
i have an idea write their names in the OP but don't link the TLPD page to their name
that sort of demotes them
Nony is Bonjwa
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 15:42:36
May 27 2010 15:09 GMT
#175
I'm not changing this thread, but I won't completely remove their names in the next R&S thread. I'll cross them out or something.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
May 27 2010 17:20 GMT
#176
On May 27 2010 16:26 Darrun wrote:
Dunno if I can say so, but I just saw an ad during the MST prelims for the finals. Says the venue is Koryo University? Can anyone confirm?



some guy in another thread said the same, so you can pretty much count on it
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
May 27 2010 17:34 GMT
#177
On May 28 2010 00:09 motbob wrote:
I'm not changing this thread, but I won't completely remove their names in the next R&S thread. I'll cross them out or something.

I'm kinda glad you've taken a stand, I think most people should be carrying the names through the dirt as the default, rather the exception.

The 9 are scum, and should be treated as such.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8099 Posts
May 27 2010 18:34 GMT
#178
On May 28 2010 00:09 motbob wrote:
I'm not changing this thread, but I won't completely remove their names in the next R&S thread. I'll cross them out or something.


quit being a 12 year old and put em back. I don't care if you scratch em out now or un-TLPD them or something but you're just being juvenile.

Free Palestine
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 19:08:04
May 27 2010 19:07 GMT
#179
On May 28 2010 03:34 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2010 00:09 motbob wrote:
I'm not changing this thread, but I won't completely remove their names in the next R&S thread. I'll cross them out or something.


quit being a 12 year old and put em back. I don't care if you scratch em out now or un-TLPD them or something but you're just being juvenile.


There is not much difference between crossing out a name permanently and eliminating it temporarily. Both are symbolic gestures.

It would be nice if you did not insult me again. Further up this page, you asked me to make progaming history available for future readers. I made that concession by promising to put the names back in in future threads.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
ndralcasid
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States524 Posts
May 27 2010 19:27 GMT
#180
C'mon now, let's not turn this into something like WWE did with Chris Benoit.

Whatever you think about them now, does not change the fact that Savior and Luxury won those seasons and were indeed the best at the time those MSL's were played. Trying to rewrite history is just stupid.
I aint crying over some daggone danishes
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
May 27 2010 19:38 GMT
#181
On May 28 2010 04:07 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2010 03:34 Ideas wrote:
On May 28 2010 00:09 motbob wrote:
I'm not changing this thread, but I won't completely remove their names in the next R&S thread. I'll cross them out or something.


quit being a 12 year old and put em back. I don't care if you scratch em out now or un-TLPD them or something but you're just being juvenile.


There is not much difference between crossing out a name permanently and eliminating it temporarily. Both are symbolic gestures.

It would be nice if you did not insult me again. Further up this page, you asked me to make progaming history available for future readers. I made that concession by promising to put the names back in in future threads.


I support putting their names in red+crossing them out of future posts.
the after-talk was right where in all of the hall-of-fame style places they should still BE there, just with a red X through them and a statement about what they did, disgracing them.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2010 19:45 GMT
#182
On May 28 2010 04:27 ndralcasid wrote:
C'mon now, let's not turn this into something like WWE did with Chris Benoit.

Whatever you think about them now, does not change the fact that Savior and Luxury won those seasons and were indeed the best at the time those MSL's were played. Trying to rewrite history is just stupid.

Pete Rose is not in the Hall of Fame. Is the commissioner trying to "rewrite history" by keeping him ineligible?

Damaging the integrity of the game attracts repercussions in this sport and in other sports.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
May 27 2010 19:50 GMT
#183
On May 28 2010 04:45 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2010 04:27 ndralcasid wrote:
C'mon now, let's not turn this into something like WWE did with Chris Benoit.

Whatever you think about them now, does not change the fact that Savior and Luxury won those seasons and were indeed the best at the time those MSL's were played. Trying to rewrite history is just stupid.

Pete Rose is not in the Hall of Fame. Is the commissioner trying to "rewrite history" by keeping him ineligible?

Damaging the integrity of the game attracts repercussions in this sport and in other sports.


Pete Rose is still in the record books and the World Series that the Reds won with him are still there too.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
May 27 2010 20:03 GMT
#184
I just wanna say it's really unfair for not writing savior's name on the history wins. He won by talent and skill back then and the fact that he damaged the image of korean progamming doesn't have anything to do with it.

Your basicly offending all the players that got defeated by him in those msl's and CJ team.

I didn't like what savior did but you can't wipe history, it would only make things worse.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 08:14:30
May 27 2010 20:03 GMT
#185
Saving this for future reference

If you wanna see non censored version of OP then click spoiler. Includes names that are missing (????? names added)

+ Show Spoiler [HANA BANK MSL RESULTS AND STANDINGS] +

On March 31 2010 09:05 motbob wrote:
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+ Show Spoiler [Alternate Banner] +
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Format by semioldguy.


HANA BANK MSL RESULTS AND STANDINGS


The History

KPGA 1st Tour (2/14/02 - 4/14/02) - (T)BoxeR > (Z)YellOw
Reebok KPGA 2nd Tour (4/18/02 - 6/22/02) - (T)NaDa > (Z)YellOw
Pepsi Twist KPGA 3rd Tour (7/4/02 - 10/5/02) - (T)NaDa > (P)Reach
Baskin Robbins KPGA 4th Tour (10/25/02 - 1/18/03) - (T)NaDa > (Z)ChoJJa
Stout MSL (4/17/03 - 7/19/03) - (P)Nal_rA > (T)NaDa (Teamliquid Article)
TriGem MSL (9/4/03 - 11/6/03) - (T)iloveoov > (Z)YellOw (Teamliquid Article)
HanaFOS CENGAME MSL (1/8/04 - 4/18/04) - (T)iloveoov > (T)NaDa (Teamliquid Article)
SPRIS MSL (5/20/04 - 8/29/04) - (T)iloveoov > (P)Kingdom (Teamliquid Article)
You Are the Golf King MSL (9/30/04 - 2/6/05) - (Z)GoRush > (T)NaDa (Teamliquid Article)
UZOO MSL (4/21/05 - 8/6/05) - (Z)sAviOr > (P)Reach (Teamliquid Article)
LG CYON MSL (10/6/05 - 1/14/06) - (Z)ChoJJa > (Z)sAviOr (Teamliquid Article)
Pringles 1 MSL (4/6/06 - 7/16/06) - (Z)sAviOr > (P)Nal_rA (Teamliquid Article)
Pringles 2 MSL (8/17/06 - 11/11/06) - (Z)sAviOr > (Z)Silver (Teamliquid Article)
GomTV MSL (11/30/06 - 3/3/07) - (P)Bisu > (Z)sAviOr (Teamliquid Article)
GomTV2 MSL (5/3/07 - 7/14/07) - (P)Bisu > (P)Stork (Teamliquid Article)
GomTV3 MSL (9/13/07 - 11/17/07) - (T)Mind > (P)Bisu (Teamliquid Article)
GomTV4 MSL (1/3/08 - 3/8/08) - (Z)Jaedong > (P)Kal (Teamliquid Article)
Arena MSL (5/1/08 - 7/26/08) - (T)fOrGG > (Z)Jaedong (Teamliquid Article)
ClubDay Online MSL (9/18/08 - 11/16/08) - (P)Bisu > (P)JangBi (Teamliquid Article)
Lost Saga MSL (1/15/09 - 3/20/09) - (Z)Luxury > (P)JangBi (Teamliquid Article)
Avalon MSL (7/11/09 - 8/30/09) - (Z)Calm > (Z)Kwanro (Teamliquid Article)
Nate MSL (11/26/09 - 1/23/10) - (Z)Jaedong > (T)Flash (Teamliquid Article)


The Players

Terran - The Pride of War (10)
#2 Seed (T)Flash - 이영호 - Lee Yung Ho
#6 Seed (T)Hwasin - 진영수 - Jin Yung Soo
#7 Seed (T)Light - 이재호 - Lee Jae Ho

(T)Sea - 염보성 - Yum Bo Sung
(T)Midas - 전상욱 - Jun Sang Wook
(T)BaBy - 전태양 - Jun Tae Yang
(T)MVP - 정종현 - Jeong Jong Hyeon
(T)fantasy - 정명훈 - Jung Myung Hoon
(T)Mind - 박성균 - Park Sung Gyoon
(T)HiyA - 구성훈 - Ku Sung Hoon

Zerg – Overcome All (12)
#1 Seed (Z)Jaedong - 이제동 - Lee Je Dong
#3 Seed (Z)Kwanro - 한상봉 - Han Sang Bong

(Z)ZerO - 김명운 - Kim Myung Woon
(Z)Hyuk - 박재혁 - Park Jae Hyuk
(Z)FireFist - 김재춘 - Kim Jae Choon
(Z)July - 박성준 - Park Sung Joon
(Z)Calm - 김윤환 - Kim Yoon Hwan
(Z)great - 차명환 - Cha Myung Hwan
(Z)Hydra - 신동원 - Shin Dong Won
(Z)Action - 김성대 - Kim Seong Dae
(Z)Yellow[ArnC - 박명수 - Park Myung Soo
(Z)HyuN - 고석현 - Ko Seok Hyun

Protoss – Victory After Victory (10)
#4 Seed (P)Kal - 김구현 - Kim Ku Hyun
#5 Seed (P)BeSt - 도재욱 - Doh Jae Wook
#8 Seed (P)Stats - 김대엽 - Kim Dae Yeob

(P)Bisu - 김택용 - Kim Taek Yong
(P)JangBi - 허영무 - Hu Yung Moo
(P)Movie - 진영화 - Jin Young Hwa
(P)Stork - 송병구 - Song Byung Goo
(P)Pure - 박세정 - Park Sae Jung
(P)Shuttle - 김윤중 - Kim Yoon Joong
(P)free[gm] - 윤용태 - Yoon Yong Tae

+ Show Spoiler [Still in the MSL] +
Terran - The Pride of War
#2 Seed (T)Flash - 이영호 - Lee Yung Ho
#6 Seed (T)Hwasin - 진영수 - Jin Yung Soo
#7 Seed (T)Light - 이재호 - Lee Jae Ho
(T)Sea - 염보성 - Yum Bo Sung
(T)Midas - 전상욱 - Jun Sang Wook
(T)BaBy - 전태양 - Jun Tae Yang
(T)MVP - 정종현 - Jeong Jong Hyeon
(T)fantasy - 정명훈 - Jung Myung Hoon
(T)Mind - 박성균 - Park Sung Gyoon
(T)HiyA - 구성훈 - Ku Sung Hoon

Zerg – Overcome All
#1 Seed (Z)Jaedong - 이제동 - Lee Je Dong
#3 Seed (Z)Kwanro - 한상봉 - Han Sang Bong
(Z)ZerO - 김명운 - Kim Myung Woon
(Z)Hyuk - 박재혁 - Park Jae Hyuk
(Z)FireFist - 김재춘 - Kim Jae Choon
(Z)July - 박성준 - Park Sung Joon
(Z)Calm - 김윤환 - Kim Yoon Hwan
(Z)great - 차명환 - Cha Myung Hwan
(Z)Hydra - 신동원 - Shin Dong Won
(Z)Action - 김성대 - Kim Seong Dae
(Z)YellOw[ArnC] - 박명수 - Park Myung Soo
(Z)HyuN - 고석현 - Ko Seok Hyun

Protoss – Victory After Victory
#4 Seed (P)Kal - 김구현 - Kim Ku Hyun
#5 Seed (P)BeSt - 도재욱 - Doh Jae Wook
#8 Seed (P)Stats - 김대엽 - Kim Dae Yeob
(P)Bisu - 김택용 - Kim Taek Yong
(P)JangBi - 허영무 - Hu Yung Moo
(P)Movie - 진영화 - Jin Young Hwa
(P)Stork - 송병구 - Song Byung Goo
(P)Pure - 박세정 - Park Sae Jung
(P)Shuttle - 김윤중 - Kim Yoon Joong
(P)free[gm] - 윤용태 - Yoon Yong Tae

Team Distribution:

STX SouL (5): (T)Hwasin, (Z)July, (Z)Calm, (P)Kal, (P)Shuttle
SK Telecom T1 (4): (T)fantasy, (Z)Hyuk, (P)BeSt, (P)Bisu
Woongjin Stars (4): (T)MVP, (Z)Kwanro, (Z)ZerO, (P)free[gm]
WeMade FOX (4): (T)Midas, (T)Mind, (T)BaBy, (P)Pure
KT Rolster (3): (T)Flash, (Z)FireFist, (P)Stats
MBCGame HERO (3): (T)Light, (T)Sea, (Z)HyuN
Samsung KHAN (3): (Z)great, (P)JangBi, (P)Stork
CJ Entus (2): (Z)Hydra, (P)Movie
Hwaseung OZ (2): (T)HiyA, (Z)Jaedong
eSTRO (1): (Z)Action
hite SPARKYZ (1): (Z)Yellow[ArnC]
Air Force ACE (0):

How they got this far:
2010 MBC Survivor Tournament S1 (by heyoka)

The Maps

Match Point
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Odd-Eye 2
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Fighting Spirit
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Triathlon
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The News

Survivor Recap and Ro32 Preview
Ro32 Recap and Ro16 Preview
Ro16 Recap and Ro8 Preview
Ro8 Recap and Ro4 Preview


The Live Reports

Ro32 Group A
Ro32 Group F
Ro32 Group D
Ro32 Group E
Ro32 Group C
Ro32 Group G
Ro32 Group B
Ro32 Group H
Ro16 Day 1
Ro16 Day 2
Ro16 Day 3
Ro16 Day 4
Ro8 Day 1
Ro8 Day 2
Ro8 Day 3
Semifinal A
Semifinal B


The Group Selection

Group Selection Discussion Thread


Results and Standings for the Round of 32

Once again we return to a group stage for the round of thirty-two. Each group consists of four players; the group selection event determines their placement in each group. Each group must go through a double elimination format to determine which players will advance and which players are eliminated. If a player can get two wins before he gets two losses, then he advances to the next round. If he can’t, then he is eliminated. Two players from each group of four will have the chance to continue to fight for this season’s title.

Group A
1. (T)BaBy 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (Z)Jaedong 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (Z)July 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (Z)Hyuk 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (Z)Jaedong < Triathlon > (T)BaBy
Game 2: (Z)Hyuk < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)July
Winners: (T)BaBy < Match Point > (Z)July
Losers: (Z)Hyuk < Match Point > (Z)Jaedong
Finals: (Z)Jaedong < Fighting Spirit > (Z)July

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDYGwwnkehA

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig2gEFkWxF8

Winners:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmKAn3jPuVQ

Losers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQgwWmYtpPI

Final:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh41ZppO3-I

Group B
1. (T)Midas 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (T)Flash 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (Z)Action 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (Z)HyuN 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (T)Flash < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)Midas
Game 2: (Z)HyuN < Match Point > (Z)Action
Winners: (Z)Action < Fighting Spirit > (T)Midas
Losers: (T)Flash < Fighting Spirit > (Z)HyuN
Finals: (Z)Action < Triathlon > (T)Flash

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2icV1Ql-NcE

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGWqMk-ayGA

Winners:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjixHUXxleE

Losers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tHvHAFH78Q

Final:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNuMGxJ45js

Group C
1. (T)Sea 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (T)fantasy 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (Z)Kwanro 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (T)Mind 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (Z)Kwanro < Match Point > (T)fantasy
Game 2: (T)Mind < Fighting Spirit > (T)Sea
Winners: (Z)Kwanro < Triathlon > (T)Sea
Losers: (T)Mind < Triathlon > (T)fantasy
Finals: (Z)Kwanro < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)fantasy

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TldzqfPQE04

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T15W4TPyBzk

Winners:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTaVp0Kcnto

Losers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTWEyUaIE7k

Final:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMmRQoV5v7g

Group D
1. (Z)great 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (T)HiyA 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (P)Kal 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (Z)Yellow[ArnC] 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (P)Kal < Fighting Spirit > (Z)great
Game 2: (T)HiyA < Triathlon > (Z)Yellow[ArnC]
Winners: (T)HiyA < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)great
Losers: (Z)Yellow[ArnC] < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)Kal
Finals: (T)HiyA < Match Point > (P)Kal

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjbqlf9pDD4

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_VE11kz_E4

Winners:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtgiQ6eDaWg

Losers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOKJdTKVu4Y

Final:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAuz9yVXMxg

Group E
1. (Z)Hydra 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (T)MVP 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (P)BeSt 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (P)Stork 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (P)BeSt < Triathlon > (T)MVP
Game 2: (Z)Hydra < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)Stork
Winners: (Z)Hydra < Match Point > (P)BeSt
Losers: (T)MVP < Match Point > (P)Stork
Finals: (T)MVP < Fighting Spirit > (P)BeSt

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8SNKKDH9eo

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBi6wzZnMi8

Winners:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hG7T9erN0A

Losers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6NODQwUgeI

Final:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXfyfHfdlYw

Group F
1. (T)Hwasin 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (P)JangBi 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (Z)ZerO 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (Z)FireFist 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (T)Hwasin < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)FireFist
Game 2: (Z)ZerO < Match Point > (P)JangBi
Winners: (Z)ZerO < Fighting Spirit > (T)Hwasin
Losers: (Z)FireFist < Fighting Spirit > (P)JangBi
Finals: (P)JangBi < Triathlon > (Z)ZerO

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zOsYM5PzoM

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVtZC5YUcDo

Winners:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NeDFdXRz1E

Losers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6Xk5vZJwm4

Final:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eJbILmxRrQ

Group G
1. (Z)Calm 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (P)free 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (P)Pure 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (T)Light 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (T)Light < Match Point > (P)Pure
Game 2: (Z)Calm < Fighting Spirit > (P)free
Winners: (P)Pure < Triathlon > (Z)Calm
Losers: (T)Light < Triathlon > (P)free
Finals: (P)Pure < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)free

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8wqMcrMx6M

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQuQloizDs0

Winners:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGV7k1mX-i0

Losers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WrlDhSOwzg

Final:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADIQUnuwUBQ

Group H
1. (P)Shuttle 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (P)Movie 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (P)Bisu 1-2 ► eliminated
4. (P)Stats 0-2 ► eliminated

Game 1: (P)Stats < Fighting Spirit > (P)Shuttle
Game 2: (P)Movie < Triathlon > (P)Bisu
Winners: (P)Bisu < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)Shuttle
Losers: (P)Stats < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)Movie
Finals: (P)Movie < Match Point > (P)Bisu

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMQo1wTWqOw

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv3HwnIPrzA

Winners:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP7Rq5G8f8w

Losers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-TqRVdA5g4

Final:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK9VidITIBI



Results and Standings for the Round of 16

The number of remaining competitors has been halved as the tournament continues into the Round of 16. Beginning with this round, the tournament becomes single elimination. The players who finished first out of their groups last round will be paired against a player that finished in second. Each pair of players will play a best-of-three match to determine not only who will advance to the next round, but who will earn seeds into the following MSL.

Thumbs Down
Since there are four maps, there will be one map in each best-of-three match that will not be played. The players who finished first out of their group are given the opportunity to give a “thumbs down” to one of the maps. What this means is that the player will get to choose one of the four maps that he will not have to play on during this round. This allows the player the advantage of getting to remove a map that does not fit his play style or that he thinks may be imbalanced in a particular match-up.

Match A
(T)BaBy thumbed down Triathlon.

Game 1: (T)BaBy < Match Point > (T)MVP
Game 2: (T)BaBy < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)MVP
Game 3: (T)BaBy < Fighting Spirit > (T)MVP

(T)MVP 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 8
(T)BaBy 0-2 ► eliminated

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S_PdfRI174

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvkaVHBSUls

Match B
(Z)Hydra thumbed down Triathlon.

Game 1: (Z)Hydra < Match Point > (Z)Jaedong
Game 2: (Z)Hydra < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Jaedong
Game 3: (Z)Hydra < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Jaedong

(Z)Jaedong 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 8
(Z)Hydra 1-2 ► eliminated

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-JCaOnWxpg

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGT36U4dklE

Game 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAgs8bg-GWQ

Match C
(T)Midas thumbed down Triathlon.

Game 1: (T)Midas < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)JangBi
Game 2: (T)Midas < Fighting Spirit > (P)JangBi
Game 3: (T)Midas < Match Point > (P)JangBi

(T)Midas
2-1 ► Advances to Round of 8
(P)JangBi 1-2 ► eliminated

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7BKAW6hovw

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRr4u4WM7mA

Game 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh2yacJVQD0

Match D
(T)Hwasin thumbed down Triathlon.

Game 1: (T)Hwasin < Match Point > (T)Flash
Game 2: (T)Hwasin < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)Flash
Game 3: (T)Hwasin < Fighting Spirit > (T)Flash

(T)Flash 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 8
(T)Hwasin 0-2 ► eliminated

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_yfd43edMM

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGzwECeTpJU

Match E
(T)Sea thumbed down Triathlon.

Game 1: (T)Sea < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)free
Game 2: (T)Sea < Match Point > (P)free
Game 3: (T)Sea < Fighting Spirit > (P)free

(P)free 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 8
(T)Sea 1-2 ► eliminated

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzst8WdktI

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ttLZacICo

Game 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG90uak3e7U

Match F
(Z)Calm thumbed down Triathlon.

Game 1: (Z)Calm < Match Point > (T)fantasy
Game 2: (Z)Calm < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)fantasy
Game 3: (Z)Calm < Fighting Spirit > (T)fantasy

(Z)Calm 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 8
(T)fantasy 1-2 ► eliminated

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HIV-xDT6OY

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmXxB1uc6Mg

Game 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWUxl_ZF_0s

Match G
(Z)great thumbed down Triathlon.

Game 1: (Z)great < Fighting Spirit > (P)Movie
Game 2: (Z)great < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)Movie
Game 3: (Z)great < Match Point > (P)Movie

(Z)great 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 8
(P)Movie 1-2 ► eliminated

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytRXO84-JUs

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9_ltMBvaIc

Game 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM9mgKl5vhs

Match H
(P)Shuttle thumbed down Fighting Spirit.

Game 1: (P)Shuttle < Match Point > (T)HiyA
Game 2: (P)Shuttle < > (T)HiyA
Game 3: (P)Shuttle < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)HiyA

(T)HiyA 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 8
(P)Shuttle 0-2 ► eliminated

+ Show Spoiler [VODs] +
Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_JMbzoKqAc

Game 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz5Q4XtfGSQ


Results and Standings for the Round of 8

MBC's new format for the Ro8 has entered its third (and last) season. The brackets from the Ro16 have been discontinued, and the matchups are now determined by KeSPA ranking. The matchups are a Bo5 format, with both players able to thumb down maps they do not want to see played twice.

Match A

Game 1: (T)Flash < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)MVP
Game 2: (T)Flash < Match Point > (T)MVP
Game 3: (T)Flash < Triathlon > (T)MVP
Game 4: (T)Flash < Fighting Spirit > (T)MVP
Game 5: (T)Flash < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)MVP

(T)Flash 3-1 ► Advances to Semifinals
(T)MVP 1-3 ► eliminated

Match B

Game 1: (P)free < Fighting Spirit > (T)HiyA
Game 2: (P)free < Odd-Eye 2 > (T)HiyA
Game 3: (P)free < Match Point > (T)HiyA
Game 4: (P)free < Triathlon > (T)HiyA
Game 5: (P)free < Fighting Spirit > (T)HiyA

(P)free 0-0 ► Advances to Semifinals
(T)HiyA 0-0 ► eliminated

Match C

Game 1: (Z)great < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Calm
Game 2: (Z)great < Match Point > (Z)Calm
Game 3: (Z)great < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Calm
Game 4: (Z)great < Triathlon > (Z)Calm
Game 5: (Z)great < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Calm

(Z)Calm 3-2 ► Advances to Semifinals
(Z)great 2-3 ► eliminated

Match D

Game 1: (T)Midas < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Jaedong
Game 2: (T)Midas < Triathlon > (Z)Jaedong
Game 3: (T)Midas < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Jaedong
Game 4: (T)Midas < Match Point > (Z)Jaedong
Game 5: (T)Midas < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Jaedong


(Z)Jaedong 3-0 ► Advances to Semifinals
(T)Midas 0-3 ► eliminated


The Semifinals

Match A

(T)Flash < Match Point > (P)free
(T)Flash < Triathlon > (P)free
(T)Flash < Fighting Spirit > (P)free
(T)Flash < Odd-Eye 2 > (P)free
(T)Flash < Match Point > (P)free


(T)Flash 3-0 ► Advances to Finals
(P)free 0-3 ► eliminated

Match B

(Z)Jaedong < Match Point > (Z)Calm
(Z)Jaedong < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Calm
(Z)Jaedong < Triathlon > (Z)Calm
(Z)Jaedong < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Calm
(Z)Jaedong < Match Point > (Z)Calm

(Z)Jaedong 3-1 ► Advances to Finals
(Z)Calm 1-3 ► eliminated


The Finals

(T)Flash < Triathlon > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Flash < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Flash < Match Point > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Flash < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Flash < Triathlon > (Z)Jaedong


(T)Flash 3-0 ► GOLD
(Z)Jaedong 0-3 ► silver

The Miscellaneous





That should be okey for everyone and functions as backup too (if some mysteries way OP decides to remove post or account gets hacked). I think there should be backups rest of [R&S] threads too, unless tl.net has good backups.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 20:08:29
May 27 2010 20:04 GMT
#186
On May 28 2010 04:50 jalstar wrote:
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On May 28 2010 04:45 motbob wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:27 ndralcasid wrote:
C'mon now, let's not turn this into something like WWE did with Chris Benoit.

Whatever you think about them now, does not change the fact that Savior and Luxury won those seasons and were indeed the best at the time those MSL's were played. Trying to rewrite history is just stupid.

Pete Rose is not in the Hall of Fame. Is the commissioner trying to "rewrite history" by keeping him ineligible?

Damaging the integrity of the game attracts repercussions in this sport and in other sports.


Pete Rose is still in the record books and the World Series that the Reds won with him are still there too.

And you can still click the R&S threads for the three MSLs Savior won and his name is still there as the winner.

Why am I even arguing about this? I've already said I'm going to put the names back after the season. I am doing what I am doing and you are not going to convince me otherwise with rhetoric about being "juvenile" or trying to "rewrite history" or turning the R&S thread into "something like WWE."

EDIT: Too_MuchZerg, at least spoiler that so that you don't mess up the page.
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trulla
Profile Joined February 2010
Chile303 Posts
May 27 2010 23:36 GMT
#187
when are the finals?
Sea[Shield] !!
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
May 28 2010 00:16 GMT
#188
As of this post, in 31 hours and 44 minutes.
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
May 28 2010 00:16 GMT
#189
In exactly 1 day and 7 hours. Early morning Saturday EST.
WWJDD??
trulla
Profile Joined February 2010
Chile303 Posts
May 28 2010 00:21 GMT
#190
ty!
Sea[Shield] !!
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
May 28 2010 01:52 GMT
#191
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GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
May 28 2010 02:47 GMT
#192
flash thumbs down match point btw
no surprise
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-28 03:19:19
May 28 2010 03:17 GMT
#193
Throwing in the 2 cents.. (don't really care what you do since it's something minor anyways )

It seems pointless to "?????" the names in a thread specifically designated for R&S. Results and standings should just be results and standings. Not for punishing or blacklisting the cheaters. As it doesn't really punish them at all and just annoys forum regs + newbies who just want to look at the MSL history. Taking down Savior or Luxury's MSL or OSL picture is one thing, but you can't (and OGN/MBC can't) say "oh yeah no one won Lost Saga, Jangbi just got a silver." There's other ways to show your anger/displeasure/disapproval/whatever.

Put a line through them or something or [X]Savior(Confirmed Cheater) which gives the same effect while still actually fulfilling the role of a R&S thread.
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My argument is just based off the principle of a RS.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8099 Posts
May 28 2010 03:22 GMT
#194
On May 28 2010 12:17 Vasoline73 wrote:
Throwing in the 2 cents.. (don't really care what you do since it's something minor anyways )

It seems pointless to "?????" the names in a thread specifically designated for R&S. Results and standings should just be results and standings. Not for punishing or blacklisting the cheaters. As it doesn't really punish them at all and just annoys forum regs + newbies who just want to look at the MSL history. Taking down Savior or Luxury's MSL or OSL picture is one thing, but you can't (and OGN/MBC can't) say "oh yeah no one won Lost Saga, Jangbi just got a silver." There's other ways to show your anger/displeasure/disapproval/whatever.

Put a line through them or something or [X]Savior(Confirmed Cheater) which gives the same effect while still actually fulfilling the role of a R&S thread.
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My argument is just based off the principle of a RS.


qft

you're not punishing hwasin/lux/savior/yarnc at all, you're just making it harder for people to follow the thread.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
May 28 2010 04:14 GMT
#195
On May 28 2010 02:34 Kerotan wrote:
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On May 28 2010 00:09 motbob wrote:
I'm not changing this thread, but I won't completely remove their names in the next R&S thread. I'll cross them out or something.

I'm kinda glad you've taken a stand, I think most people should be carrying the names through the dirt as the default, rather the exception.

The 9 are scum, and should be treated as such.



Yea yea blah blah blah blah

Savior still won those tournaments and whether you like it or not was still an extraordinarily skilled player. Period...the end.
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grax
Profile Joined June 2009
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-28 05:16:42
May 28 2010 05:12 GMT
#196
On May 28 2010 05:04 motbob wrote:
Why am I even arguing about this? I've already said I'm going to put the names back after the season. I am doing what I am doing and you are not going to convince me otherwise with rhetoric about being "juvenile" or trying to "rewrite history" or turning the R&S thread into "something like WWE."


You could just go write the names Savior & Luxury on the sidewalk and then stomp on them really hard with your shoes of righteousness, and then take pictures so the internet can see that those players have made you so upset that you don't even want to be rational anymore.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-28 05:25:58
May 28 2010 05:22 GMT
#197
On May 28 2010 14:12 grax wrote:
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On May 28 2010 05:04 motbob wrote:
Why am I even arguing about this? I've already said I'm going to put the names back after the season. I am doing what I am doing and you are not going to convince me otherwise with rhetoric about being "juvenile" or trying to "rewrite history" or turning the R&S thread into "something like WWE."


Then get comfortable with the idea that anyone with an ounce of taste and intelligence thinks your actions put you somewhere on the Child <-> Joe McCarthy spectrum.

OK. Let's take a look at what makes you so qualified to make statements about maturity. First, let's take a look at your posts during the OSL finals:

On May 22 2010 20:10 grax wrote:
Flash's monitor wins game 1.
On May 22 2010 20:36 grax wrote:
Really wish Flash was the one to beat Effort in this series, instead of computer hardware.
On May 22 2010 20:46 grax wrote:
Good news: Flash's victory is hollow since Effort hasn't been able to concentrate after what happened.
On May 22 2010 20:49 grax wrote:
It was really obvious that mutas were baiting Flash's army into hold-lurkers. Don't have to be a pro-gamer to read that. Flash's play is standard attack-move gameplay, Effort's not playing properly since he was robbed of game 1.
On May 22 2010 21:01 grax wrote:
Really sad that you can get a golden mouse for building lots of marines, clumping them up, and attack-moving. If someone gets an advantage on you, just fake a monitor malfunction.


What interesting insight! You really did a good job of clinging to the idea that EffOrt was doomed, not because of his skill, but because of things like monitors and the nature of the Terran race.

Let's take a look at a few more of your posts.

On May 23 2010 20:12 grax wrote:
So many drama queens in this thread.

Anyone who would stop watching BW over this needs to pull his head out of his ass.


I like your style! Forceful, yet condescending.

On February 26 2010 21:49 grax wrote:
This article is bunk. The 'bonjwas' of the past were not as untouchable as people (including the author) like to pretend.

It's nice to know that you know the history of SC:BW better than TLFE writers.

Anyway, thanks for your feedback on my R&S thread!

Whoops, you edited your post too slow. Tough luck!
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8099 Posts
May 28 2010 06:07 GMT
#198
On May 28 2010 14:22 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2010 14:12 grax wrote:
On May 28 2010 05:04 motbob wrote:
Why am I even arguing about this? I've already said I'm going to put the names back after the season. I am doing what I am doing and you are not going to convince me otherwise with rhetoric about being "juvenile" or trying to "rewrite history" or turning the R&S thread into "something like WWE."


Then get comfortable with the idea that anyone with an ounce of taste and intelligence thinks your actions put you somewhere on the Child <-> Joe McCarthy spectrum.

OK. Let's take a look at what makes you so qualified to make statements about maturity. First, let's take a look at your posts during the OSL finals:

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 20:10 grax wrote:
Flash's monitor wins game 1.
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 20:36 grax wrote:
Really wish Flash was the one to beat Effort in this series, instead of computer hardware.
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 20:46 grax wrote:
Good news: Flash's victory is hollow since Effort hasn't been able to concentrate after what happened.
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 20:49 grax wrote:
It was really obvious that mutas were baiting Flash's army into hold-lurkers. Don't have to be a pro-gamer to read that. Flash's play is standard attack-move gameplay, Effort's not playing properly since he was robbed of game 1.
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 21:01 grax wrote:
Really sad that you can get a golden mouse for building lots of marines, clumping them up, and attack-moving. If someone gets an advantage on you, just fake a monitor malfunction.


What interesting insight! You really did a good job of clinging to the idea that EffOrt was doomed, not because of his skill, but because of things like monitors and the nature of the Terran race.

Let's take a look at a few more of your posts.

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2010 20:12 grax wrote:
So many drama queens in this thread.

Anyone who would stop watching BW over this needs to pull his head out of his ass.


I like your style! Forceful, yet condescending.

Show nested quote +
On February 26 2010 21:49 grax wrote:
This article is bunk. The 'bonjwas' of the past were not as untouchable as people (including the author) like to pretend.

It's nice to know that you know the history of SC:BW better than TLFE writers.

Anyway, thanks for your feedback on my R&S thread!

Whoops, you edited your post too slow. Tough luck!


this doesn't change the fact that you should put their names back in.

You're not punishing the players. You're not "upholding the integrity of e-sports" or anything like that. You're not fixing anything or exacting justice of any kind. All you are doing is making harder for the guy who reads this thread a year from now to try to learn about this particular MSL and he can't figure out who lost to Flash in the Ro16.

I understand you will not do the same in the next R&S thread but THIS thread will still be missing information about the Ro32 and the Ro16 and that's unacceptable (unless you mean that for some reason you're just waiting till after the finals to go back and put hwasin/yarnc in, in which case forget all of what I just said).
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grax
Profile Joined June 2009
United States41 Posts
May 28 2010 06:08 GMT
#199
You sound really mad. Channel that energy by writing an angry letter to Savior.

While you're at it, ask Larry Page to remove all google results for "Savior MSL".
grax
Profile Joined June 2009
United States41 Posts
May 28 2010 06:15 GMT
#200
Long live Savior, winner of three MSLs.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Savior#Accomplishments
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
September 18 2011 09:32 GMT
#201
On May 28 2010 05:04 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2010 04:50 jalstar wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:45 motbob wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:27 ndralcasid wrote:
C'mon now, let's not turn this into something like WWE did with Chris Benoit.

Whatever you think about them now, does not change the fact that Savior and Luxury won those seasons and were indeed the best at the time those MSL's were played. Trying to rewrite history is just stupid.

Pete Rose is not in the Hall of Fame. Is the commissioner trying to "rewrite history" by keeping him ineligible?

Damaging the integrity of the game attracts repercussions in this sport and in other sports.


Pete Rose is still in the record books and the World Series that the Reds won with him are still there too.

And you can still click the R&S threads for the three MSLs Savior won and his name is still there as the winner.

Why am I even arguing about this? I've already said I'm going to put the names back after the season. I am doing what I am doing and you are not going to convince me otherwise with rhetoric about being "juvenile" or trying to "rewrite history" or turning the R&S thread into "something like WWE."

EDIT: Too_MuchZerg, at least spoiler that so that you don't mess up the page.


After two seasons still not back
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 18 2011 11:35 GMT
#202
you can bitch all you want, but hwasin's game in that TvP was a fucking joke
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 19:19:17
September 18 2011 18:56 GMT
#203
On September 18 2011 18:32 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2010 05:04 motbob wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:50 jalstar wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:45 motbob wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:27 ndralcasid wrote:
C'mon now, let's not turn this into something like WWE did with Chris Benoit.

Whatever you think about them now, does not change the fact that Savior and Luxury won those seasons and were indeed the best at the time those MSL's were played. Trying to rewrite history is just stupid.

Pete Rose is not in the Hall of Fame. Is the commissioner trying to "rewrite history" by keeping him ineligible?

Damaging the integrity of the game attracts repercussions in this sport and in other sports.


Pete Rose is still in the record books and the World Series that the Reds won with him are still there too.

And you can still click the R&S threads for the three MSLs Savior won and his name is still there as the winner.

Why am I even arguing about this? I've already said I'm going to put the names back after the season. I am doing what I am doing and you are not going to convince me otherwise with rhetoric about being "juvenile" or trying to "rewrite history" or turning the R&S thread into "something like WWE."

EDIT: Too_MuchZerg, at least spoiler that so that you don't mess up the page.


After two seasons still not back

Did you seriously bump the thread for this?

EDIT: As a courtesy to people looking for past results, I added Hwasin and Yarnc back into the article. However, as the results of Savior etc. have been re-added in more recent R&S threads, I see no need to cease my protest of the men who did more to kill SC:BW than anyone else.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
September 18 2011 23:08 GMT
#204
On September 19 2011 03:56 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 18:32 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On May 28 2010 05:04 motbob wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:50 jalstar wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:45 motbob wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:27 ndralcasid wrote:
C'mon now, let's not turn this into something like WWE did with Chris Benoit.

Whatever you think about them now, does not change the fact that Savior and Luxury won those seasons and were indeed the best at the time those MSL's were played. Trying to rewrite history is just stupid.

Pete Rose is not in the Hall of Fame. Is the commissioner trying to "rewrite history" by keeping him ineligible?

Damaging the integrity of the game attracts repercussions in this sport and in other sports.


Pete Rose is still in the record books and the World Series that the Reds won with him are still there too.

And you can still click the R&S threads for the three MSLs Savior won and his name is still there as the winner.

Why am I even arguing about this? I've already said I'm going to put the names back after the season. I am doing what I am doing and you are not going to convince me otherwise with rhetoric about being "juvenile" or trying to "rewrite history" or turning the R&S thread into "something like WWE."

EDIT: Too_MuchZerg, at least spoiler that so that you don't mess up the page.


After two seasons still not back

Did you seriously bump the thread for this?

EDIT: As a courtesy to people looking for past results, I added Hwasin and Yarnc back into the article. However, as the results of Savior etc. have been re-added in more recent R&S threads, I see no need to cease my protest of the men who did more to kill SC:BW than anyone else.


Well after this post this thread can "die" again but this time less people wondering why there are players missing (who doesn't know what happened that time). I just wanted you to fill your promise and you did (almost) and that I thank you. + Show Spoiler +
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
September 19 2011 09:44 GMT
#205
On September 19 2011 03:56 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 18:32 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On May 28 2010 05:04 motbob wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:50 jalstar wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:45 motbob wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:27 ndralcasid wrote:
C'mon now, let's not turn this into something like WWE did with Chris Benoit.

Whatever you think about them now, does not change the fact that Savior and Luxury won those seasons and were indeed the best at the time those MSL's were played. Trying to rewrite history is just stupid.

Pete Rose is not in the Hall of Fame. Is the commissioner trying to "rewrite history" by keeping him ineligible?

Damaging the integrity of the game attracts repercussions in this sport and in other sports.


Pete Rose is still in the record books and the World Series that the Reds won with him are still there too.

And you can still click the R&S threads for the three MSLs Savior won and his name is still there as the winner.

Why am I even arguing about this? I've already said I'm going to put the names back after the season. I am doing what I am doing and you are not going to convince me otherwise with rhetoric about being "juvenile" or trying to "rewrite history" or turning the R&S thread into "something like WWE."

EDIT: Too_MuchZerg, at least spoiler that so that you don't mess up the page.


After two seasons still not back

Did you seriously bump the thread for this?

EDIT: As a courtesy to people looking for past results, I added Hwasin and Yarnc back into the article. However, as the results of Savior etc. have been re-added in more recent R&S threads, I see no need to cease my protest of the men who did more to kill SC:BW than anyone else.

I do. They won those seasons. Every thread should be complete. Someone glancing through the history in this thread shouldn't need to go hunting to see the winners of those seasons. Either remove the history section completely or add savior and luxury back in.
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
September 19 2011 12:15 GMT
#206
I think it's nonsense to leave out Savior and Luxury. At the very least put an asterisk next to the ???'s, and put Savior and Luxury in a footnote with a blurb about the match fixing. The main purpose of this thread is to provide information, after all, and the victories were legitimate.

The tragedy isn't that those players won those MSL's, it's that they threw PL matches. Why hide the facts?
May the BeSt man win.
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
October 07 2011 09:59 GMT
#207
hey theres an error in match B of the ro8, it says:

free 0-0 ► Advances to Semifinals
HiyA 0-0 ► eliminated


when it should say

free 3-2 ► Advances to Semifinals
HiyA 2-3 ► eliminated
im gay
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
October 07 2011 10:32 GMT
#208
as a JD fan, this finals was painful to watch.
but fun nonetheless.
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
allen_ami
Profile Joined December 2010
China1392 Posts
October 07 2011 11:38 GMT
#209
I heard Hana is going to sponsor the new team?
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 07 2011 12:01 GMT
#210
On October 07 2011 20:38 allen_ami wrote:
I heard Hana is going to sponsor the new team?


source?
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Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 07 2011 23:44 GMT
#211
On October 07 2011 19:32 jjhchsc2 wrote:
as a JD fan, this finals was painful to watch.
but fun nonetheless.

No. Not fun. Just painful to see him 14cc rolled three times in a row
Jaedong.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
October 08 2011 01:38 GMT
#212
haha, you forgot to question mark Yarnc
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
October 08 2011 02:12 GMT
#213
Please put in sAviOr? I hate to see him getting left out. If we have newcomers come in and question, might as well leave sAviOr in.
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Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
October 08 2011 02:15 GMT
#214
LOL, I thought this had been bumped because it was the best MSL run that MVP had before switching to SC2.
aka Moletrap
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
October 08 2011 05:49 GMT
#215
I think putting a foodnote after the ???? might be the best approach.

Just having ???? does seem to make the list somewhat incomplete.

On the other hand people should not be allowed to forget what those people did, and newcomers shouldn't read about their win without getting some introduction into the scandal.
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
October 08 2011 07:12 GMT
#216
On October 07 2011 21:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 20:38 allen_ami wrote:
I heard Hana is going to sponsor the new team?


source?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273058

Hana is possibly the "H" that rumors are floating about.

Koreans are such huge cockteases with information about things going on. Remember when the match fixing first leaked? "J" "S" "M" "L" lol.

I figured someone who sponsored a league is most likely to pick up a team, right? Could be it. Would be a weird sponsor haha
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
October 08 2011 07:19 GMT
#217
On October 08 2011 16:12 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 21:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 07 2011 20:38 allen_ami wrote:
I heard Hana is going to sponsor the new team?


source?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273058

Hana is possibly the "H" that rumors are floating about.

Koreans are such huge cockteases with information about things going on. Remember when the match fixing first leaked? "J" "S" "M" "L" lol.

I figured someone who sponsored a league is most likely to pick up a team, right? Could be it. Would be a weird sponsor haha

The Savior silhouette was insane lol.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 08 2011 08:42 GMT
#218
On October 08 2011 16:12 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 21:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 07 2011 20:38 allen_ami wrote:
I heard Hana is going to sponsor the new team?


source?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273058

Hana is possibly the "H" that rumors are floating about.

Koreans are such huge cockteases with information about things going on. Remember when the match fixing first leaked? "J" "S" "M" "L" lol.

I figured someone who sponsored a league is most likely to pick up a team, right? Could be it. Would be a weird sponsor haha


I asked that yesterday when it wasn't revealed and then a few hours later after some digging tweeted milkis regarding the rumor.
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how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
October 08 2011 09:41 GMT
#219
On September 19 2011 03:56 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 18:32 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On May 28 2010 05:04 motbob wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:50 jalstar wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:45 motbob wrote:
On May 28 2010 04:27 ndralcasid wrote:
C'mon now, let's not turn this into something like WWE did with Chris Benoit.

Whatever you think about them now, does not change the fact that Savior and Luxury won those seasons and were indeed the best at the time those MSL's were played. Trying to rewrite history is just stupid.

Pete Rose is not in the Hall of Fame. Is the commissioner trying to "rewrite history" by keeping him ineligible?

Damaging the integrity of the game attracts repercussions in this sport and in other sports.


Pete Rose is still in the record books and the World Series that the Reds won with him are still there too.

And you can still click the R&S threads for the three MSLs Savior won and his name is still there as the winner.

Why am I even arguing about this? I've already said I'm going to put the names back after the season. I am doing what I am doing and you are not going to convince me otherwise with rhetoric about being "juvenile" or trying to "rewrite history" or turning the R&S thread into "something like WWE."

EDIT: Too_MuchZerg, at least spoiler that so that you don't mess up the page.


After two seasons still not back

Did you seriously bump the thread for this?

EDIT: As a courtesy to people looking for past results, I added Hwasin and Yarnc back into the article. However, as the results of Savior etc. have been re-added in more recent R&S threads, I see no need to cease my protest of the men who did more to kill SC:BW than anyone else.


"I've already said I'm going to put the names back after the season." - You

But your crusade against dishonesty is really inspiring. LMAO
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