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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
February 06 2010 23:59 GMT
#1181
On February 07 2010 08:03 Silentness wrote:
I didn't doubt you JF...

i did but im glad he proved me wrong
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 07 2010 00:09 GMT
#1182
JF's putting on a strong showing. Terran went into it with a lot of fire behind him - with so many people predicting that JF was unprepared and that Terran was going to sweep him - but after the first game he probably realized how serious it was. Terran's macro was a little weak, but he micro'd well and took Game 3 to everyone's surprise. JF made several micro blunders but his macro simply powered through Terran. Looking forward to future matches.
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
February 07 2010 00:19 GMT
#1183
So much talking about his godly reaver micro that I actually thought his other mechanics woulnd't be nearly as good, guess I was wrong. Nice series and I loved game 3, so intense!
Freedom is a stranger
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 01:08:45
February 07 2010 00:40 GMT
#1184
On February 07 2010 08:58 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 08:26 Try wrote:
On February 07 2010 07:31 thopol wrote:
White-Ra is going to roll JF. White-Ra vs TT1 was really tight and high quality, whereas JF beat Terran in a disappointing series. JF played quite well, don't get me wrong, but I just don't think that Terran had the experience to play his A game today.



Wow, every single one of your posts so far has been extremely pro-Gosi[Terran] and anti JF. Seriously, you are ridiculously biased. Terran is good but not that good.

Oh, I don't see it that way at all. I just felt that Terran played rather poorly compared to his showing against Grape that Artosis put up last week. His macro was pretty consistently poor, and he never really pushed out. I fully understand that the latter of these two factors was influenced by JF's aggressive harass, but it seems like Terran could have done a better job.

I really like JF, and think he played well today. I certainly didn't mean to come off as anti-JF when I was expressing my disappointment in Terran's performance.


Yeah, but not pushing out was probably a direct result of his bad macro, not because he wasn't aggressive enough. But I don't think nerves can explain his bad play, because the games weren't live. And also, nerves are a big part of whether or not you can be a good player. Being the best practice partner in the world is not going to get you anywhere.

But hopefully Terran will get better. Even though I don't really like him as a person, I feel like him and Kolll are the best white hopes for future progaming. Kolll more so because he always seems to be calm under pressure, like Nony is.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
February 07 2010 01:19 GMT
#1185
Yes! Torrents are up. Can't wait to watch the games and know how they went. I don't really care too much about spoilers
Brood War loyalist
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 01:50:47
February 07 2010 01:49 GMT
#1186
I went back and watched Gosi's games against Infernal and noticed that he made the SAME MACRO MISTAKE of having too much gas. If you go to his game 1 you'll see he had 2k+ glass for much of the game. It didn't screw him (too much) against Infernal, but it lost him the game against JF, who simply out macro'd him.

Seems like Gosi really needs to improve in this area and then he'll be good.
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
February 07 2010 01:56 GMT
#1187
Great Games!
My upper bracket predictions are coming true, if only Kolll hadn't failed my lower bracket ones :D
Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
exp
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand91 Posts
February 07 2010 01:58 GMT
#1188
On February 07 2010 10:49 Azarkon wrote:
I went back and watched Gosi's games against Infernal and noticed that he made the SAME MACRO MISTAKE of having too much gas. If you go to his game 1 you'll see he had 2k+ glass for much of the game. It didn't screw him (too much) against Infernal, but it lost him the game against JF, who simply out macro'd him.

Seems like Gosi really needs to improve in this area and then he'll be good.


Yeah, game 2 he had ~3k at one point and game 4 he had 1k+ too.

I was expecting him to own shit up, but JF was way better today. JF just always seemed to be in a better position and had stronger macro.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8196 Posts
February 07 2010 03:44 GMT
#1189
omgggggggggg just watched Terran v JF. Soooooooooo good ah, really enjoyed the series even if I thought Terran played poorly compared to his games vs Grape. All the games were really tense and Artosis/Tasteless were really on today. Sickkkkkk
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 03:48:15
February 07 2010 03:47 GMT
#1190
The best part of this was probably my non-SC-playing friend at UofT messaging me on MSN randomly saying "hey check it out my friend is playing in the ro16 of some starcraft tourney", with a link to TL.net/live

Good games, some great moments in all of 'em
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 07 2010 03:52 GMT
#1191
On February 07 2010 12:47 Kyuukyuu wrote:
The best part of this was probably my non-SC-playing friend at UofT messaging me on MSN randomly saying "hey check it out my friend is playing in the ro16 of some starcraft tourney", with a link to TL.net/live

Good games, some great moments in all of 'em


LOL that's fucking sick, hahaha.

Did you explain to him the entirety of your Starcraft addiction?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
sassy
Profile Joined December 2009
240 Posts
February 07 2010 04:18 GMT
#1192
On February 07 2010 12:47 Kyuukyuu wrote:
The best part of this was probably my non-SC-playing friend at UofT messaging me on MSN randomly saying "hey check it out my friend is playing in the ro16 of some starcraft tourney", with a link to TL.net/live

Good games, some great moments in all of 'em



his name elio?
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
February 07 2010 06:24 GMT
#1193
Wow, JF's PvT is sick in a straight up game.
We make signature, then defense it.
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
February 07 2010 07:34 GMT
#1194
On February 07 2010 12:44 Vasoline73 wrote:
omgggggggggg just watched Terran v JF. Soooooooooo good ah, really enjoyed the series even if I thought Terran played poorly compared to his games vs Grape. All the games were really tense and Artosis/Tasteless were really on today. Sickkkkkk

I'm sorry, but Terran only did so good vs Grape because they were both macro robots. No brains. JF had the macro to fight toe to toe with Terran, but was much smarter in his decision making. Terran didn't play poorly, he just had no answer to JF's intelligent moves.
HitEmUp
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8182 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 07:42:21
February 07 2010 07:39 GMT
#1195
really good games today. The only problem was that I was almost tearing my hair out at times when something would be going on either on screen or on the minimap and artosis/tasteless would either completely miss it or not point it out until 10-15 seconds after it happened. ESPECIALLY during the JF vs terran games. This probably the biggest problem in the way that the games are casted right now, but I'm not really sure what a good way to fix it would be. Just kinda a bummer I guess.

edit- also there were times when I would see a drop or harass happen on the minimap and not only would artosis/tasteless miss it but even the observer would miss it. oh god that was driving me crazy lol. really made me realize just how good korean TV observers are and why they deserved to get paid to do it fulltime lol.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 07 2010 07:45 GMT
#1196
i agree, but nothing's perfect... there is clearly room for improvement in the broadcasts, but that just means that as we approach further rounds it will just get better and better.


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Mumblee
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada256 Posts
February 07 2010 08:11 GMT
#1197
Yeah, the observer missing stuff drives me absolutely crazy.
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
February 07 2010 11:40 GMT
#1198
On February 07 2010 08:59 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 08:03 Silentness wrote:
I didn't doubt you JF...

i did but im glad he proved me wrong


yeah me too

I didn't think JF was in any shape to put up with terran's TvP but damn, that was some really solid PvT last night. Can't wait to see how JF would fare against someone like White-ra.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
February 07 2010 14:20 GMT
#1199
I really don't get all the hype Terran has been receiving; he looked decidedly ordinary in this series.

Credit to JF as he played exceptionally, but there seems to still be quite an obvious skill gap in many of the series.

The ro8 is looking quite promising though.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Floydian
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom374 Posts
February 07 2010 14:36 GMT
#1200
On February 07 2010 16:39 Ideas wrote:
really good games today. The only problem was that I was almost tearing my hair out at times when something would be going on either on screen or on the minimap and artosis/tasteless would either completely miss it or not point it out until 10-15 seconds after it happened. ESPECIALLY during the JF vs terran games. This probably the biggest problem in the way that the games are casted right now, but I'm not really sure what a good way to fix it would be. Just kinda a bummer I guess.

edit- also there were times when I would see a drop or harass happen on the minimap and not only would artosis/tasteless miss it but even the observer would miss it. oh god that was driving me crazy lol. really made me realize just how good korean TV observers are and why they deserved to get paid to do it fulltime lol.


I agree, maybe it was just them being groggy with it being stupid-o-clock in the morning for the commentators, but they seemed to miss a fair few important encounters.
At the risk of sounding overly negative, it is the one thing that I've found to be slightly under-par in the otherwise excellent TSL. It's happened in most of the games where the commentators and the observer either aren't on the same page as each other, or they've both just completely missed something. Guess that comes with the territory of all the players/commentators/observers being in different places. We make do with what we've got I suppose.

Some good games though! Looking forward to todays!
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