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jcu
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada93 Posts
February 06 2010 22:39 GMT
#1161
I thought the JF vs Terran games were of higher quality than the White-ra vs TT1 games. Maybe, Terran didn't play up to his potential but he still played pretty damn well. JF and Terran have much faster reaction times and cleaner mechanics overall than White-ra and TT1 imo. It's pretty common in a long PvT to lose some units to mines. It's sometimes intentional to send a could of units to diffuse mines. White-ra had long 1k macro sinks off 2 base and still managed to win whereas JF's macro was generally clean until he maxed. And maybe this is due to the nature of the matchup, but I felt JF vs Terran had alot more encounters than TT1 vs White-ra.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
February 06 2010 22:41 GMT
#1162
Finally two good series ( games have been quite bad so far imo ).
:p
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-06 22:46:08
February 06 2010 22:42 GMT
#1163
JF is a beast , definitely better then that grape guy from estro . Idra will have trouble with Nony JF/ White-Ra and Fenix . While i think that Ret's got this easy if he can just pass Castro and Sen . His ZvP is to damn good for a foreign protoss to handle at least thats what me thinks .
sl
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-06 22:45:32
February 06 2010 22:43 GMT
#1164
On February 07 2010 07:31 thopol wrote:
White-Ra is going to roll JF. White-Ra vs TT1 was really tight and high quality, whereas JF beat Terran in a disappointing series. JF played quite well, don't get me wrong, but I just don't think that Terran had the experience to play his A game today.



That's your basis for thinking White-ra will ROLL jf?

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/gosubet/57442/previous-encounters

How bout this for a possible basis?
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
February 06 2010 22:45 GMT
#1165
JF's play was seriously impressive. Gosi[Terran] didn't play badly, JF was just ahead of him in very standard, stable games. He managed the gameflow perfectly and didn't slip in macro or multitask. There is no way to downplay this kind of performance.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
February 06 2010 22:45 GMT
#1166
On February 07 2010 07:31 thopol wrote:
White-Ra is going to roll JF. White-Ra vs TT1 was really tight and high quality, whereas JF beat Terran in a disappointing series. JF played quite well, don't get me wrong, but I just don't think that Terran had the experience to play his A game today.


wrong 3-1 or 3-0 from JF
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
February 06 2010 22:46 GMT
#1167
It all depends on how much JF is prepared to practise or has practised for it,. and how much worse his pvp has gotten due his inactiveness.

A in shape pvp jf would wipe the floor with ra.
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
February 06 2010 22:53 GMT
#1168
The King is back. Long live the King.

I'm just loving JF's well thought out strategies and his great decision-making. There are some sloppy moments but overall he just has a great understanding of the match-up and the correct thing to do.

I hope he puts in some significant practice and effort so we can see some more great games from him.
Marines > everything
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 06 2010 22:54 GMT
#1169
JF is looking so much stronger than I thought he would. Would love to see Idra play a Bo5 vs him.

And that game on Outsider was fucking epic.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 06 2010 22:55 GMT
#1170
although JF won 3-1... the games were insanely impressive by both players O_O!~
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
February 06 2010 22:58 GMT
#1171
On February 07 2010 07:43 sl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 07:31 thopol wrote:
White-Ra is going to roll JF. White-Ra vs TT1 was really tight and high quality, whereas JF beat Terran in a disappointing series. JF played quite well, don't get me wrong, but I just don't think that Terran had the experience to play his A game today.



That's your basis for thinking White-ra will ROLL jf?

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/gosubet/57442/previous-encounters

How bout this for a possible basis?

Yeah, it is useful to consider their past encounters, but all of those were over 6 months ago, some substantially so. My prediction is just based on today's games, which admittedly are a small sample, but also indicate their strengths at this very moment. It is also worth considering that White-Ra has been training his PvP for the past couple of weeks and will be able to continue refining it, while JF will be switching which MU he's practicing for. I expect good play from JF, but I also expect the result to be one-sided.
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
February 06 2010 22:59 GMT
#1172
Game 2 he didn't respond in time when JF pushed at 9.

Look at game 3 and tell me otherwise.

Game 4 he managed to stay in with his upgrades and making a sizable army, but in the end he stretched himself thin.

Gosi's play was solid with some errors here and there. Not like JF didn't make a lot of mistakes too.

I would say the Gosi handles pressure pretty well.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
sassy
Profile Joined December 2009
240 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-06 23:04:31
February 06 2010 23:03 GMT
#1173
On February 07 2010 07:43 sl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 07:31 thopol wrote:
White-Ra is going to roll JF. White-Ra vs TT1 was really tight and high quality, whereas JF beat Terran in a disappointing series. JF played quite well, don't get me wrong, but I just don't think that Terran had the experience to play his A game today.



That's your basis for thinking White-ra will ROLL jf?

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/gosubet/57442/previous-encounters

How bout this for a possible basis?



he has no idea what hes talking about, just forgive him


nerves ended up deciding a lot more in tt1 vs whitera than in jf vs gositerran
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
February 06 2010 23:03 GMT
#1174
I didn't doubt you JF...
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
ErOs_HalO
Profile Joined January 2010
United States167 Posts
February 06 2010 23:17 GMT
#1175
JF's Macro and micro... basically everything was so impressive..

Mainly his macro.. damn.
Pretty imaginitive, huh?
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
February 06 2010 23:18 GMT
#1176
On February 07 2010 07:55 Xeris wrote:
although JF won 3-1... the games were insanely impressive by both players O_O!~

this
I was surprised, this series was probably the most interesting series I've seen among foreigners, so back and forth and also high level game methinks.
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
February 06 2010 23:26 GMT
#1177
On February 07 2010 07:31 thopol wrote:
White-Ra is going to roll JF. White-Ra vs TT1 was really tight and high quality, whereas JF beat Terran in a disappointing series. JF played quite well, don't get me wrong, but I just don't think that Terran had the experience to play his A game today.



Wow, every single one of your posts so far has been extremely pro-Gosi[Terran] and anti JF. Seriously, you are ridiculously biased. Terran is good but not that good.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
February 06 2010 23:53 GMT
#1178
i couldn't believe how good JF's macro was

I mean admittedly in game 1 Gosi fucked up his macro a LOT.. as well as taking his 3rd cleanly.

but games 2 and 4 jf played sooo well mechanically. game 4 he was maxed hilariously fast.

kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
February 06 2010 23:56 GMT
#1179
On February 07 2010 08:53 dekuschrub wrote:
i couldn't believe how good JF's macro was

I mean admittedly in game 1 Gosi fucked up his macro a LOT.. as well as taking his 3rd cleanly.

but games 2 and 4 jf played sooo well mechanically. game 4 he was maxed hilariously fast.



agreed i think jf cheesed 3rd game just for the sake of cheese im sure he could have taken it if he played legit
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
February 06 2010 23:58 GMT
#1180
On February 07 2010 08:26 Try wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 07:31 thopol wrote:
White-Ra is going to roll JF. White-Ra vs TT1 was really tight and high quality, whereas JF beat Terran in a disappointing series. JF played quite well, don't get me wrong, but I just don't think that Terran had the experience to play his A game today.



Wow, every single one of your posts so far has been extremely pro-Gosi[Terran] and anti JF. Seriously, you are ridiculously biased. Terran is good but not that good.

Oh, I don't see it that way at all. I just felt that Terran played rather poorly compared to his showing against Grape that Artosis put up last week. His macro was pretty consistently poor, and he never really pushed out. I fully understand that the latter of these two factors was influenced by JF's aggressive harass, but it seems like Terran could have done a better job.

I really like JF, and think he played well today. I certainly didn't mean to come off as anti-JF when I was expressing my disappointment in Terran's performance.
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