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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 224

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Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
January 24 2010 16:23 GMT
#4461
On January 25 2010 00:22 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 23:45 LucasWoJ wrote:
Are you are he went two supply before cc every game, stylish? Double check the second game, it seemed like depot --> rax --> cc (so no two depot before cc).


ye, i forgot about that one. since you can wall its easily done. but i'd rather see a 14 cc and then block with 1 suply 1rax. something special. we didn't see anything new or special from flash this series. he hadn't prepared something special in any game imo.

he did seem to have adapted pretty got to the zerostrat in the first game though since he placed his cc on the spot and didnt make a bunker early on. i just cant understand why he didnt have turrets in his main. the only reason i could think of after speaking to haypro about it was that he might have placed the factory superearly because he though he was way ahead after getting those 2 initial mutakills.

well, mb its because he thought that he could beat JD with solid play. And a 14cc build is risky, coz JD loves his 9pool.
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 24 2010 16:40 GMT
#4462
Worst finals in the history ever

kkthxbye
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 24 2010 16:59 GMT
#4463
On January 25 2010 01:23 Jaeden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 00:22 StylishVODs wrote:
On January 24 2010 23:45 LucasWoJ wrote:
Are you are he went two supply before cc every game, stylish? Double check the second game, it seemed like depot --> rax --> cc (so no two depot before cc).


ye, i forgot about that one. since you can wall its easily done. but i'd rather see a 14 cc and then block with 1 suply 1rax. something special. we didn't see anything new or special from flash this series. he hadn't prepared something special in any game imo.

he did seem to have adapted pretty got to the zerostrat in the first game though since he placed his cc on the spot and didnt make a bunker early on. i just cant understand why he didnt have turrets in his main. the only reason i could think of after speaking to haypro about it was that he might have placed the factory superearly because he though he was way ahead after getting those 2 initial mutakills.

well, mb its because he thought that he could beat JD with solid play. And a 14cc build is risky, coz JD loves his 9pool.


yeah thats probably it. Would have been nice to see him prepare something special since it was Jaedong. Jaedong had prepared special build from every game.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
January 24 2010 17:06 GMT
#4464
I was sort of disappointed, Flash just didn't seem like himself during game four. It felt rather sad hearing the MSL commentators try to make it seem the gg Flash typed during game four a big hype, but it felt so shallow.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 24 2010 17:46 GMT
#4465
On January 25 2010 02:06 Celestial wrote:
I was sort of disappointed, Flash just didn't seem like himself during game four. It felt rather sad hearing the MSL commentators try to make it seem the gg Flash typed during game four a big hype, but it felt so shallow.


Totally agreed about the last sentence there
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Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
January 24 2010 18:00 GMT
#4466
On January 25 2010 02:06 Celestial wrote:
I was sort of disappointed, Flash just didn't seem like himself during game four. It felt rather sad hearing the MSL commentators try to make it seem the gg Flash typed during game four a big hype, but it felt so shallow.

Yeah, very disappointed here. I feel so robbed, the win just seems so hollow. Flash definitely seemed off in game 4, although I might just be bias because I wanted Flash to win.

Someone tell me I'm not crazy when I think Flash's play was off game 4.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
January 24 2010 18:02 GMT
#4467
yeah finals robbed everyone

i felt so pissed when it happened... im sure flash was pissed

and it robbed JD too... JD played so good and it was just like who gives a fuck MBC is so bad
bias-
Profile Joined October 2004
United States410 Posts
January 24 2010 18:16 GMT
#4468
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Let it go, just let's make sure we have some uninterruptible power supplies for the players next finals. =)
For serious minds, a bias recognized is a bias sterilized.
onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
January 24 2010 20:06 GMT
#4469
in the time it took them to sort all that crap out they could have just remade the map in editor and set it to the current conditions before the crash
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
January 24 2010 20:28 GMT
#4470
Just out of curiosity, why don't they have backup power supplies for the computers for cases like this? I mean, they aren't expensive and stuff. I have my computer hooked up to a UPS right now so I don't lose anything if the power goes out.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
January 24 2010 20:29 GMT
#4471
^ wow, Flash really fakin' the smile there...
Khenra
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands885 Posts
January 24 2010 22:03 GMT
#4472
Not a fake smile, he's just laughing at how much the organisation sucks. Power failing, seriously? This is so scripted..
This signature is ruining eSports.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-24 22:19:02
January 24 2010 22:10 GMT
#4473
Why should Flash fake his smile?

He got outplayed by the world's greatest Bo5 player and his friend, Jaedong. But he still took KT to the top of PL rankings, got OSL gold and MSL silver. I am pretty sure hes satisfied with his results this season.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 24 2010 22:16 GMT
#4474
On January 25 2010 07:10 SuperArc wrote:
Why should Flash fake his smile?

He got outplayed by the current best player and his friend, Jaedong. But he still took KT to the top of PL rankings, got OSL gold and MSL silver. I am pretty sure hes satisfied with his results this season.

Jaedong is not the current best player, Flash is. Historically JD is ahead, but during the span of this season, Flash has been No 1.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 24 2010 22:19 GMT
#4475
On January 25 2010 07:16 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 07:10 SuperArc wrote:
Why should Flash fake his smile?

He got outplayed by the current best player and his friend, Jaedong. But he still took KT to the top of PL rankings, got OSL gold and MSL silver. I am pretty sure hes satisfied with his results this season.

Jaedong is not the current best player, Flash is. Historically JD is ahead, but during the span of this season, Flash has been No 1.


Fine, I changed my wording.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
January 24 2010 22:24 GMT
#4476
Just finished watching it ...

I feel like all the antecipation and hype for before the series resulted only in extreme frustration.

I expected to see an epic series of games, and instead what ive seen is an epic catastrophe organization wise.

We all know how your mental status is important in BW, when the power went out, there was no more flash.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 24 2010 22:33 GMT
#4477
On January 25 2010 07:19 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 07:16 Holgerius wrote:
On January 25 2010 07:10 SuperArc wrote:
Why should Flash fake his smile?

He got outplayed by the current best player and his friend, Jaedong. But he still took KT to the top of PL rankings, got OSL gold and MSL silver. I am pretty sure hes satisfied with his results this season.

Jaedong is not the current best player, Flash is. Historically JD is ahead, but during the span of this season, Flash has been No 1.


Fine, I changed my wording.

Ok, I guess I can agree with that statement. I wouldn't even mind if you simply called Jaedong ''the best player of all time''. I just don't want to see this final bring any discredit to Flash's magnificence this season.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 24 2010 22:35 GMT
#4478
On January 25 2010 07:33 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 07:19 SuperArc wrote:
On January 25 2010 07:16 Holgerius wrote:
On January 25 2010 07:10 SuperArc wrote:
Why should Flash fake his smile?

He got outplayed by the current best player and his friend, Jaedong. But he still took KT to the top of PL rankings, got OSL gold and MSL silver. I am pretty sure hes satisfied with his results this season.

Jaedong is not the current best player, Flash is. Historically JD is ahead, but during the span of this season, Flash has been No 1.


Fine, I changed my wording.

Ok, I guess I can agree with that statement. I wouldn't even mind if you simply called Jaedong ''the best player of all time''. I just don't want to see this final bring any discredit to Flash's magnificence this season.


I wasnt trying to, I just explained Flash had no reason to be sad or fake a smile.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
January 24 2010 22:52 GMT
#4479
Flash's smile at the end felt really genuine to me. I think it helps a lot here that he's good friends with Jaedong.
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Sily
Profile Joined January 2009
Romania9 Posts
January 24 2010 23:00 GMT
#4480
If kespa were smart enough they would have continued the rounds without giving out their decision so that they would not cause any so called "psychological advantage". This would have kept the two players concentration at the point it should have been until the end and even if the decision would have been unfair, I'm sure the matches would have developed on another pattern. Anyway, it would have been at least decent do to so ...
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