Just watched the VOD again and say on 14th min Flash was winning but 4 mins later Flash was losing so if that electricity failure happened couple mins before Flash would have gotten an instant win from refs...
Maybe MSL wants to create some contreversy to attract more viewres?

"JD appeared to be in the lead" was official Kespa statement - laughable

d_so

Korea (South)3262 Posts

January 23 2010 23:37 GMT

#4422

On January 24 2010 05:28 yarders wrote:

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The fact a map is balanced in favour of one race (in your opinion) is no basis for making a decision on the result of a match. That is the chosen map for the series whether you like it or not. Are you suggesting that if power outage had happend and Flash had been winning the game then it should have been replayed because of the map. Stop clutching at straws and except that the wrong decision was made.

Both Flash and Jaedongs builds had been revealed.
Jaedongs lead was not decisive. Flash and other players have come back from far far worse positions many times in the past.
This isn't fair on Jaedong either, by not replaying the game its ruined his victory.

YES we absolutly should be mad at Kespa

1) For having inadequate rules and protocol
2) For letting this drag out for over an hour ruining the next couple of games. Bad decisions happen in many sports but coaches, players and parents do not argue for hours after the event whilst it is still ongoing.
3) For making a the wrong decision. As it has already been said you do not just ajudicate wins in the MSL finals.

An example of one of many a Flash comeback from a far worse position. go to 26 minutes. What would the result have been here when the power was cut.

i know this game. it's where savior goes gaurds and pushes flash to 1 base, then flash suddenly pushes out and wins.

i thought about this game as well after watching game 3. There are some big differences between game 3 and flash vs savior though:

1. massed up mnm count
2. failgaurdians --> savior running out of resources
3. huge sci vessel cloud

none of that happened in game 3. flash was down to ten marines; maybe more will come, but nothing compared to what he had in his final push against savior. no gaurdians in play: 5/3 ultras and defilers are a much more formidable enemy. and the sci vessel count was low, with very little gas to replenish them.

the main point you have i agree with: if the game had been stopped at the moment flash was forced to lift his cc and before the eraser, it would have clearly been a decision for savior

Deathfate

Spain555 Posts

January 24 2010 00:02 GMT

#4423

The games were epic, the mutalisk micro in game 1 abusing the narrow line behind minerals as Hogil did vs flash was fantastic.
Game 2 i thought Jaedong had it with a brilliant strat with slow overlord drop turtling a lot outsider style, but somehow flash managed to drop the main in the EXACT time just before jaedong had ultras or defilers ready.
Game 3 was the best i think, with the defense in the top right with the sunks just in time, and then when flash broke it and use a perfect medic wall to protect his marines, while he blocked the main with the factory to stop jaedong counter only with 7 marines, and then jaedong killing it all with a beatiful flank taking advantage that flash was moving in a limbo line. The defense down was also pretty good but at that point ultras 5-2 and swarm are pretty easy to use. And the scourge micro in this game was also very very good.

piratebay

United States399 Posts

January 24 2010 00:04 GMT

#4424

its a shame that the blackout happened, but i loved the games nonetheless.

zengrz

Canada37 Posts

January 24 2010 00:06 GMT

#4425

This MSL SUKS!

mishimaBeef

Canada2259 Posts

January 24 2010 00:10 GMT

#4426

On January 24 2010 09:06 zengrz wrote:
This MSL SUKS!

Yeah. If you compare the show OGN put on for the OSL finals to the sad crap of the MSL show it is no contest.

kyzers0ze

Singapore1073 Posts

January 24 2010 00:33 GMT

#4427

On January 24 2010 09:10 mishimaBeef wrote:

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Yeah. If you compare the show OGN put on for the OSL finals to the sad crap of the MSL show it is no contest.

agreed osl was far more epic even though movie is no jaedong

Cirn9

1117 Posts

January 24 2010 00:38 GMT

#4428

On January 24 2010 09:10 mishimaBeef wrote:

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Yeah. If you compare the show OGN put on for the OSL finals to the sad crap of the MSL show it is no contest.

I agree full with this statement

Gumbo

Canada807 Posts

January 24 2010 00:53 GMT

#4429

MBC studios need to be nuked.

Gann1

United States1575 Posts

January 24 2010 00:56 GMT

#4430

I never would have thought that MBCGame would be able to make Flash vs Jaedong worse than Flash vs Movie, but they did it.

mishimaBeef

Canada2259 Posts

January 24 2010 02:01 GMT

#4431

Meant to
Be
Cool

but isnt...

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 24 2010 02:03 GMT

#4432

On January 24 2010 09:56 Gann1 wrote:
I never would have thought that MBCGame would be able to make Flash vs Jaedong worse than Flash vs Movie, but they did it.

Those were pretty good games though :o

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

January 24 2010 02:09 GMT

#4433

On January 24 2010 03:10 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
flash looked really tired in those games

Really when the ceremony was starting he looked awake while me and everyone on vent thought Jaedong looked tired.

We Are Here

Australia1810 Posts

January 24 2010 02:13 GMT

#4434

On January 24 2010 11:09 blade55555 wrote:

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Really when the ceremony was starting he looked awake while me and everyone on vent thought Jaedong looked tired.

he looked more sad than tired imo. which makes it all the more depressing

gjg.instinct

144 Posts

January 24 2010 02:15 GMT

#4435

When are we going to see some footage of old Young Ho flipping out?

seRapH

United States9808 Posts

January 24 2010 02:19 GMT

#4436

for the past few finals, the finals that seemed more epic ended up sucking more =\

Arhkangel

Argentina769 Posts

January 24 2010 02:38 GMT

#4437

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On January 24 2010 05:49 conTAgi0n wrote:

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Best posts in the thread right here.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA OMGF I can't breathe omg. I've read ll the pages I saw the gmaes live I am a Flash fan but god-dammit that pic is worth all of it!

Khul Sadukar

Australia1735 Posts

January 24 2010 03:51 GMT

#4438

I really hope there are some translations coming up soon, couldnt watch this live and the torrent files were confusing. (at least they werent a spoiler)

Particularly about Flash's dad/Team arguing with Kespa. Was that shown in the footage anywhere? Where did the translation come from. (admittedly I skipped most of the footage of the talking, all i saw was ppl gathered around Flash's desk.)

Saturnize

United States2473 Posts

January 24 2010 04:15 GMT

#4439

Flash was robbed and JD was robbed of a "legit" title, and he would of probably won it in 5 games.

This MSL BLOWS

Julmust

Sweden4867 Posts

January 24 2010 04:37 GMT

#4440

On January 24 2010 12:51 Khul Sadukar wrote:
I really hope there are some translations coming up soon, couldnt watch this live and the torrent files were confusing. (at least they werent a spoiler)

Particularly about Flash's dad/Team arguing with Kespa. Was that shown in the footage anywhere? Where did the translation come from. (admittedly I skipped most of the footage of the talking, all i saw was ppl gathered around Flash's desk.)

there was no talk of that on the official stream, nevergg was in the room with her laptop while the fight was going on so she was live reporting to us via ventrilo