Maybe MSL wants to create some contreversy to attract more viewres?
"JD appeared to be in the lead" was official Kespa statement - laughable
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Hazard
Norway594 Posts
Maybe MSL wants to create some contreversy to attract more viewres? "JD appeared to be in the lead" was official Kespa statement - laughable | ||
d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On January 24 2010 05:28 yarders wrote: Show nested quote + On January 24 2010 04:49 Probe. wrote: On January 24 2010 04:28 yarders wrote: On January 24 2010 03:13 purpose wrote: I dont know if anyone has posted this qoute yet but in case not, here is what Ret has to say about it. And tbh I agree with him. All in all there was not 100% correct decision to make, but the one they took was the least unfair. Ret's opinion " I'd just like to say I think the descision Kespa made to award JD the win was the right one. He was playing on a T favored map...in a very very favorable position after having overcome all the imbalances that make this map so hard to play ZvT on. If you put jaedong back at the start of the game it gives flash an advantadge again...So regame is a lot worse than awarding Jaedong a win for a game he would win 99.9% of the time. He was about to get his 5th gas...Flash was outta minerals in about 2 minutes....with no vessels or tanks to fight Ultras. m&m in small numbers would have never broken jaedongs base at 7 o clock. So all in all the only right descision in my opinion. " LOL Thats the worst reasoning I've ever heard, it makes absolutely no logical sense whatsoever. The idea you award a win in the MSL finals because of map balance is absurd. No the reasoning was that Jaedong was the clear winner in set 3. Flash had 0 chance of coming back from that. To restart the game would bo 100x more unfair to Jaedong because he was ahead and his build was revealed. Yes it sucks that the game had to end early, but let's be honest Jaedong was going to win it soon enough. We shouldn't be mad at KESPA, we should be mad at the fucking piece of shit MBC for shitting up the finals with the crappy studio. The fact a map is balanced in favour of one race (in your opinion) is no basis for making a decision on the result of a match. That is the chosen map for the series whether you like it or not. Are you suggesting that if power outage had happend and Flash had been winning the game then it should have been replayed because of the map. Stop clutching at straws and except that the wrong decision was made. Both Flash and Jaedongs builds had been revealed. Jaedongs lead was not decisive. Flash and other players have come back from far far worse positions many times in the past. This isn't fair on Jaedong either, by not replaying the game its ruined his victory. YES we absolutly should be mad at Kespa 1) For having inadequate rules and protocol 2) For letting this drag out for over an hour ruining the next couple of games. Bad decisions happen in many sports but coaches, players and parents do not argue for hours after the event whilst it is still ongoing. 3) For making a the wrong decision. As it has already been said you do not just ajudicate wins in the MSL finals. An example of one of many a Flash comeback from a far worse position. go to 26 minutes. What would the result have been here when the power was cut. i know this game. it's where savior goes gaurds and pushes flash to 1 base, then flash suddenly pushes out and wins. i thought about this game as well after watching game 3. There are some big differences between game 3 and flash vs savior though: 1. massed up mnm count 2. failgaurdians --> savior running out of resources 3. huge sci vessel cloud none of that happened in game 3. flash was down to ten marines; maybe more will come, but nothing compared to what he had in his final push against savior. no gaurdians in play: 5/3 ultras and defilers are a much more formidable enemy. and the sci vessel count was low, with very little gas to replenish them. the main point you have i agree with: if the game had been stopped at the moment flash was forced to lift his cc and before the eraser, it would have clearly been a decision for savior | ||
Deathfate
Spain555 Posts
Game 2 i thought Jaedong had it with a brilliant strat with slow overlord drop turtling a lot outsider style, but somehow flash managed to drop the main in the EXACT time just before jaedong had ultras or defilers ready. Game 3 was the best i think, with the defense in the top right with the sunks just in time, and then when flash broke it and use a perfect medic wall to protect his marines, while he blocked the main with the factory to stop jaedong counter only with 7 marines, and then jaedong killing it all with a beatiful flank taking advantage that flash was moving in a limbo line. The defense down was also pretty good but at that point ultras 5-2 and swarm are pretty easy to use. And the scourge micro in this game was also very very good. | ||
piratebay
United States399 Posts
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zengrz
Canada37 Posts
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
On January 24 2010 09:06 zengrz wrote: This MSL SUKS! Yeah. If you compare the show OGN put on for the OSL finals to the sad crap of the MSL show it is no contest. | ||
kyzers0ze
Singapore1073 Posts
On January 24 2010 09:10 mishimaBeef wrote: Yeah. If you compare the show OGN put on for the OSL finals to the sad crap of the MSL show it is no contest. agreed osl was far more epic even though movie is no jaedong | ||
Cirn9
1117 Posts
On January 24 2010 09:10 mishimaBeef wrote: Yeah. If you compare the show OGN put on for the OSL finals to the sad crap of the MSL show it is no contest. I agree full with this statement | ||
Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
Be Cool but isnt... | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 24 2010 09:56 Gann1 wrote: I never would have thought that MBCGame would be able to make Flash vs Jaedong worse than Flash vs Movie, but they did it. Those were pretty good games though :o | ||
blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On January 24 2010 03:10 Ilikestarcraft wrote: flash looked really tired in those games Really when the ceremony was starting he looked awake while me and everyone on vent thought Jaedong looked tired. | ||
We Are Here
Australia1810 Posts
On January 24 2010 11:09 blade55555 wrote: he looked more sad than tired imo. which makes it all the more depressingShow nested quote + On January 24 2010 03:10 Ilikestarcraft wrote: flash looked really tired in those games Really when the ceremony was starting he looked awake while me and everyone on vent thought Jaedong looked tired. | ||
gjg.instinct
144 Posts
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seRapH
United States9706 Posts
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Arhkangel
Argentina769 Posts
On January 24 2010 05:49 conTAgi0n wrote: Show nested quote + On January 23 2010 22:08 orgolove wrote: Heater for 5th Bonjwa. "I'll see you in the finals." -Radiation Heater lololol Best posts in the thread right here. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA OMGF I can't breathe omg. I've read ll the pages I saw the gmaes live I am a Flash fan but god-dammit that pic is worth all of it! | ||
Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
Particularly about Flash's dad/Team arguing with Kespa. Was that shown in the footage anywhere? Where did the translation come from. (admittedly I skipped most of the footage of the talking, all i saw was ppl gathered around Flash's desk.) | ||
Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
This MSL BLOWS | ||
Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
On January 24 2010 12:51 Khul Sadukar wrote: I really hope there are some translations coming up soon, couldnt watch this live and the torrent files were confusing. (at least they werent a spoiler) Particularly about Flash's dad/Team arguing with Kespa. Was that shown in the footage anywhere? Where did the translation come from. (admittedly I skipped most of the footage of the talking, all i saw was ppl gathered around Flash's desk.) there was no talk of that on the official stream, nevergg was in the room with her laptop while the fight was going on so she was live reporting to us via ventrilo | ||
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