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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 201

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annYeong(o11)
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada784 Posts
January 23 2010 13:10 GMT
#4001
On January 23 2010 22:05 orgolove wrote:

They couldn't even get the graphics right:
[image loading]


(FLOATING LOLOLOL)

Puts Avatar's CG to shame.



lol
Founder of the KiWiKaKi Fanclub: teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188537 my keyboard is like half broken. like terran. please ignore typos, thanks
BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
January 23 2010 13:10 GMT
#4002
On January 23 2010 22:06 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 22:02 BG1 wrote:
Note that all of Flashes forces got killed.


No, he still had M&M and vessels. Watch at about 18:45 to 18:50.



yea he had left over scraps, 2 sunks with ultra and defiler with dark swarm was there, not to mention nydus canal, 7 was safe and that's gg. Flash had a mineral only expansion left at that point.
There was once a dream that was Esports. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... Now is the time to make that dream a reality!
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-23 13:12:06
January 23 2010 13:10 GMT
#4003
Here's what I see at the blackout time

Flash has: ~10 Marines 5+ Medics

Jaedong has 4-6 Lings, 2 irradiated ultras, one non-irradiated ultra, a defiler, also a sunken
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
January 23 2010 13:10 GMT
#4004
On January 23 2010 22:02 BG1 wrote:
Game 3 is up with the extra 30 secs of footage that wasn't shown by kespa playback

(start minute 18)

+ Show Spoiler +



Note that all of Flashes forces got killed. 2sunks ready with ultra + defiler and swarm, 7 was safe.


There was more to the video than this. I saw on the replay that Flash's forces fought all the way back down again into JD's expo. Why are they not showing it?
CJ Entusman #24
T.Sqd)LillTT
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Lithuania149 Posts
January 23 2010 13:10 GMT
#4005
I was rooting for JD but im kinda dissapointed I wanted him to win fair Tho imho he would've won 3rd set flash was runing out of mins in his nat couldn't support the macro and JD had defs + ultra :p
I kinda feel bad for flash..
There are two ways of stoping a 4pool. 1. With a 4 pool. 2. With a drophack...
BobbYt3hBobbY
Profile Joined December 2008
256 Posts
January 23 2010 13:12 GMT
#4006
On January 23 2010 22:10 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Here's what I see at the blackout time

Flash has: ~10 Marines 5+ Medics

Jaedong has 4-6 Lings, 2 irradiated ultras, one non-irradiated ultra, a defiler


There was 1 more Ultra running to 7oclock. so that makes 2 non-irradiated ultras.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
January 23 2010 13:12 GMT
#4007
On January 23 2010 22:10 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 22:02 BG1 wrote:
Game 3 is up with the extra 30 secs of footage that wasn't shown by kespa playback

(start minute 18)

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_AdKktRlSc&feature=sub



Note that all of Flashes forces got killed. 2sunks ready with ultra + defiler and swarm, 7 was safe.


There was more to the video than this. I saw on the replay that Flash's forces fought all the way back down again into JD's expo. Why are they not showing it?

dude that youtube video is exactly what happened, scroll backward and you will probably see the battle you are thinking of
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
January 23 2010 13:13 GMT
#4008
On January 23 2010 22:10 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Here's what I see at the blackout time

Flash has: ~10 Marines 5+ Medics

Jaedong has 4-6 Lings, 2 irradiated ultras, one non-irradiated ultra, a defiler



Those Ultras were low on health. Flash also had 3 Vessels up.

JD however had a nydus at the expo and a sunken.

That doesn't tell me anything. What I really want to see is what either player had back at home.
CJ Entusman #24
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
January 23 2010 13:13 GMT
#4009
And there was another sunken (3) morphing which would be ready any second!
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 23 2010 13:13 GMT
#4010
On January 23 2010 22:10 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Here's what I see at the blackout time

Flash has: ~10 Marines 5+ Medics

Jaedong has 4-6 Lings, 2 irradiated ultras, one non-irradiated ultra, a defiler, also a sunken

This is exactly what I see. Unless jd had a ton of units hatching/running where the commentator didn't show it, flash was ahead.

Then again, they said jd had a larger supply, so its completely possible the other units were somewhere out there.....
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
January 23 2010 13:14 GMT
#4011
The solution to this is obvious:

The real outcome of Jaedong vs Flash will be decided when they play again for the BSL.



+ Show Spoiler +
I'm a Bisu anti-fan, but it had to be said.
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endGame
Profile Joined June 2009
United States394 Posts
January 23 2010 13:14 GMT
#4012
Its not even that battle that was really the issue. The fact was that the entire game could not be called based upon the evidence presented.
"...As the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must." -Thucydides
haley
Profile Joined February 2009
64 Posts
January 23 2010 13:15 GMT
#4013
On January 23 2010 22:10 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 22:02 BG1 wrote:
Game 3 is up with the extra 30 secs of footage that wasn't shown by kespa playback

(start minute 18)

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_AdKktRlSc&feature=sub



Note that all of Flashes forces got killed. 2sunks ready with ultra + defiler and swarm, 7 was safe.


There was more to the video than this. I saw on the replay that Flash's forces fought all the way back down again into JD's expo. Why are they not showing it?

I am 100% sure I saw that, too. I want to see that and the supposed extra footage that came after that.
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
January 23 2010 13:15 GMT
#4014
flash had 1 group of rines near the expo and if you watch mini map closely you see another yellow line of dudes comming up, now that can either be the scv that are transfered or another 10 marines (10 raxes) in wich case I wouldnt be so sure if jd cudve hold that expo.
gaiabulbanix
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Thailand76 Posts
January 23 2010 13:15 GMT
#4015
On January 23 2010 22:05 machinus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 22:02 gaiabulbanix wrote:
Lol somehow I get this feeling inside that JD fans are sitting in their chairs thinking (Thank God it ended like that) because if you think about it, a trophy is still a trophy, and in the end it will still be in the books that JD won this MSL and that Flash didn't.... Power outage and fairness aside, a winner was declared, so T.T.. I mean like, for example, in soccer, if there's a penalty that is taking place, and a random fan from the stands jumps in front of the ball in mid-air and blocks it (Highly improbable, but just saying :D) - we will never know on whether or not it was going in, because we never got to see it happen. And then let's say that the refs decide that it was most likely to go in according to it's trajectory, and award it to the penalty taker, and it so happens to be the winning penalty of the game, in the end one team one and the other lost. Was it fair? I highly doubt it. The point is the fans of the winning team will be, no matter how much they try to hide it, happy that the team they cheered for won (And for the very same reason why, the fans of the losing team will always think of it as unfair, blame the ref, etc etc).


I disagree completely...true fans of the game don't want their team to win at any cost. It is not about the trophy. It is about love of the game - skilled, honorable opponents, playing THE GAME, not winning because of bullshit rulings. If you like winning on technicalities you are just an infant, you are not a true fan of the sport.


Lol i'm not saying that's my belief, but I was just trying to make a comparison to professional soccer... Fans go ballistic when their team wins, even if it was due to a devastating refereeing mistake that was blatantly obvious, they just support their team so much that they don't mind what happened. Look at Ireland vs France for example... After Henry's obvious handball which led to a goal (Which was allowed), Ireland fans and supporters were extremely angry. France wasn't so noisy . But enough of this, in the end the MSL did not go according to plan, and they can't exactly take the trophy away from JD and have them go at it again >.<.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
January 23 2010 13:15 GMT
#4016
On January 23 2010 22:08 orgolove wrote:
Heater for 5th Bonjwa.

[image loading]


"I'll see you in the finals."
-Radiation Heater

lololol

ROFL
BW fighting!
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
January 23 2010 13:15 GMT
#4017
On January 23 2010 22:12 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 22:10 Qwertify wrote:
On January 23 2010 22:02 BG1 wrote:
Game 3 is up with the extra 30 secs of footage that wasn't shown by kespa playback

(start minute 18)

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_AdKktRlSc&feature=sub



Note that all of Flashes forces got killed. 2sunks ready with ultra + defiler and swarm, 7 was safe.


There was more to the video than this. I saw on the replay that Flash's forces fought all the way back down again into JD's expo. Why are they not showing it?

dude that youtube video is exactly what happened, scroll backward and you will probably see the battle you are thinking of


Oh sorry - I scrolled past the ending to a replay. Watching now.
CJ Entusman #24
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-23 13:16:41
January 23 2010 13:15 GMT
#4018
On January 23 2010 22:15 haley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 22:10 Qwertify wrote:
On January 23 2010 22:02 BG1 wrote:
Game 3 is up with the extra 30 secs of footage that wasn't shown by kespa playback

(start minute 18)

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_AdKktRlSc&feature=sub



Note that all of Flashes forces got killed. 2sunks ready with ultra + defiler and swarm, 7 was safe.


There was more to the video than this. I saw on the replay that Flash's forces fought all the way back down again into JD's expo. Why are they not showing it?

I am 100% sure I saw that, too. I want to see that and the supposed extra footage that came after that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_AdKktRlSc#t=18m

uh. why is this not embedding.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
January 23 2010 13:17 GMT
#4019
After the blackout they should have played another Bo5 - if Flash wins, then they replay game 3 - if JD wins they give him game 3. Totally fair IMO
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 23 2010 13:17 GMT
#4020
This is the future of MSL.

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