EPTMSL took a giant shit on both the players.
That's pretty much all that can be said for this horrible horrible night we've witnessed.
[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 188
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
MSL took a giant shit on both the players. That's pretty much all that can be said for this horrible horrible night we've witnessed. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Except in that second game where Flash dominated Jaedong from start to finish. But since Jaedong won against a mentally raped Flash after being given a free win by KESPA he's probably bonjwa DOMINATED FROM START TO FINISH? rofl Are you a newb to Starcraft or what? Jaedong had the much better opening, had five bases to Flash's two. Flash owned JD's guardians the dropship play was genius. But Flash has NEVER been the one in control the WHOLE series. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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zzzzsleepyhead
United States103 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:09 Fzero wrote: I'm so upset with this I can't even imagine watching another starcraft match right now. And winner's league is coming up. Fuck. I understand your hurt feelings but you better tune in for some TSL action tomorrow..... If anything it will restore your faith in SC!!!! TSL Gogo. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:01 Vasoline73 wrote: Quit trolling Flash fans, you have 4000 posts. Yeah JD if you didn't mess up in game 2 you would have won! Yeah Flash if you didn't mess up in game 1 you would have won! And then you would have been up 2-0 wow so cool! See the problem with that logic. JD definitely could have messed up in game 3 and like I said game 4 was ruined by external events. you should know by now that not only does shikyo troll, but his knowledge of the game is lol terrible at best. He was the one who claimed Jaedong had 5 gas as if he had it for 5 minutes long to be pumping 50 ultras. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:10 o[twist] wrote: i and most others disagree that flash dominated jaedong second game. jaedong went guards which was silly. gg I fail to see how Jaedong's win in set 1 was any more convincing than Flash's win in set 2. Both happened because the other player made a silly mistake in a crucial moment (Jaedong wasting his guardians, and Flash putting up an atrocious muta defense). | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote: OBVIOUSLY FLASH SUCKS FOR NOT PLAYING PERFECT STARCRAFT AFTER HAVING A WIN HANDED OVER TO HIS OPPONENT AND HAVING HIS TEAM AND COACH FIGHT WITH REFS FOR AN HOUR AND HAVING HIS DAD ESCORTED AWAY BY SECURITY if only flash was good enough to wipe his mind clear of all that like the bonjwa jaedong then maybe he would deserve a starleague title but lol he sucks I agree, one would expect so much more from a 17 year old. | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:00 Qwertify wrote: Jaedong thumbed down Odd-eye because he knows that Flash and Terrans in general have an advantage against Zerg. I, along with many experts, would have expected Flash to have taken this game. However, Jaedong somehow was able to save his 3rd. But then, Flash came along with 50 marines and took it down, along with a good number of lings and ultras. Then Flash swung around to take out another expo. I thought it was over for JD. Then JD, out of no where, flanks around with a bunch of cows and lings, and wipes up Flash's army before he can take out the base. JD gets his 3rd back up and takes a fifth @ 7. Flash puts pressure on this but, with a defiler, literally at 5 or so HP casts a dark swarm and then another, and pushes Flash back. With the nydus there and defilers, and with Flash's low Vessel count, Jaedong had the advantage, with the addition of having map control. It was true that Flash could have come back. It was unlikely however given that JD had map control. The person really robbed here was Jaedong. To take a win, on heavily favored Terran map, against someone so deadly against Zerg as Flash, that would have been JD's greatest accomplishment, or one of his greatest. The fact that JD couldn't get Flash to type gg - that is just extremely dis-satisfactory. This is what I think we'll all hear tomorrow from anyone brave enough to comment on the whole.. situation.. Day[9], Artosis, etc? | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:09 o[twist] wrote: frankly i think it's bullshit. you've probably never been in a situation remotely comparable to flash's and while i don't doubt that you can imagine or read about or figure out scientifically how he was feeling you obviously haven't done so. if i were flash i would have been absolutely crushed and might've lifted all my buildings on a whim or built supply depots saying fuck you kespa fuck you mbc. im not sure why you're making it personal, but yeah you're right, i've never been in an msl where a power outage abruptly cut my game and my dad got mad in front of a thousand people in front of my biggest rival. and thank you for sharing your possible reaction to the matter. i'm not trying to judge. im just saying that at the end of the day, all the excuses don't matter: how you react is your choice, no matter how hard it may be. you are never forced into reacting a certain way: you might be pushed to the point of near-insurmountable emotions, but it's never insurmountable | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:09 Scaramanga wrote: Are you joking? Game 2 flash did intentionally stop the scourge, its been shown on a fpv he dose this on purpose, game 3 Flash was on 2 base vs 2 base, IT WAS EVEN (both players mains mined out, jd wasnt mining from his 4th), Game 4 flash just gave up this. | ||
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SkyTheUnknown
Germany2065 Posts
The person really robbed here was Jaedong. To take a win, on heavily favored Terran map, against someone so deadly against Zerg as Flash, that would have been JD's greatest accomplishment, or one of his greatest. The fact that JD couldn't get Flash to type gg - that is just extremely dis-satisfactory. Best summary of game 3 and best conclusion of the outcomes in this post. MSL should get nuked and replaced by GOM. GOM was much more professional with good vods and even english commentary. | ||
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:09 Scaramanga wrote: Are you joking? Game 2 flash did intentionally stop the scourge, its been shown on a fpv he dose this on purpose, game 3 Flash was on 2 base vs 2 base, IT WAS EVEN (both players mains mined out, jd wasnt mining from his 4th), Game 4 flash just gave up They didn't show in game, but JD had 3 o'clock, so JD had 4 bases in total (although only three of them were functioning and his main was probably close to being mined out). In total, JD was likely to secure 3 gas (7 o'clock had 2 gas) and 2 mineral expos while Flash was going to be left with no gas and 1 mineral expo. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:11 SuperArc wrote: DOMINATED FROM START TO FINISH? rofl Are you a newb to Starcraft or what? Jaedong had the much better opening, had five bases to Flash's two. Flash owned JD's guardians the dropship play was genius. But Flash has NEVER been the one in control the WHOLE series. you're right, jaedong played so well flash just won by luck he played like shit in game 2 jaedong is bonjwa 4ever | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
5311 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: lol i can't actually fucking believe anyone is pretending this final was in any way legitimate or well done jaedong fanboys can be quite persuasive | ||
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Fx_
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BG1
Canada1550 Posts
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dasanivan
United States532 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: you're right, jaedong played so well flash just won by luck he played like shit in game 2 jaedong is bonjwa 4ever No as I said Flash won by his genius dropship play. But you're ridiculous if you say Flash dominated game from start to finish. | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
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spetial
United States688 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:05 Armathai wrote: Sad Stuff, oh well, I'm sure they'll make it up to each other with some brutal practice games or something somehow. I really thought they would be more fucking TECH SAVVY though, I mean really, couldn't they reconstruct the entire game using the mapdori team + replays + vods in 1hour instead of this decision? this is what im thinking | ||
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