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AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
January 19 2010 18:11 GMT
#721
@Revy: Recent statistics alone do not prove anything. First of all, you're leaving out the skill level of all the players and the map pool. Secondly, statistics as small as 30 or 40 games don't mean crap, this game is 10 years old, you have to look at the bigger picture with a large sample amount.

Metagame will always change, you can't look at recent data alone, you have to look at older data as well to understand the matchup better. You have to consider who played who, and under what conditions.


Why can't you just admit TvZ is the most imbalanced matchup ever? And always will be
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
January 19 2010 18:13 GMT
#722
On January 20 2010 03:11 Vasoline73 wrote:
lol one game by the best terran late game ever against a zerg really not known for great late game vT proves that defiler ultra is now obsolete. Solid post Azure


Way to jump to assumptions. First of all, its not just that one game, Terrans have been massing tanks recently to fight off hive tech. And yes, I do know Flash has good TvZ and Calm has bad ZvT. I've always been saying TvZ was imba even before this match, I wasn't basing it off of this match

Are all T's arrogant and denying?
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
January 19 2010 18:16 GMT
#723
Man Hoejja played BRILLIANTLY. I thought he was def gonna lose when Kal secured 6 with reavers. Way to claw it back with drops freaking EVERYWHERE, sick plagues, sick micro. Hoejja was just a massive massive beast that game. Awesome.

Flash on the other hand needs to be in jail. I don't care if he's underage, rape is rape.
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
January 19 2010 18:18 GMT
#724
On January 19 2010 20:36 pripple wrote:
oh how i hope JD 4pools Flash every game in the MSL finals, tired of this bunkershit ;<


8 rax u have 2 marines out to stop lings xd
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 19 2010 18:21 GMT
#725
On January 20 2010 03:16 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Flash on the other hand needs to be in jail. I don't care if he's underage, rape is rape.


Pretty much. What an incredible run.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 19 2010 18:39 GMT
#726
I am very surprised by the lack of cheese Flash encounters. Hardly anyone tries to cheese him.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 19 2010 18:41 GMT
#727
woot flash

if it works dont stop lol
Forever Young
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 19 2010 18:42 GMT
#728
This entire series, except for game 3, was a single ridiculous cheesefest. Come to think of it, you'd think people wouldn't go FE against Flash all the time. The set 5-scenario has happened WAY to many times lately. Flash is getting it way to easy atm...
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 19 2010 18:48 GMT
#729
Lol (T)Flash is (Z)Just warming up for (Z)Jaedong... (Z)Nice test for him playing against (Z)hero and (Z)Calm...
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
January 19 2010 18:53 GMT
#730
On January 20 2010 03:48 torm3ntin wrote:
Lol (T)Flash is (Z)Just warming up for (Z)Jaedong... (Z)Nice test for him playing against (Z)hero and (Z)Calm...


used to many tlpd? lol
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-19 19:01:26
January 19 2010 19:00 GMT
#731
On January 20 2010 03:13 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2010 03:11 Vasoline73 wrote:
lol one game by the best terran late game ever against a zerg really not known for great late game vT proves that defiler ultra is now obsolete. Solid post Azure


Way to jump to assumptions. First of all, its not just that one game, Terrans have been massing tanks recently to fight off hive tech. And yes, I do know Flash has good TvZ and Calm has bad ZvT. I've always been saying TvZ was imba even before this match, I wasn't basing it off of this match

Are all T's arrogant and denying?

What's the use? Are you trying to justify a hate towards Terrans beating Zergs?

Regardless of whether or not a MU is imbalanced, the topic should never be brought up as an argument.

EDIT: Or as a reason to bitch and whine.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 19 2010 19:00 GMT
#732
On January 20 2010 03:53 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2010 03:48 torm3ntin wrote:
Lol (T)Flash is (Z)Just warming up for (Z)Jaedong... (Z)Nice test for him playing against (Z)hero and (Z)Calm...


used to many tlpd? lol


rofl :D

maybe it's some sort of implication that Just and Nice are also his warmup for hero and Jaedong!!!!!1111
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 19 2010 19:00 GMT
#733
lol @ bunker rush.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
January 19 2010 19:10 GMT
#734
Why isn't anyone talking about Hoejja's brilliant play in game 3? :<

Without him, Flash never would have even had a chance to play. And he played phenomenal...
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
January 19 2010 19:13 GMT
#735
On January 20 2010 04:10 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Why isn't anyone talking about Hoejja's brilliant play in game 3? :<

Without him, Flash never would have even had a chance to play. And he played phenomenal...


Was it Hoejja's brilliant play or Kal's mistake to not leave reavers and HT at his bases?
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8173 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-19 19:18:54
January 19 2010 19:18 GMT
#736
On January 20 2010 04:10 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Why isn't anyone talking about Hoejja's brilliant play in game 3? :<

Without him, Flash never would have even had a chance to play. And he played phenomenal...


I'm probably a bit biased but it seems to me like hoejja got a little lucky catching kal's army out of position and was just able to snipe nexus' really quick.

That game I felt Kal definitely outplayed Hoejja but just blew it with a few mistakes :\
Free Palestine
TimmyMac
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada499 Posts
January 19 2010 19:20 GMT
#737
On January 19 2010 20:34 Warrior Madness wrote:
Flash is unbeatable.... If you go three hatch into guardians like an idiot he kills your 3rd expo with his aggresive rines.


yup this
TimmyMac
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada499 Posts
January 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#738
On January 20 2010 04:18 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2010 04:10 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Why isn't anyone talking about Hoejja's brilliant play in game 3? :<

Without him, Flash never would have even had a chance to play. And he played phenomenal...


I'm probably a bit biased but it seems to me like hoejja got a little lucky catching kal's army out of position and was just able to snipe nexus' really quick.

That's like saying a terran gets lucky when a zerg leaves his expos with 2 sunkens and no lurkers defilers or nydus
Moridin
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria167 Posts
January 19 2010 19:32 GMT
#739
Can someone translate it, please? http://www.wfbrood.com/xingji/hanguoxingji/xingji_44518.html
It's about time.
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
January 19 2010 19:37 GMT
#740
Lol, Flash entering the WL being on fire this much is scary. This is going to be scarier than the JD from the times of JaedongOz. I think current Flash is harder to beat than JD at that time, and his supporting cast is way better than what the Dong had.
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