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[OSL] EVER OSL Semi-Final A: Flash vs Calm - Page 6

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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
January 01 2010 03:26 GMT
#101
On January 01 2010 12:07 Warrior Madness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 09:56 nozaro33 wrote:
Is it Calm or Clam that Flash will be facing?


Does it matter?

This.

Even fantasy with his meh'ish bio could go 3-1 against Calm. I don't see how Flash isn't going to 3-0 this noob.

Having said that, I'm really do hope Calm can bring his A-game to the match.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 01 2010 03:37 GMT
#102
On January 01 2010 11:48 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 11:22 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 01 2010 11:10 Hinanawi wrote:
On January 01 2010 11:00 blade55555 wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:56 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:44 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:39 Ver wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:00 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On January 01 2010 08:07 Ver wrote:
On January 01 2010 08:00 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Eye of the Storm is the only map that favors ZvT. The rest seem fairly statistically balanced. Let's see if Calm can exploit something.


Every map in OSL is great for ZvT.

No. Try looking harder.


Right, sorry. I forgot random TLers know more about maps than Flash because they can quote tlpd.

Which interview is this from?


Q: Still, you can’t take the next games lightly.
A: The maps are good for Zerg, so I knew game one was a must win. So I prepared for game one like it as do-or-die. Zerg is good on Heartbreak and Eye of the Storm, so I’ll have to work hard to stay sharp and have some good games.

He didn't mention El Nino because that wasn't in his map pool vs Jaedong, but Fighting Spirit is supposedly more doable for TvZ according to him.

That means, as far as we know, it's 1-2 in favor of zerg (1 is Fighting Spirit, 2 is HBR and Eye Of the Storm). It really comes down to El nino though since it's the first map and goes twice.


So because flash says it automatically means its true? lol please.


HBR has always been good for Zerg. Even though the TvZ stats on it look balanced, the number of ZvZs on it are more than double the number of TvTs, showing how comfortable people are about sending Zergs out on it (I'm looking at old HBR's stats, since it's a bigger sample). I think it's pretty close to balanced TvZ, certainly nothing any Zerg should complain about.

Eye of the Storm hasn't had many games played on it, but it's 4-7 so far in favor of Zerg. I think Flash knows better than you do about how it is balance-wise in his thousands of practice games, too.

Flash isn't the type to lie about maps being 'bad' for his race, either. He openly said that Ultimatum was imba in favor of Terran in one of his interviews, for example.


Actually the influx of zergs on that map is because zerg is favored over protoos, protoss favored over terran, but terran merely balanced with zerg.

And does anyone remember for the WCG set between Bisu and Flash, Bisu said the maps were hard for protoss and Flash said the maps were hard for terran?


Well Bisu is a whiny bitch.

Lol really? loooool
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 01 2010 03:39 GMT
#103
On January 01 2010 12:37 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 11:48 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 01 2010 11:22 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 01 2010 11:10 Hinanawi wrote:
On January 01 2010 11:00 blade55555 wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:56 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:44 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:39 Ver wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:00 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On January 01 2010 08:07 Ver wrote:
[quote]

Every map in OSL is great for ZvT.

No. Try looking harder.


Right, sorry. I forgot random TLers know more about maps than Flash because they can quote tlpd.

Which interview is this from?


Q: Still, you can’t take the next games lightly.
A: The maps are good for Zerg, so I knew game one was a must win. So I prepared for game one like it as do-or-die. Zerg is good on Heartbreak and Eye of the Storm, so I’ll have to work hard to stay sharp and have some good games.

He didn't mention El Nino because that wasn't in his map pool vs Jaedong, but Fighting Spirit is supposedly more doable for TvZ according to him.

That means, as far as we know, it's 1-2 in favor of zerg (1 is Fighting Spirit, 2 is HBR and Eye Of the Storm). It really comes down to El nino though since it's the first map and goes twice.


So because flash says it automatically means its true? lol please.


HBR has always been good for Zerg. Even though the TvZ stats on it look balanced, the number of ZvZs on it are more than double the number of TvTs, showing how comfortable people are about sending Zergs out on it (I'm looking at old HBR's stats, since it's a bigger sample). I think it's pretty close to balanced TvZ, certainly nothing any Zerg should complain about.

Eye of the Storm hasn't had many games played on it, but it's 4-7 so far in favor of Zerg. I think Flash knows better than you do about how it is balance-wise in his thousands of practice games, too.

Flash isn't the type to lie about maps being 'bad' for his race, either. He openly said that Ultimatum was imba in favor of Terran in one of his interviews, for example.


Actually the influx of zergs on that map is because zerg is favored over protoos, protoss favored over terran, but terran merely balanced with zerg.

And does anyone remember for the WCG set between Bisu and Flash, Bisu said the maps were hard for protoss and Flash said the maps were hard for terran?


Well Bisu is a whiny bitch.

Lol really? loooool


WHINAY

BEEYATCH

gonna rename him Bitchsu.
Remember Violet.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 01 2010 03:40 GMT
#104
Flash vs Calm drinking game to help you enjoy new year's eve. take a drink:

-every game calm wins
-every time flash does a build that's not 1-rax into CC
-every time a discussion on whether something is "all-in" spans more than a page
-every time flash's ruler appears on screen
-every time calm is called a noob (limit 1 per hour)
-every time a meta-discussion about LR threads lasts more than a page
-if idra posts at least once, two drinks if someone insults idra about bm or something
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
January 01 2010 03:41 GMT
#105
On January 01 2010 12:37 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 11:48 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 01 2010 11:22 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 01 2010 11:10 Hinanawi wrote:
On January 01 2010 11:00 blade55555 wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:56 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:44 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:39 Ver wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:00 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On January 01 2010 08:07 Ver wrote:
[quote]

Every map in OSL is great for ZvT.

No. Try looking harder.


Right, sorry. I forgot random TLers know more about maps than Flash because they can quote tlpd.

Which interview is this from?


Q: Still, you can’t take the next games lightly.
A: The maps are good for Zerg, so I knew game one was a must win. So I prepared for game one like it as do-or-die. Zerg is good on Heartbreak and Eye of the Storm, so I’ll have to work hard to stay sharp and have some good games.

He didn't mention El Nino because that wasn't in his map pool vs Jaedong, but Fighting Spirit is supposedly more doable for TvZ according to him.

That means, as far as we know, it's 1-2 in favor of zerg (1 is Fighting Spirit, 2 is HBR and Eye Of the Storm). It really comes down to El nino though since it's the first map and goes twice.


So because flash says it automatically means its true? lol please.


HBR has always been good for Zerg. Even though the TvZ stats on it look balanced, the number of ZvZs on it are more than double the number of TvTs, showing how comfortable people are about sending Zergs out on it (I'm looking at old HBR's stats, since it's a bigger sample). I think it's pretty close to balanced TvZ, certainly nothing any Zerg should complain about.

Eye of the Storm hasn't had many games played on it, but it's 4-7 so far in favor of Zerg. I think Flash knows better than you do about how it is balance-wise in his thousands of practice games, too.

Flash isn't the type to lie about maps being 'bad' for his race, either. He openly said that Ultimatum was imba in favor of Terran in one of his interviews, for example.


Actually the influx of zergs on that map is because zerg is favored over protoos, protoss favored over terran, but terran merely balanced with zerg.

And does anyone remember for the WCG set between Bisu and Flash, Bisu said the maps were hard for protoss and Flash said the maps were hard for terran?


Well Bisu is a whiny bitch.

Lol really? loooool


THAT is one epicly long quote.
Dota 3hard5me
QuanChi
Profile Joined February 2003
Brazil133 Posts
January 01 2010 03:48 GMT
#106
H
Y
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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
there and back again
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 01 2010 03:57 GMT
#107
Calm will crush Flash very badly as expected.
Brood War loyalist
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
January 01 2010 03:58 GMT
#108
On January 01 2010 12:57 meegrean wrote:
Calm will crush Flash very badly as expected.

Expected by who?
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 01 2010 03:59 GMT
#109
flash has also said he had difficult time practicing on El Nino in one of the interviews I translated on.
But he only said practice was hard so I have no idea how he feels about that now
dats racist
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
January 01 2010 04:03 GMT
#110
On January 01 2010 12:59 MrHoon wrote:
flash has also said he had difficult time practicing on El Nino in one of the interviews I translated on.
But he only said practice was hard so I have no idea how he feels about that now

"It's so hard that none of my teammates wanna help me because I crush every single one of them in less than 10 minutes Q.Q"

I think that's what he meant
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 01 2010 04:04 GMT
#111
On January 01 2010 12:57 meegrean wrote:
Calm will crush Flash very badly as expected.


If he does a bad job of crushing Flash, does that mean Flash will win?

go go semantics.
Remember Violet.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10340 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 04:20:45
January 01 2010 04:17 GMT
#112
Everyone's talking about maps so in the slight chance Calm actually wins, everyone can nerd-rage about the maps.
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Faranth
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
933 Posts
January 01 2010 04:20 GMT
#113
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 01 2010 04:32 GMT
#114
On January 01 2010 13:17 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Everyone's talking about maps so in the slight chance Calm actually wins, everyone can nerd-rage about the maps.


Easy for you to say. Calm fans are in an easy position. Calm has nothing to lose and if he wins it's an incredible validation of being his fan. If he gets crushed no one will remember the ridiculous Calm fans trying to will themselves into thinking that he's so smart he can overcome his gross deficiencies as a standard player in a BO5.

You're actually not doing anything ballsy by supporting Calm. It's one of the best positions to be in as a fan, in fact.

TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 01 2010 04:32 GMT
#115
Calm has a much better shot at taking games off Flash than the others. The other games were Bo1 blunders for the most part, all embarssing but for the most part he played pretty well, only collapsing late in the game.

Well practiced and with a focused mind, Calm is the second biggest non protoss threat against Flash in a Bo5. (Some may argue Effort but I think he's a little fresh and untested, as well as being the kind of "safe" zerg that Flash macro rolls pretty well).
Remember Violet.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 01 2010 04:35 GMT
#116
On January 01 2010 13:20 Faranth wrote:
Given that Calm has been losing to high(er) level Terran like Fantasy and Light frequently over the past month or so... and Flash has been absolutely dominating the likes of Jaedong... 3-0 curbstomp incoming.


Ok how is Flash "dominating Jaedong" when they only played 1 straight up game 2nd one being cheese? I wouldn't consider that "dominating" unless he 3-0's Jaedong no problem in MSL I believe it is assuming they both make it to play eachother? I sure hope so because if it does happen and flash does 3-0 jaedong like slaughters I will stop replying to posts like this.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 04:40:30
January 01 2010 04:39 GMT
#117
On January 01 2010 13:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Calm has a much better shot at taking games off Flash than the others. The other games were Bo1 blunders for the most part, all embarssing but for the most part he played pretty well, only collapsing late in the game.

Well practiced and with a focused mind, Calm is the second biggest non protoss threat against Flash in a Bo5. (Some may argue Effort but I think he's a little fresh and untested, as well as being the kind of "safe" zerg that Flash macro rolls pretty well).


Whaaaaa??? Calm over Effort, and ZERO? I don't think so. Zero's game 3 versus flash was a lot closer than most people made it out to be, and I wonder what kind of chorus we'd all be singing if Zero was a bit better with his mutas, and had he not lost his first three guardians carelessly.

This is the Alcoholics Anonymous drinking game for the new years: Every time Calm wins a game, have a shot.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 01 2010 04:45 GMT
#118
Flash's mind games are getting pretty good. Effort's macro is good and ZerO's muta micro is good but when you're playing a Bo5 those things become less important than knowing what your opponent is going to do based on the situation, and Calm is good at that.

I'd say Calm is the #2 Zerg right now. Effort and ZerO are amazing but they're not as complete as Calm.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 01 2010 04:46 GMT
#119
On January 01 2010 13:17 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Everyone's talking about maps so in the slight chance Calm actually wins, everyone can nerd-rage about the maps.


I don't think anyone will do that. If Calm wins, it's because he absolutely deserved to win. No doubt he's been practicing just as hard as Flash for this series.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
ChoBz
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada836 Posts
January 01 2010 04:48 GMT
#120
3-0 Flash!
ChoBz
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