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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
 Stork's PvZ has been very strong of late but... EffOrt is 19-3 in ZvP since April, working on an 11 game winning streak, and has rolled Stork twice in this run. The alien has to be the favorite. Ideally CJ 3-1's here, with  TurN taking his game by doing something crazy. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On December 29 2009 00:35 KvkG wrote: Why the hell is Hydra being sent out more and more? Doesn't CJ have the deepest zerg lineup ever? Why the hell would they send out a rookie zerg like Hydra time and time again? They are sending out a rookie zerg, any other team's player would lose like 70-80% of his matches, Hydra wins at least 50%. Even with one of the strongest lineup the rookie trio, CJ keeps building for the future. This is how a team should be run! | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On December 29 2009 03:30 SuperArc wrote: They are sending out a rookie zerg, any other team's player would lose like 70-80% of his matches, Hydra wins at least 50%. Even with one of the strongest lineup the rookie trio, CJ keeps building for the future. This is how a team should be run! I'm a Khan fan but true that man. I've got nothing but respect for CJ's coach. Who did win the best coach of the year award? I really think CJ's coach should have won (in case he didn't). | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On December 29 2009 03:34 StorkHwaiting wrote: I'm a Khan fan but true that man. I've got nothing but respect for CJ's coach. Who did win the best coach of the year award? I really think CJ's coach should have won (in case he didn't). SKT's did, because he won PL. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On December 29 2009 03:34 StorkHwaiting wrote: I'm a Khan fan but true that man. I've got nothing but respect for CJ's coach. Who did win the best coach of the year award? I really think CJ's coach should have won (in case he didn't). SKT's coach won. To be fair, SKT's coach actually deserved it. Before he came, SKT was falling apart for some reason. After he came, SKT magically became #1 again. I am not sure what he did, but he achieved results. But, I agree with you that the CJ coach deserve a big fat award. The guy held his team together during the toughest of times. Before CJ sponsored his team, Cho's team was always one of the poorest. Yet the guy got a talent for finding talented rookies and breeding them into amazingly strong players. Nal_ra, Reach and several other famous players had their roots in Cho's team, but they left when Cho simply isn't capable of giving them the salary that they deserve. That's the story of CJ, always losing talents left and right, but breeding and gaining them everyday as well through Cho's nurturing. Stork v.s. Effort is definitely a must see. Stork is looking hot, but as somebody else pointed out, Effort is the ultimate ZvP specialist with 75% win rate. The Protoss that he destroyed are no rookies either. Although I do find it funny that he is 0-3 against Bisu, but 2-0 against Stork. | ||
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JodoYodo
Canada1772 Posts
great > Skyhigh I'm surprised so many people are saying Skyhigh will win this Turn < Hydra Hydra has been playing pretty well lately in the few games we've seen him play M18M < Movie ezpz | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On December 29 2009 05:03 lone_hydra wrote: Stork... you gonna show us your revolutionary PvZ? Or you gonna save it for the next starleague and get rolled but mass mutas again? Protoss losing to mutas is about the worst thing that can happen imo so boring..it's like, "gj you won without doing a single thing" | ||
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yhnmk
Canada630 Posts
Stork < EffOrtgreat > sKyHighTurN > HydraM18M < MovieStork < EffOrtEdit: Rationalizations, efforts zvp is far beyond storks pvz, and skyhigh is terrible so great should win. Movie is obviously better than the no namer toss khan sent out, and turn's been very impressive but im not certain on that prediction. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + predator wins | ||
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RaiSad
United States325 Posts
damm he's hot now | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On December 29 2009 03:30 SuperArc wrote: They are sending out a rookie zerg, any other team's player would lose like 70-80% of his matches, Hydra wins at least 50%. Even with one of the strongest lineup the rookie trio, CJ keeps building for the future. This is how a team should be run! Imho, there is nobody on CJ who clearly deserves the 4th slot, so he has to change around the lineup every week to see who is doing well. Like what khan is doing is training their nublets. Like khan's line up is already pretty much set. great-stork-jangbi-fbh. Turn can replace fbh every once in a while, but M18M is not good enough for jangbi yet. And odin is definitely not good enough for great, although odin is not really new. | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
EASIEST 3-0! | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On December 29 2009 03:30 SuperArc wrote: They are sending out a rookie zerg, any other team's player would lose like 70-80% of his matches, Hydra wins at least 50%. Even with one of the strongest lineup the rookie trio, CJ keeps building for the future. This is how a team should be run! Hydra likely got sent out on Outsider with the intention of sniping great. We've never seen Hydra's ZvT, and his ZvP is a work in progress, but his ZvZ seems very solid, and an excellent reason to keep playing him. Also, someone above dismissed M18M against Movie, which is a mistake I think. I'm still not convinced of Movie's proleague stability, and M18M is not a bad protoss at all. If he was on Hwaseung, we'd see him every match. | ||
Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
I'll be streaming, but I'll likely be streaming Sea v Jaedong instead of either Turn v Hydra or M18M v Movie (if the games go that fast) because that match up is just too epic. http://tv.zeroboy.net/mystlord | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32277 Posts
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
 Movie will still probably win - but it isn't going to be a cakewalk like some of you keep implying | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On December 29 2009 05:10 Xxio wrote: Protoss losing to mutas is about the worst thing that can happen imo so boring..it's like, "gj you won without doing a single thing" effort plays nothing like shine, he goes standard almost every game and wins with mechanics | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On December 29 2009 07:55 jalstar wrote: effort plays nothing like shine, he goes standard almost every game and wins with mechanics That is why I am not a big fan of Effort. He overwhelms opponents with mechanics and wins even though he makes strategical mistakes here and there. I'd like him more if he shows out of the ordinary stuff sometimes or if his play feels more genious rather than super robot. But I guess that's what makes him such a ZvP beast. | ||
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