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On December 29 2009 18:59 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2009 18:56 darktreb wrote: Ahhh a throwback by Stork to the days when he his PvZ was legendarily BAD....
I find it funny how many people on TL nowadays don't know that Stork was once known as much for his PvZ ineptitude as his PvT/PvP prowess. Was it worse than Jangbi's and Best's? i mean 4th among Dragons isnt that bad... i would say it was worse than jangbi's but better than best's best's pvz back then was such lol (not that it's great now or anything)
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On December 29 2009 18:57 Salteador Neo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2009 18:56 InDaHouse wrote:On December 29 2009 18:52 writer22816 wrote: Stork could really use Bisu's probe micro lol No Bisu likes to hold position goons in front of tanks And yet he is 2-6 against Flash in this year. you mean 6-2? Bisu's been owning Flash recently with only 2 losses where he dropped 1 game in a Bo3
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On December 29 2009 19:01 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2009 18:59 Chen wrote:On December 29 2009 18:56 darktreb wrote: Ahhh a throwback by Stork to the days when he his PvZ was legendarily BAD....
I find it funny how many people on TL nowadays don't know that Stork was once known as much for his PvZ ineptitude as his PvT/PvP prowess. Was it worse than Jangbi's and Best's? i mean 4th among Dragons isnt that bad... i would say it was worse than jangbi's but better than best's best's pvz back then was such lol (not that it's great now or anything) Best's pvz has shown marked improvement. I believe!!!!
Oh and Stork - WTF WAS THAT!?!?!
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Stork was never actually THAT bad at PvZ.
He was capable of winning games against anyone but he was also capable of losing to anyone, which is what this game reminded me of. Also his games lacked finesse (at least in appearance), especially relative to the period of time after Bisu's rise. Stork actually took a fair number of games off of Savior (back when Savior was literally invincible at the matchup) but he never managed to take full series.
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great sends his ovie cross position. I smell map hax!
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On December 29 2009 19:00 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2009 13:41 AttackZerg wrote:On December 29 2009 08:15 lone_hydra wrote:On December 29 2009 07:55 jalstar wrote:On December 29 2009 05:10 Xxio wrote:On December 29 2009 05:03 lone_hydra wrote: Stork... you gonna show us your revolutionary PvZ? Or you gonna save it for the next starleague and get rolled but mass mutas again? Protoss losing to mutas is about the worst thing that can happen imo so boring..it's like, "gj you won without doing a single thing" effort plays nothing like shine, he goes standard almost every game and wins with mechanics That is why I am not a big fan of Effort. He overwhelms opponents with mechanics and wins even though he makes strategical mistakes here and there. I'd like him more if he shows out of the ordinary stuff sometimes or if his play feels more genious rather than super robot. But I guess that's what makes him such a ZvP beast. hmm actually compared to crap zergs like yellow/luxury/shine/kwanro effort is a strategical genius. Every single game he has a plan that goes from 4 drones to 40 and from 3 base to five and six. He has been a front runner in developing zvp standard play over the last six months (only behind jaedong) and zvt he is the only zerg in the world right now with a consistent midgame AND lategame plan. Anybody who wants to learn how zerg should be played needs to watch effort his understanding and lategame in both zvp and zvt are insanely deep not to mention he is a mechanical genius with 100 less apm then jaedong ..... I mean really ... how is that even possible ... I am curious as how you think that YellOw[Arnc], Luxury(who teared like everything up round 1), Shine (who tears up everything atm), and Kwanro? Please, if you are gonna use the "aggressive zerg noob player" against them and hate them. One of the most beloved zergs in the world with what people has called GODLY zvp consistent throughout history, then look at Julyzerg. He is aggressive, cheesy, (and even more focused on the early game than Shine for example) and he is loved. Explain to me, why. He has charisma, he was the star of his race rather the umpteenth up and comer who people expect to fade into nothingness like Luxury, Type-B and Kwanro, He changes styles sometimes and shows godly micro that makes you go wow, (despite the fact that Shine wins, its hardly impressive how he does it) July actually has a lategame, which fans love to see. Whatever you say about shine, his Defiler control is abysmal. and it helps that he waited until he was established to knock off well-liked players.
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On December 29 2009 19:03 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Best's pvz has shown marked improvement. I believe!!!!
I actually agree.
Anyway, I'm confident SkyHigh will win, but I think we have a better shot at an Ace match if SkyHigh loses, now that Khan is behind.
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not too many PvZ experts right now, all I can think of is Bisu and Movie. BeSt shows more promise than Stork because of his incredible micro.
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On December 29 2009 19:08 FireGuyX wrote: not too many PvZ experts right now, all I can think of is Bisu and Movie. BeSt shows more promise than Stork because of his incredible micro.
Violet and Kal.
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On December 29 2009 19:06 Chen wrote: He has charisma, he was the star of his race rather the umpteenth up and comer who people expect to fade into nothingness like Luxury, Type-B and Kwanro While it is certainly true for Lux, type-b's career is just under way, I feel, and I would like to point out that Kwanro is in the MSL quarterfinals, yet again.
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On December 29 2009 19:09 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2009 19:08 FireGuyX wrote: not too many PvZ experts right now, all I can think of is Bisu and Movie. BeSt shows more promise than Stork because of his incredible micro. Violet and Kal. Violet's worst MU is vs Zerg. statistically anyways.
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violet hasnt played enough vZ games vs strong zergs (effort, jaedong, hero) to tell. kal seems to be pretty good at the moment though
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On December 29 2009 19:11 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2009 19:06 Chen wrote: He has charisma, he was the star of his race rather the umpteenth up and comer who people expect to fade into nothingness like Luxury, Type-B and Kwanro While it is certainly true for Lux, type-b's career is just under way, I feel, and I would like to point out that Kwanro is in the MSL quarterfinals, yet again. better phrasing would probably be another no-name zerg that most people feel doesnt deserve his spot in the semi's/finals
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On December 29 2009 19:14 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2009 19:11 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On December 29 2009 19:06 Chen wrote: He has charisma, he was the star of his race rather the umpteenth up and comer who people expect to fade into nothingness like Luxury, Type-B and Kwanro While it is certainly true for Lux, type-b's career is just under way, I feel, and I would like to point out that Kwanro is in the MSL quarterfinals, yet again. better phrasing would probably be another no-name zerg that most people feel doesnt deserve his spot in the semi's/finals Gotcha.
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I've always felt free had solid PvZ but he's been rather shaky as of late.
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On December 29 2009 19:01 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2009 18:59 Chen wrote:On December 29 2009 18:56 darktreb wrote: Ahhh a throwback by Stork to the days when he his PvZ was legendarily BAD....
I find it funny how many people on TL nowadays don't know that Stork was once known as much for his PvZ ineptitude as his PvT/PvP prowess. Was it worse than Jangbi's and Best's? i mean 4th among Dragons isnt that bad... i would say it was worse than jangbi's but better than best's best's pvz back then was such lol (not that it's great now or anything) Well if were going to go really back to storks pvz incompetence, that was well before the dragon era. And I'd say it was at least on par with bests in that case. 48-52% sort of deal, complete lack of game sense or proper decisions, winning on mechanics, etc. Like 2006 stork pvz.
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On December 29 2009 19:14 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2009 19:11 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On December 29 2009 19:06 Chen wrote: He has charisma, he was the star of his race rather the umpteenth up and comer who people expect to fade into nothingness like Luxury, Type-B and Kwanro While it is certainly true for Lux, type-b's career is just under way, I feel, and I would like to point out that Kwanro is in the MSL quarterfinals, yet again. better phrasing would probably be another no-name zerg that most people feel doesnt deserve his spot in the semi's/finals
I'm not sure why you would group Lux under that, he was definitely not a no-name zerg when he won the MSL..
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On December 29 2009 19:16 Rostam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2009 19:14 Chen wrote:On December 29 2009 19:11 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On December 29 2009 19:06 Chen wrote: He has charisma, he was the star of his race rather the umpteenth up and comer who people expect to fade into nothingness like Luxury, Type-B and Kwanro While it is certainly true for Lux, type-b's career is just under way, I feel, and I would like to point out that Kwanro is in the MSL quarterfinals, yet again. better phrasing would probably be another no-name zerg that most people feel doesnt deserve his spot in the semi's/finals I'm not sure why you would group Lux under that, he was definitely not a no-name zerg when he won the MSL.. Yeah, and at least Luxury had been to semifinals before that MSL, too. People just hate zergs not named Jaedong, is all.
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skyhigh has no idea what to do lol looks like great is turtling hard for 5 gas
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