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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 29 2009 09:55 GMT
#161
On December 29 2009 18:54 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 18:49 Balfazar wrote:
Waiting for someone to say the obvious... the game was lost as soon as those 4 lings ran by the warping cannon, skill in the matchup didn't even come into it.

yeah seriously whats with all the omg effort so good stork so bad pvz in this thread? game was over because of a huge blunder on storks part. didnt even go to mid game


because people have watched effort zvp besides this game and he was the favorite anyway?
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 29 2009 09:55 GMT
#162
On December 29 2009 18:47 FireGuyX wrote:
disappointing performance from Stork, I thought Stork had one of the best PvZ? Granted Effort has very good ZvP, but still.

Bisu still has the best PvZ around
Writerptrk
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
December 29 2009 09:55 GMT
#163
Let's go great!
InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
December 29 2009 09:56 GMT
#164
On December 29 2009 18:52 writer22816 wrote:
Stork could really use Bisu's probe micro lol

No Bisu likes to hold position goons in front of tanks
Stork protoss legend
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
December 29 2009 09:56 GMT
#165
On December 29 2009 18:50 jalstar wrote:
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On December 29 2009 18:49 Titusmaster6 wrote:
I'm sure Skyhigh has prepared for this very carefully, Let's DO THIS!!


Skyhigh isn't too great besides TvT and great is underrated, should be close.


Agreed, it should be a pretty exciting matchup.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 09:56:36
December 29 2009 09:56 GMT
#166
Ahhh a throwback by Stork to the days when he his PvZ was legendarily BAD....

I find it funny how many people on TL nowadays don't know that Stork was once known as much for his PvZ ineptitude as his PvT/PvP prowess.
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
December 29 2009 09:57 GMT
#167
On December 29 2009 18:55 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 18:47 FireGuyX wrote:
disappointing performance from Stork, I thought Stork had one of the best PvZ? Granted Effort has very good ZvP, but still.

Bisu still has the best PvZ around

kal is pretty close though
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 29 2009 09:57 GMT
#168
On December 29 2009 18:56 darktreb wrote:
Ahhh a throwback by Stork to the days when he his PvZ was legendarily BAD....

I find it funny how many people on TL nowadays don't know that Stork was once known as much for his PvZ ineptitude as his PvT/PvP prowess.


I blame Bisu's failure for that. Stork/Protoss fans are just looking for a savior.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
December 29 2009 09:57 GMT
#169
On December 29 2009 18:52 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 18:49 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:48 konadora wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:38 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:34 konadora wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:32 GTR wrote:
i will do something for a savior vs fbh ace match

like

eating your underwear?



What the f*** are you talking about? And what the f*** are you on?

what are you talking about



You talked about eating underwear out of nowhere, I found that totally odd.

chill down if you don't know what i'm talking about


I know what exactly what your talking about, but it still sounds disgusting.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
December 29 2009 09:57 GMT
#170
On December 29 2009 18:56 InDaHouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 18:52 writer22816 wrote:
Stork could really use Bisu's probe micro lol

No Bisu likes to hold position goons in front of tanks


And yet he is 2-6 against Flash in this year.
Revolutionist fan
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
December 29 2009 09:58 GMT
#171
On December 29 2009 18:57 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 18:52 konadora wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:49 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:48 konadora wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:38 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:34 konadora wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:32 GTR wrote:
i will do something for a savior vs fbh ace match

like

eating your underwear?



What the f*** are you talking about? And what the f*** are you on?

what are you talking about



You talked about eating underwear out of nowhere, I found that totally odd.

chill down if you don't know what i'm talking about


I know what exactly what your talking about, but it still sounds disgusting.

why so serious?
POGGERS
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 29 2009 09:58 GMT
#172
On December 29 2009 18:57 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 18:52 konadora wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:49 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:48 konadora wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:38 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:34 konadora wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:32 GTR wrote:
i will do something for a savior vs fbh ace match

like

eating your underwear?



What the f*** are you talking about? And what the f*** are you on?

what are you talking about



You talked about eating underwear out of nowhere, I found that totally odd.

chill down if you don't know what i'm talking about


I know what exactly what your talking about, but it still sounds disgusting.


lmao chill
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
zerotol
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium508 Posts
December 29 2009 09:58 GMT
#173
On December 29 2009 18:54 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 18:49 Balfazar wrote:
Waiting for someone to say the obvious... the game was lost as soon as those 4 lings ran by the warping cannon, skill in the matchup didn't even come into it.

yeah seriously whats with all the omg effort so good stork so bad pvz in this thread? game was over because of a huge blunder on storks part. didnt even go to mid game


Being above 60% win is considered a topplayerwinrate. Effort ZvP is 75% which only rivals JD ZvZ and Flash TvT.
Now i am become death, the destroyer of worlds
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
December 29 2009 09:59 GMT
#174
On December 29 2009 18:57 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 18:56 darktreb wrote:
Ahhh a throwback by Stork to the days when he his PvZ was legendarily BAD....

I find it funny how many people on TL nowadays don't know that Stork was once known as much for his PvZ ineptitude as his PvT/PvP prowess.


I blame Bisu's failure for that. Stork/Protoss fans are just looking for a savior.


The irony in this post blew my mind.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 29 2009 09:59 GMT
#175
On December 29 2009 18:58 zerotol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 18:54 lazz wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:49 Balfazar wrote:
Waiting for someone to say the obvious... the game was lost as soon as those 4 lings ran by the warping cannon, skill in the matchup didn't even come into it.

yeah seriously whats with all the omg effort so good stork so bad pvz in this thread? game was over because of a huge blunder on storks part. didnt even go to mid game


Being above 60% win is considered a topplayerwinrate. Effort ZvP is 75% which only rivals JD ZvZ and Flash TvT.



28-9 record.
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
December 29 2009 09:59 GMT
#176
On December 29 2009 18:56 darktreb wrote:
Ahhh a throwback by Stork to the days when he his PvZ was legendarily BAD....

I find it funny how many people on TL nowadays don't know that Stork was once known as much for his PvZ ineptitude as his PvT/PvP prowess.

Was it worse than Jangbi's and Best's? i mean 4th among Dragons isnt that bad...
Kreedit
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden373 Posts
December 29 2009 09:59 GMT
#177
If great wins this and it goes on to ace il expect khan to send him out instead of stork to snipe effort.

Though cj might send out someone else so it will be intresting to see what happens.
InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
December 29 2009 10:00 GMT
#178
On December 29 2009 18:56 darktreb wrote:
Ahhh a throwback by Stork to the days when he his PvZ was legendarily BAD....

I find it funny how many people on TL nowadays don't know that Stork was once known as much for his PvZ ineptitude as his PvT/PvP prowess.

There are many funny things in the world, though I find it only good that the old fucking "Storks PvZ is so bad" bandwagon has ended. And people in LR has always been short on memory.
Stork protoss legend
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 29 2009 10:00 GMT
#179
On December 29 2009 13:41 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 08:15 lone_hydra wrote:
On December 29 2009 07:55 jalstar wrote:
On December 29 2009 05:10 Xxio wrote:
On December 29 2009 05:03 lone_hydra wrote:
Stork... you gonna show us your revolutionary PvZ? Or you gonna save it for the next starleague and get rolled but mass mutas again?


Protoss losing to mutas is about the worst thing that can happen imo

so boring..it's like, "gj you won without doing a single thing"


effort plays nothing like shine, he goes standard almost every game and wins with mechanics


That is why I am not a big fan of Effort. He overwhelms opponents with mechanics and wins even though he makes strategical mistakes here and there. I'd like him more if he shows out of the ordinary stuff sometimes or if his play feels more genious rather than super robot. But I guess that's what makes him such a ZvP beast.


hmm actually compared to crap zergs like yellow/luxury/shine/kwanro effort is a strategical genius.

Every single game he has a plan that goes from 4 drones to 40 and from 3 base to five and six.

He has been a front runner in developing zvp standard play over the last six months (only behind jaedong) and zvt he is the only zerg in the world right now with a consistent midgame AND lategame plan.

Anybody who wants to learn how zerg should be played needs to watch effort his understanding and lategame in both zvp and zvt are insanely deep not to mention he is a mechanical genius with 100 less apm then jaedong ..... I mean really ... how is that even possible ...


I am curious as how you think that YellOw[Arnc], Luxury(who teared like everything up round 1), Shine (who tears up everything atm), and Kwanro?
Please, if you are gonna use the "aggressive zerg noob player" against them and hate them.
One of the most beloved zergs in the world with what people has called GODLY zvp consistent throughout history, then look at Julyzerg. He is aggressive, cheesy, (and even more focused on the early game than Shine for example) and he is loved.
Explain to me, why.
In the woods, there lurks..
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
December 29 2009 10:00 GMT
#180
On December 29 2009 18:58 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 18:57 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:52 konadora wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:49 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:48 konadora wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:38 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:34 konadora wrote:
On December 29 2009 18:32 GTR wrote:
i will do something for a savior vs fbh ace match

like

eating your underwear?



What the f*** are you talking about? And what the f*** are you on?

what are you talking about



You talked about eating underwear out of nowhere, I found that totally odd.

chill down if you don't know what i'm talking about


I know what exactly what your talking about, but it still sounds disgusting.


lmao chill


I didn't know I was making a scene.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
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