• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:02
CEST 07:02
KST 14:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy8ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
Pros React To: SoulKey vs Ample ASL21 General Discussion RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group C [ASL21] Ro24 Group B [ASL21] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8872 users

[SPL] STX Soul vs SK Telecom T1 - Page 27

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 25 26 27 28 29 40 Next All
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 27 2009 05:42 GMT
#521
On December 27 2009 14:42 iamho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 14:39 cUrsOr wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:38 iamho wrote:
why does calm keep sucking against fantasy
hopefully he will not choke this hard against flash

It doesn't matter if he grows a 3rd arm against Flash....



that's a short game so i'm guessing 2 hatch muta was used?
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
December 27 2009 05:43 GMT
#522
I'll just say that was a little while ago...
Flash is on a little bit of a streak lately if you haven't heard.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 27 2009 05:44 GMT
#523
On December 27 2009 14:41 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 14:39 Chen wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:37 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:36 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:35 TheYango wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:33 FireGuyX wrote:
It's safe to say that Fantasy's TvZ has improved.

In the sense that he failed slightly less than in their games from several weeks back?



I've noticed an improvement in his M&M micro and macro, although he still doesn't have Flash's game sense when it comes to TvZ. Seriously Fantasy would be an S-Class Terran if his TvZ wasn't such a handicap for him.

And if he brought his TvP up to snuff. So really only TvT, for now.

?
i thought he was known for his TvP. hes lost a few games vs Stork and dropped a bad series vs stats but what else "isnt up to snuff?"

It's very obvious (it seriously is) that his TvP relies on a harass style which isn't working that effectively anymore. It's not bad, one of the better TvP's out there, but not near S-class

Not sure how you can say this considering Fantasy has only played 3 PvTs this season (MSL, OSL, and PL combined), and they were back in September (2-1 with wins vs free and Much). I guarantee Fantasy still has one of the game's best TvPs—we just haven't seen it in a very long time.
✌
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 05:44:50
December 27 2009 05:44 GMT
#524
On December 27 2009 14:38 Chen wrote:
Dropships are
A) the slowest of the 3 transport units(maybe they are 2nd but i dont think they are faster than overlords)
B) have the least HP of the 3.
C) are by far the most expensive
you have nothing to complain about.

Strictly speaking, they're easier to put to use than overlords, because overlords need 2 upgrades that don't otherwise help, while the dropship only requires buildings that you would get almost 100% of the time anyway.

Dropships only cost more than overlords drops after the 4th one.
Moderator
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
December 27 2009 05:45 GMT
#525
On December 27 2009 14:41 cUrsOr wrote:
BoxeR will come out for Ace you nubs.


oh man, that would make so many people happy
KTY
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51571 Posts
December 27 2009 05:45 GMT
#526
On December 27 2009 14:42 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 14:42 iamho wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:39 cUrsOr wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:38 iamho wrote:
why does calm keep sucking against fantasy
hopefully he will not choke this hard against flash

It doesn't matter if he grows a 3rd arm against Flash....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ovueWWx2eQ


that's a short game so i'm guessing 2 hatch muta was used?


2hatch lurker

as long as flash doesn't do any stupid shit and plays his standard game he easily has the semi-final 3-0
Commentator
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 27 2009 05:45 GMT
#527
On December 27 2009 14:44 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 14:41 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:39 Chen wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:37 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:36 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:35 TheYango wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:33 FireGuyX wrote:
It's safe to say that Fantasy's TvZ has improved.

In the sense that he failed slightly less than in their games from several weeks back?



I've noticed an improvement in his M&M micro and macro, although he still doesn't have Flash's game sense when it comes to TvZ. Seriously Fantasy would be an S-Class Terran if his TvZ wasn't such a handicap for him.

And if he brought his TvP up to snuff. So really only TvT, for now.

?
i thought he was known for his TvP. hes lost a few games vs Stork and dropped a bad series vs stats but what else "isnt up to snuff?"

It's very obvious (it seriously is) that his TvP relies on a harass style which isn't working that effectively anymore. It's not bad, one of the better TvP's out there, but not near S-class

Not sure how you can say this considering Fantasy has only played 3 PvTs this season (MSL, OSL, and PL combined), and they were back in September (2-1 with wins vs free and Much). I guarantee Fantasy still has one of the game's best TvPs—we just haven't seen it in a very long time.

Here's the thing about S-class. If say, Flash/Stork/Jaedong/Bisu dropped those games, people would say they were slumping. You can't just brush off these games if you want to consider Fantasy's TvP to be S-class.
Jaedong
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
December 27 2009 05:45 GMT
#528
proxy fact him, Frozean!
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
December 27 2009 05:46 GMT
#529
On December 27 2009 14:33 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 14:32 Jackal03 wrote:
what a horrible, horrible game

flash is gonna stomp clam so hard...

what is your definition of horrible? Both players played like crap, but that was a really hilarious and fun game to watch

horrible is both players playing like crap maybe?
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 27 2009 05:46 GMT
#530
On December 27 2009 14:44 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 14:41 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:39 Chen wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:37 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:36 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:35 TheYango wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:33 FireGuyX wrote:
It's safe to say that Fantasy's TvZ has improved.

In the sense that he failed slightly less than in their games from several weeks back?



I've noticed an improvement in his M&M micro and macro, although he still doesn't have Flash's game sense when it comes to TvZ. Seriously Fantasy would be an S-Class Terran if his TvZ wasn't such a handicap for him.

And if he brought his TvP up to snuff. So really only TvT, for now.

?
i thought he was known for his TvP. hes lost a few games vs Stork and dropped a bad series vs stats but what else "isnt up to snuff?"

It's very obvious (it seriously is) that his TvP relies on a harass style which isn't working that effectively anymore. It's not bad, one of the better TvP's out there, but not near S-class

Not sure how you can say this considering Fantasy has only played 3 PvTs this season (MSL, OSL, and PL combined), and they were back in September (2-1 with wins vs free and Much). I guarantee Fantasy still has one of the game's best TvPs—we just haven't seen it in a very long time.


After his hot 9-1 streak in proleague, his recent TvP's have been quite underwhelming.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 27 2009 05:46 GMT
#531
On December 27 2009 14:41 Sunny Afternoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 14:40 jalstar wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:40 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
I wan fantasy Ace match.


only if it's fantasy vs Kal, i don't want no fantasy tvz again


QFT
I'd rather watch a match that at least looks high-level.


Quit complaining, and watch Leta v. HoeJJa for perspective. That last game wasn't badly played at all, and was pretty entertaining.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 27 2009 05:47 GMT
#532
On December 27 2009 14:46 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 14:44 JWD wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:41 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:39 Chen wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:37 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:36 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:35 TheYango wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:33 FireGuyX wrote:
It's safe to say that Fantasy's TvZ has improved.

In the sense that he failed slightly less than in their games from several weeks back?



I've noticed an improvement in his M&M micro and macro, although he still doesn't have Flash's game sense when it comes to TvZ. Seriously Fantasy would be an S-Class Terran if his TvZ wasn't such a handicap for him.

And if he brought his TvP up to snuff. So really only TvT, for now.

?
i thought he was known for his TvP. hes lost a few games vs Stork and dropped a bad series vs stats but what else "isnt up to snuff?"

It's very obvious (it seriously is) that his TvP relies on a harass style which isn't working that effectively anymore. It's not bad, one of the better TvP's out there, but not near S-class

Not sure how you can say this considering Fantasy has only played 3 PvTs this season (MSL, OSL, and PL combined), and they were back in September (2-1 with wins vs free and Much). I guarantee Fantasy still has one of the game's best TvPs—we just haven't seen it in a very long time.


After his hot 9-1 streak in proleague, his recent TvP's have been quite underwhelming.

My point was: Fantasy has no recent TvPs.
✌
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
December 27 2009 05:47 GMT
#533
On December 27 2009 14:46 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 14:41 Sunny Afternoon wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:40 jalstar wrote:
On December 27 2009 14:40 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
I wan fantasy Ace match.


only if it's fantasy vs Kal, i don't want no fantasy tvz again


QFT
I'd rather watch a match that at least looks high-level.


Quit complaining, and watch Leta v. HoeJJa for perspective. That last game wasn't badly played at all, and was pretty entertaining.


+ Show Spoiler +
fairly similar actually
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
December 27 2009 05:47 GMT
#534
Camera goes to same couple..guy kisses gf..awww
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 27 2009 05:48 GMT
#535
oh shit! Frozean vs. Bisu underway!

Outsider!
✌
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
December 27 2009 05:48 GMT
#536
Aww, it's so cute when the guy kisses the girl in the crowd. She acts embarrassed but she loves it
KTY
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 05:49:58
December 27 2009 05:49 GMT
#537
2 fact for frozean

dragoon on frozean's ramp..he has nothing to attack it >.<
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
December 27 2009 05:49 GMT
#538
oh god 2-fact
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 27 2009 05:49 GMT
#539
Bisu better hope Hwasin taught Frozen how to 2 fact on this map.
Jaedong
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 27 2009 05:50 GMT
#540
2 fact vs 1 gate expand.

Alea iacta est
Prev 1 25 26 27 28 29 40 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 58m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 242
ProTech129
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 810
ggaemo 234
ToSsGirL 108
Bale 27
sSak 23
Dewaltoss 22
Icarus 13
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm217
League of Legends
JimRising 629
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0481
Mew2King51
Other Games
summit1g10948
WinterStarcraft528
crisheroes303
ArmadaUGS81
Moletrap4
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 84
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
4h 58m
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
6h 58m
BSL
13h 58m
Replay Cast
18h 58m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 4h
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
1d 5h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 10h
OSC
1d 18h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-27
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.