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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 26 2009 11:33 GMT
#1621
On December 26 2009 20:33 FireGuyX wrote:
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On December 26 2009 20:27 Vasoline73 wrote:
Honestly Zero probably thought he couldn't win a straight up management game on either of the maps played today and prepared hyper aggressive mutas. In my mind there's no real explanation other than that. Not saying Zero couldn't win a management game on OTHER maps.. but on these MSL ones probably not.

Anyways I'm hyped for Flash v Best even though I guess there's a pretty large chance Flash will drop the ball.



Flash's TvP is better than Canata's, and Canata almost beat BeST twice.


never ever count intra team matches as part of statistics
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
December 26 2009 11:33 GMT
#1622
On December 26 2009 20:21 Lebesgue wrote:
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On December 26 2009 20:20 Hinanawi wrote:
I am unbelievably psyched for Flash vs BeSt Bo5.

The smart money's on BeSt I think, but this will be huge, the first 'best of' series of Flash vs Protoss this season, and it's a Bo5...he's going to be working Violet and Stats to the bone practicing.


Thank god both Violet and Stats have damn good PvT. Hopefully they will manage to "fix" Flash TvP before facing Best.

But man, that will be an awesome series.


FlaSh always working hard and I don't doubt it
Power is your Intelligence
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
December 26 2009 11:34 GMT
#1623
On December 26 2009 20:33 FireGuyX wrote:
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On December 26 2009 20:27 Vasoline73 wrote:
Honestly Zero probably thought he couldn't win a straight up management game on either of the maps played today and prepared hyper aggressive mutas. In my mind there's no real explanation other than that. Not saying Zero couldn't win a management game on OTHER maps.. but on these MSL ones probably not.

Anyways I'm hyped for Flash v Best even though I guess there's a pretty large chance Flash will drop the ball.



Flash's TvP is better than Canata's, and Canata almost beat BeST twice.

Because Canata knows BeSt very well and it was hard for BeSt to practice against his own teammate?
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
December 26 2009 11:34 GMT
#1624
Don't read too much into this Flash hate. There has been an enormous FLASH BEST PLAYER EVAAAR bandwagon forming in the last months, it's only normal that some people start rooting against him by reaction, especially when he's facing Zero who is quite a likable player. Ofc calling him a faggot is downright stupid but well.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
December 26 2009 11:34 GMT
#1625
On December 26 2009 20:30 Crunchums wrote:
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On December 26 2009 20:28 darktreb wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:27 Crunchums wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:26 Mooncat wrote:
Can't believe how many anti-fans Flash has all of a sudden. Wtf? He's playing straight up, he's dominating and he's modest and likeable in his interviews. What's your fucking problem?

uhhhhhhhhhhhh


Oops sorry he didn't play straight up once while going 40-2 in TvT and TvZ. Gee sorry about that.

what has happened in the past doesn't account for what's happening "all of a sudden"
also I do not hate flash and was fine with him cheesing jaedong
just poking holes in arguments


It's a pretty dumb hole to poke. How many players don't cheese for like 30 straight games? Flash is literally like the most straight up player in all of SC right now. To get on his case for a cheese is truly ridiculous and I can't believe how many people on TL are harping over it. It's pretty much the dumbest thing people have complained about in recent memory.

Flash cheesed Bisu out of OSL in 2007! Flash cheesed JD once in OSL in December 2009! Flash is a cheeser who doesn't care about fans!

Just retarded.
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
December 26 2009 11:34 GMT
#1626
Best already working on a new cutting edge 1-base arbs build for the Ro8.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 26 2009 11:34 GMT
#1627
On December 26 2009 20:33 FireGuyX wrote:
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On December 26 2009 20:27 Vasoline73 wrote:
Honestly Zero probably thought he couldn't win a straight up management game on either of the maps played today and prepared hyper aggressive mutas. In my mind there's no real explanation other than that. Not saying Zero couldn't win a management game on OTHER maps.. but on these MSL ones probably not.

Anyways I'm hyped for Flash v Best even though I guess there's a pretty large chance Flash will drop the ball.



Flash's TvP is better than Canata's, and Canata almost beat BeST twice.

Teamkill situations are rarely a good display of a player's full potential
brood war for life, brood war forever
VabuDeltaKaiser
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany1107 Posts
December 26 2009 11:34 GMT
#1628
On December 26 2009 20:31 roMAD wrote:
I guess there are two explanations of the appearance of FlaSh haters:

1. He beats their favourite player convincingly.
2. He 'robbed' us what should have been an epic game vs JD yesterday.

-> 2. you have to be a blind flashfan if you ignore this


"omg why all hate flash so much lately, like.. out of nothing, there is no reason - omg?"
my smiley drinks green tea. works. just, the commercial investments are lower.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7842 Posts
December 26 2009 11:34 GMT
#1629
On December 26 2009 20:26 Crunchums wrote:
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On December 26 2009 20:25 Lebesgue wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:23 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:20 Crunchums wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:18 XiaoLongNuSucks wrote:
had zero not gone guardian the outcome may've been different. what a crappy day, the 2nd highest seeded zerg lost T.T. now there are only Best and Jaedong left to stop that faggot Flash.

<--- I think this emote sucks, but seriously

Yeah seriously people need to start following the rules


The amount of retards the last two days attracted to TL is just astonishing. People throwing insults left and righ, shit talking, trolling. It becomes just unbearable.

In fairness: Shine

Zero's play against Flash today isn't much different than what I would imagine Shine trying to do vs Flash.. just relying on mutalisk control to win the game pretty much. Granted Zero did it a bit better than I think Shine would, but no doubt if Shine and Flash met in OSL and Shine did builds like this (which he would) people would just be bitching about that too...
Pokeball
Profile Joined December 2009
94 Posts
December 26 2009 11:34 GMT
#1630
On December 26 2009 20:33 Crunchums wrote:
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On December 26 2009 20:32 SilverskY wrote:
I'm actually very impressed by Stats this MSL. What a dark horse.

too bad he has to play jaedong, lol


Hey at least the kid gets seeded in the next MSL.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 11:35:13
December 26 2009 11:34 GMT
#1631
On December 26 2009 20:32 Crunchums wrote:
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On December 26 2009 20:30 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:28 Crunchums wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:27 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:26 Crunchums wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:25 Lebesgue wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:23 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:20 Crunchums wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:18 XiaoLongNuSucks wrote:
had zero not gone guardian the outcome may've been different. what a crappy day, the 2nd highest seeded zerg lost T.T. now there are only Best and Jaedong left to stop that faggot Flash.

<--- I think this emote sucks, but seriously

Yeah seriously people need to start following the rules


The amount of retards the last two days attracted to TL is just astonishing. People throwing insults left and righ, shit talking, trolling. It becomes just unbearable.

In fairness: Shine

Not funny.

Neither is the idea of a Flash vs Shine OSL final

I think you mean Calm vs Movie final. Oh yes. It shall come to pass. Maybe. I don't know. Anyway. Shine deserves respect.

[Shine deserves respect and I freely admit that his play has been impressive but dude we could have had Flash vs Stork and instead we're going to have Flash vs someone who doesn't stand a chance against him.

Calm is one of my favorite players but you've got to start thinking realistically to ease the inevitable pain. The only question in my mind is whether it will be 3-1 Flash or 3-0 Flash.


Imagine Flash vs Movie.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 11:36:16
December 26 2009 11:35 GMT
#1632
On December 26 2009 20:32 Lebesgue wrote:
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On December 26 2009 20:31 Orbifold wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:28 Lebesgue wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:24 MrHoon wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:23 nozaro33 wrote:
Wow, Flash is sure getting a lot of hate for winning


You guys have it easy

You know how hard it was when I was the only KT fan and that whole Bisu/14cc charade happened?

I was so lonely

And Last Romantic never posted enough


For 2 years I have been a die-hard Flash fan You were never alone but we were simply outnumbered by haters.

I still remember that people were making retarded comments regarding Flash even after some nice interviews with him, He used to get so much hate is was unbelievable. It is good to see that his fanbase expanded lately...


I also want to get in on this "I love flash before it was cool" circle jerk too! Like 80% of my post history is defending Flash or talking about how great he is. WOOOOOOO


Welcome in the circle
same as me! when reach said that flash was the next best i became a flash fan, even when he kept failing i kept rooting for him, because i believed in him and in reach

boxer said the same thing about stork, but i never really liked boxer (i respect him but im not a fan of him) for some odd reason so i never really became a fan of stork :o
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 26 2009 11:35 GMT
#1633
On December 26 2009 20:33 ejac wrote:
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On December 26 2009 20:32 VioleTAK wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:29 Orbifold wrote:
Flash has not looked good at TvP lately but remember two things:

1: He has not been playing many TvPs, so he has not been spending much time preparing.

2: He has said many times that he is working on a new play style in the mu that is almost ready.

Between now and the Bo5 w/ Best he is going to be working hard on his TvP, and I think it's going to be awesome.

3. BeSt has more than enough Terran help on his team, he can be truly ready with some nasty builds.

I'll assure you atleast one of the builds is going to be dt drop into 2base arbs.

no way man thats too unorthodox
dats racist
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10345 Posts
December 26 2009 11:35 GMT
#1634
On December 26 2009 20:32 Crunchums wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2009 20:30 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:28 Crunchums wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:27 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:26 Crunchums wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:25 Lebesgue wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:23 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:20 Crunchums wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:18 XiaoLongNuSucks wrote:
had zero not gone guardian the outcome may've been different. what a crappy day, the 2nd highest seeded zerg lost T.T. now there are only Best and Jaedong left to stop that faggot Flash.

<--- I think this emote sucks, but seriously

Yeah seriously people need to start following the rules


The amount of retards the last two days attracted to TL is just astonishing. People throwing insults left and righ, shit talking, trolling. It becomes just unbearable.

In fairness: Shine

Not funny.

Neither is the idea of a Flash vs Shine OSL final

I think you mean Calm vs Movie final. Oh yes. It shall come to pass. Maybe. I don't know. Anyway. Shine deserves respect.

Shine deserves respect and I freely admit that his play has been impressive but dude we could have had Flash vs Stork and instead we're going to have Flash vs someone who doesn't stand a chance against him.

Calm is one of my favorite players but you've got to start thinking realistically to ease the inevitable pain. The only question in my mind is whether it will be 3-1 Flash or 3-0 Flash.


Let us immediately agree to disagree.
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Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
December 26 2009 11:35 GMT
#1635
The new coaching staff is going to roll out a powerful new mind-game strat for Flash to utilize against Best:

+ Show Spoiler +
Julyzerg Mask
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
December 26 2009 11:37 GMT
#1636
Kwanro vs Bogus... what a lukewarm tasteless soup. Kwanro, don't even think about worming your way up to another sad finals, fans will stop showing up to live matches all together.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 11:37:33
December 26 2009 11:37 GMT
#1637
I suddenly got the premonition that Flash's going to bio rush Best in at least 1 of the games. :|
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
December 26 2009 11:37 GMT
#1638
First game against Best, Flash will off-race as Zerg and drone drill him.
Graphics
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
December 26 2009 11:37 GMT
#1639
Just like someone mentioned previous pages ago, this is JD's MSL. JD will take care of stats and the winner of Kal/Hwasin. I'm sorry to Flash fans but I don't see him passing Best (who knows though). Besides, I remember JD mentioned in his interviews that he wants to win the MSL more than the OSL this season. The guy is going to be practicing like hell for this since he's only got 1 league to focus now anyways.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
December 26 2009 11:37 GMT
#1640
On December 26 2009 20:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2009 20:32 Crunchums wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:30 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:28 Crunchums wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:27 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:26 Crunchums wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:25 Lebesgue wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:23 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:20 Crunchums wrote:
On December 26 2009 20:18 XiaoLongNuSucks wrote:
had zero not gone guardian the outcome may've been different. what a crappy day, the 2nd highest seeded zerg lost T.T. now there are only Best and Jaedong left to stop that faggot Flash.

<--- I think this emote sucks, but seriously

Yeah seriously people need to start following the rules


The amount of retards the last two days attracted to TL is just astonishing. People throwing insults left and righ, shit talking, trolling. It becomes just unbearable.

In fairness: Shine

Not funny.

Neither is the idea of a Flash vs Shine OSL final

I think you mean Calm vs Movie final. Oh yes. It shall come to pass. Maybe. I don't know. Anyway. Shine deserves respect.

Shine deserves respect and I freely admit that his play has been impressive but dude we could have had Flash vs Stork and instead we're going to have Flash vs someone who doesn't stand a chance against him.

Calm is one of my favorite players but you've got to start thinking realistically to ease the inevitable pain. The only question in my mind is whether it will be 3-1 Flash or 3-0 Flash.


Let us immediately agree to disagree.

I won't agree to disagree. I don't see calm taking more than a game from flash.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
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