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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 25 2009 14:16 GMT
#2601
On December 25 2009 22:50 okum wrote:
I find it hilarious how many JD fangirls there are on TL that won't swallow cheese without some whine to flush it down.

Flash prepared a brilliant strategy and executed it perfectly. It wasn't TvZ imba, and it wasn't Flash stealing Christmas; the preparation alone was Starcraft at the highest level. And contrary to the myth, Jaedong doesn't automatically win BO3s or BO5s against the odds by magically activating death stare mode. If he wins, he does it because he's the better player, or better prepared than his opponent. Flash is playing much better than Jaedong right now and would've been the favorite to win both a lategame in game 2 and an eventual game 3.

Also, Shine deserves some love. Maybe he "can't win from a disadvantage", but if that's so, then given his recent record, he's certainly good at putting himself in advantageous positions. And that's certainly a very useful talent toi have. His games have been very entertaining. Movie vs Shine should be a great matchup.

Yeah it was a great build by Flash where he builds a barracks at 8 and is perfectly safe against anything but a 4pool but wins against 12-hatch outright with no risk against 9pool or anything of the sort. How did he come up with such a creative and amazing build? Not to mention the fact that he's going to always get a free overlord as long as the Zerg isn't going for anything faster than a 9pool.

About Shine, yeah man he got this OSL no prob.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
khersai
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland366 Posts
December 25 2009 14:20 GMT
#2602
calm vs shine finals gogogo
will the Legendary Protoss please stand up, please stand up
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
December 25 2009 14:21 GMT
#2603
On December 25 2009 23:20 khersai wrote:
calm vs shine finals gogogo


ew no
and well dont Flash. perfect execution.
im disappointed that Stork didnt make it. i just dont like shine in general.
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
timmeh
Profile Joined September 2009
Austria177 Posts
December 25 2009 14:22 GMT
#2604
Loving all the Shine hate.

Apparently he sucks so much, yet he beat the supposed much better player that is Stork. I wonder who played the better game? Why would Shine play strategies he is not very good at? It would be stupid. He is clever enough to make use of his strengths. Stork was weak enough not to beat him.

And he certainly doesn't suck because he doesn't show new builds. By that standard, pretty much everyone nowadays would "not be a good player". This is the way SC is being played now.

So go grouphug you stork fanbois
;o
mmgoose
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
769 Posts
December 25 2009 14:26 GMT
#2605
On December 25 2009 23:15 Zozma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 23:09 mmgoose wrote:
On December 25 2009 23:00 Chill wrote:
On December 25 2009 22:39 mmgoose wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:09 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:07 Fontong wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:04 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:03 mmgoose wrote:
no such thing as "cheese" it's just a risky early aggression that punishes those who should've known better.

I'm almost tempted to believe you are serious.

Wow I never knew you were such a fanboy

Are you reading the ludicrousness of that post? Even chill says it's cheese.


well if chill says so then it must be true then. after all he is the tl strategy section mod and knows the intricacies of neo hbr, the tendencies of jaedong, and precise and ultimately flawless execution of flash's "cheese".

if flash can do it, why can't chill?

I don't understand this post, specifically the final line.


i'm simply trying to make a point that calling what flash did as "cheese" is an attempt at downplaying the difficulty of coming up with a tactic that would work on a new map and against jaedong himself.
Any cheese is difficult at the pro level, but it's still cheese. I don't understand what you're trying to say.


when people refer to something as "cheese" they always have this bitterness oozing out of every comment as if had any other person was given the task of "cheesing" jaedong at this level of competition they would've been as successful at its execution as flash had just now.
And you know if a grandmother had a penis she would be a grandfather.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 25 2009 14:31 GMT
#2606
omg was hoping for epic but flash just did that crazy rush thing well..he better win this osl! who is he facing next round? shine? HE BETTER PWN THAT GUY HARD
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Kleander
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States334 Posts
December 25 2009 14:37 GMT
#2607
MY CHRISTMAS IS RUINED, FUCK YOU JAEDONG!
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy. 지지 Guess who's learning Korean
ZooG
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden618 Posts
December 25 2009 14:40 GMT
#2608
Shine took out Stork.. and Bisu no wonder hes hated...
and now hes up against Movie? The Protoss "new" hope fighting~
"Rain, also a name for a meteorological condition" -Artosis
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
December 25 2009 14:43 GMT
#2609
On December 25 2009 21:22 unSpeake wrote:
What a bunch of idiots in this thread, shine scouted the early +1 8 speed zeal push ( i believe that was storks push) and knew that if he got an early second gas his mutas would be incredibly strong. you all are just super dense and think WAH ALL HE DO A-MOVE WAAAH MAP IMBA MU IMBA WAAAH

rigth
Power is your Intelligence
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
December 25 2009 14:43 GMT
#2610
Damn it Zero...this was a great chance for you and you blew it.
Zero fighting.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
December 25 2009 14:50 GMT
#2611
I've decided that I will be cheering for Flash the rest of this OSL.

It would give me fierce delight to see Flash wipe the FUCKING FLOOR with Shine's ugly face. Then people can talk all they want about the intelligent, clever, aggressive, stylish, play that Shine has, since Shine is apparently this master strategist who just outplays Stork and knows the perfect moves to make. I'm sure he'll show the same amazing proficiency and strategic depth in a Bo5 vs Flash.
Lurgee
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia252 Posts
December 25 2009 14:58 GMT
#2612
Dammmmn stork lost to shine
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
December 25 2009 15:08 GMT
#2613
It's amazing that Flash can come up with good strategies like killing the overlord. Jaedong should have practiced more, so he would know that he's gonna lose his scouting overlord on that map. Maybe he had bad practice partners?
hey man just curious
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
December 25 2009 15:09 GMT
#2614
On December 25 2009 21:25 cz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:23 Warrior Madness wrote:
This is the worst christmas ever. Jaedong gets assraped due to his own fault. He dropped the soap here. And then Stork gets assraped after playing an incredible game 2. I can't help but feel robbed.

One question though. Who here, if anyone at all actually has a chance of beating flash?
How is movie's PvT?


I think Movie has a vgood shot vs Flash, near 50%. Flash has shaky PvT lately and Movie has never been bad at it.


Yea
Movie has impressive PvT stats near 45%
WOW
AWESOME
Power is your Intelligence
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
December 25 2009 15:10 GMT
#2615
On December 25 2009 21:29 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:28 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:22 unSpeake wrote:
What a bunch of idiots in this thread, shine scouted the early +1 8 speed zeal push ( i believe that was storks push) and knew that if he got an early second gas his mutas would be incredibly strong. you all are just super dense and think WAH ALL HE DO A-MOVE WAAAH MAP IMBA MU IMBA WAAAH


You forget the part where Zerg can scout absolutely everything that Protoss does because they have a giant blob sitting in the main watching everything for free. And the forge has to be at the very front of the nat, so Shine literally just walks a zergling up there and sees the forge spinning.

Yeah man, Shine is SO good. Only like S-Class Bonjwa Gosu Zerg could scout a +1 zeal push on HBR.


want to cry on my shoulder?


i think definitely yes
He wants
Power is your Intelligence
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
December 25 2009 15:13 GMT
#2616
On December 25 2009 21:31 cokencheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:20 WindCalibur wrote:
Fun fact: if Jaedong was playing the last game vs Stork, people would be all over the place with "OMG JAEDONG IS TOO GOOD".

Stop hating Shine. He overcame some pretty tough opponents. Whether he did it with style or not, give him some respect.


Why the hell do people always bring Jaedong up in these arguments?


'Couse it's true
Power is your Intelligence
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
December 25 2009 15:21 GMT
#2617
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Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
December 25 2009 15:23 GMT
#2618
On December 25 2009 21:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:31 MuffinDude wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:28 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:25 Plutonium wrote:
Shine played like a fucking champ in that match on HBR

If it were Jaedong who did that to Stork, everybody would be praising his genius.

Shhhh they can't handle the truth.

We would still be, pvz imba.

Movie>Zero oh em gee Movie so baller
Shine>Stork wtf imba, imba, imba, those 6 lings that killed 1 probe were so gay imba


Yes yes yes
Everywhere I hear one and too
Power is your Intelligence
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 15:31:54
December 25 2009 15:30 GMT
#2619
Goddammit (Z)Shine.

I'm sure he outplayed (P)Stork, but that doesn't make me happy about it. (P)Movie can beat him though- should be a funny series between two surprising semi-finalists.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 25 2009 15:31 GMT
#2620
As a Stork fan I'm disappointed but I'm not going to lie like a bitch and pretend Shine doesn't deserve to win.

RIP Aaliyah
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