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Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
December 25 2009 12:30 GMT
#2461
On December 25 2009 21:25 blue_arrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:23 cz wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:22 Draffut wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:19 We Are Here wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:16 TheAntZ wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:14 Draffut wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:11 RowdierBob wrote:
People are going to hate on Shine a lot, but he's a very impressive player.

He's so aggressive, and if you make the slightest mistake he's all over you like spots on grandma.


No, no he isn't.

All he knows how to do is muta micro.

What else did he do in that match that was even remotely notable? a move hydras? exploit the map imbalance against toss?

impressive at doing gay runby tactics, amoving mutas, and amoving hydras after, sure. There was no part of that game that any B team zerg could not replicate.
then isnt that storks fault for being outplayed by a "b-class" zerg?


That's like saying it's a professional boxers fault for being shot in the face with a gun. I mean, he is a professional fighter, if he loses any confrontation it must be his own fault.


Man you are dumb. You equate Shine's play with a boxer getting shot and losing a fight? Because one of them is clearly within the rules and the other isn't.


Man you should stop calling people dumb. You think he's equating Shine with the boxer?


It's pretty obvious what he's referring to. Are you purposefully being obtuse in order to call him out on his usage of dumb? I'm sorta confused.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
December 25 2009 12:30 GMT
#2462
The wrong player advanced in every group >_>

I like Calm better than Pure but I wanted Jaedong to win and I'd rather him play PvZ than ZvZ. With Stork out the OSL seems pretty much decided already at this point too, Shine will probably win over Movie, considering that he has defeated both Bisu and Stork, and Flash will win the whole thing having defeated nothing but Zerg for the whole tournament... Boring.
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
December 25 2009 12:30 GMT
#2463
On December 25 2009 21:25 Plutonium wrote:
Shine played like a fucking champ in that match on HBR

If it were Jaedong who did that to Stork, everybody would be praising his genius.

Exacly what I said earlier. I hate when people blame Shine for winning and not Stork for losing. If Shine is that freakin bad, why didn't Stork beat him then? Don't say stuff like "because he used gay stuff" because everything Shine did was very intelligent. Snap out of your freakin rages and start looking at the match and see what Stork did wrong.
ShroomyD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia245 Posts
December 25 2009 12:30 GMT
#2464
y'all misdirectin tha hate`!~1~!!!
아나코자본주의
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
December 25 2009 12:30 GMT
#2465
On December 25 2009 21:29 Draffut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:23 cz wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:22 Draffut wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:19 We Are Here wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:16 TheAntZ wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:14 Draffut wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:11 RowdierBob wrote:
People are going to hate on Shine a lot, but he's a very impressive player.

He's so aggressive, and if you make the slightest mistake he's all over you like spots on grandma.


No, no he isn't.

All he knows how to do is muta micro.

What else did he do in that match that was even remotely notable? a move hydras? exploit the map imbalance against toss?

impressive at doing gay runby tactics, amoving mutas, and amoving hydras after, sure. There was no part of that game that any B team zerg could not replicate.
then isnt that storks fault for being outplayed by a "b-class" zerg?


That's like saying it's a professional boxers fault for being shot in the face with a gun. I mean, he is a professional fighter, if he loses any confrontation it must be his own fault.


Man you are dumb. You equate Shine's play with a boxer getting shot and losing a fight? Because one of them is clearly within the rules and the other isn't.


Of course, one has a large, clear, inherent advantage outside the realm of their own skill built into the match from the start.


you saying having to play pvz is the same thing as a boxer having to fight someone with a gun?
cokencheese
Profile Joined October 2009
Philippines748 Posts
December 25 2009 12:31 GMT
#2466
On December 25 2009 21:20 WindCalibur wrote:
Fun fact: if Jaedong was playing the last game vs Stork, people would be all over the place with "OMG JAEDONG IS TOO GOOD".

Stop hating Shine. He overcame some pretty tough opponents. Whether he did it with style or not, give him some respect.


Why the hell do people always bring Jaedong up in these arguments?
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
December 25 2009 12:31 GMT
#2467
On December 25 2009 21:28 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:25 Plutonium wrote:
Shine played like a fucking champ in that match on HBR

If it were Jaedong who did that to Stork, everybody would be praising his genius.

Shhhh they can't handle the truth.

We would still be, pvz imba.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
December 25 2009 12:31 GMT
#2468
damn the pages in this thread expand faster than i can read

hoping to see a flash vs movie finals, a good opportunity for flash to improve his tvp and become unstoppable...also i don't want shine to even get a silver title
( ・´ー・`)
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
December 25 2009 12:31 GMT
#2469
On December 25 2009 21:29 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:28 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:22 unSpeake wrote:
What a bunch of idiots in this thread, shine scouted the early +1 8 speed zeal push ( i believe that was storks push) and knew that if he got an early second gas his mutas would be incredibly strong. you all are just super dense and think WAH ALL HE DO A-MOVE WAAAH MAP IMBA MU IMBA WAAAH


You forget the part where Zerg can scout absolutely everything that Protoss does because they have a giant blob sitting in the main watching everything for free. And the forge has to be at the very front of the nat, so Shine literally just walks a zergling up there and sees the forge spinning.

Yeah man, Shine is SO good. Only like S-Class Bonjwa Gosu Zerg could scout a +1 zeal push on HBR.


want to cry on my shoulder?

aww, whats the matter, been raped one too many times by protoss and now you need to take your anger out on people who support em? There there, your ass will stop hurting...eventually.
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
December 25 2009 12:31 GMT
#2470
The better players won tonight. Plain and simple. When you get to the Ro8 its serious business. Gotta play to win. Period.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 25 2009 12:31 GMT
#2471
Stork T_T

At least there are two royal roaders in the semis.. but I fear that this OSL is gonna end up being a cakewalk for Flash in the end.

FML.
Brood War loyalist
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
December 25 2009 12:32 GMT
#2472
Shine > Bisu
Shine > Stork
What chance does Movie have

Just kidding. Maybe.

Great semifinals upcoming, guys, so suck your thumbs and have a merry christmas!
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 12:33:03
December 25 2009 12:32 GMT
#2473
On December 25 2009 21:31 meegrean wrote:
Stork T_T

At least there are two royal roaders in the semis.. but I fear that this OSL is gonna end up being a cakewalk for Flash in the end.

FML.



Yeah Flash's hardest task will be against Calm. If Flash were to advance in the finals I don't think Movie or Shine will be a problem for Flash.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
December 25 2009 12:32 GMT
#2474
On December 25 2009 21:31 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:29 JohnColtrane wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:28 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:22 unSpeake wrote:
What a bunch of idiots in this thread, shine scouted the early +1 8 speed zeal push ( i believe that was storks push) and knew that if he got an early second gas his mutas would be incredibly strong. you all are just super dense and think WAH ALL HE DO A-MOVE WAAAH MAP IMBA MU IMBA WAAAH


You forget the part where Zerg can scout absolutely everything that Protoss does because they have a giant blob sitting in the main watching everything for free. And the forge has to be at the very front of the nat, so Shine literally just walks a zergling up there and sees the forge spinning.

Yeah man, Shine is SO good. Only like S-Class Bonjwa Gosu Zerg could scout a +1 zeal push on HBR.


want to cry on my shoulder?

aww, whats the matter, been raped one too many times by protoss and now you need to take your anger out on people who support em? There there, your ass will stop hurting...eventually.


yeah thats exactly it

you read me like a book from that one post

genius
HEY MEYT
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
December 25 2009 12:32 GMT
#2475
On December 25 2009 21:30 WindCalibur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:25 Plutonium wrote:
Shine played like a fucking champ in that match on HBR

If it were Jaedong who did that to Stork, everybody would be praising his genius.

Exacly what I said earlier. I hate when people blame Shine for winning and not Stork for losing. If Shine is that freakin bad, why didn't Stork beat him then? Don't say stuff like "because he used gay stuff" because everything Shine did was very intelligent. Snap out of your freakin rages and start looking at the match and see what Stork did wrong.


of course shine isn't bad, he just isn't fun to watch (for many people, i'm sure some people like watching him a-move hydras)

stork is fun to watch

this is why people are angry
I drop suckas like Plinko
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
December 25 2009 12:33 GMT
#2476
On December 25 2009 21:27 Gryffindor_us wrote:
So, I'm curious what it would take for Shine to gain at least a street urchin's respect from some of you. He didn't 4 pool Stork 3 games in a row. He was in a very difficult group and advanced. Then he beat Stork 2-1. It wasn't as if Stork utterly destroyed him in game two. He won, yeah but he wasn't steamrolled. Yeah, it sucks to have your favorite player or a potential future matchup spoiled because someone you don't necessarily like beat your player. Stork isn't going anywhere guys. And what will you say if Shine wins the OSL? Sure it could be a Sync fluke but let it play out before you judge so harshly.

Play impressively for once?
Not rely on A-moving units?
Showing off a nice new build?
Displaying good lategame management/control?
Winning a game through something other than mass muta or mass hydra?
Plus, wth are you talking about stork not going anywhere, hes basically into the finals, (Movie's PvP is average-slightly above average) and he just beat Flash convincingly rather recently.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
December 25 2009 12:33 GMT
#2477
On December 25 2009 21:30 cz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:29 Draffut wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:23 cz wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:22 Draffut wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:19 We Are Here wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:16 TheAntZ wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:14 Draffut wrote:
On December 25 2009 21:11 RowdierBob wrote:
People are going to hate on Shine a lot, but he's a very impressive player.

He's so aggressive, and if you make the slightest mistake he's all over you like spots on grandma.


No, no he isn't.

All he knows how to do is muta micro.

What else did he do in that match that was even remotely notable? a move hydras? exploit the map imbalance against toss?

impressive at doing gay runby tactics, amoving mutas, and amoving hydras after, sure. There was no part of that game that any B team zerg could not replicate.
then isnt that storks fault for being outplayed by a "b-class" zerg?


That's like saying it's a professional boxers fault for being shot in the face with a gun. I mean, he is a professional fighter, if he loses any confrontation it must be his own fault.


Man you are dumb. You equate Shine's play with a boxer getting shot and losing a fight? Because one of them is clearly within the rules and the other isn't.


Of course, one has a large, clear, inherent advantage outside the realm of their own skill built into the match from the start.


you saying having to play pvz is the same thing as a boxer having to fight someone with a gun?


yup, ZvP imba
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Anduril
Profile Joined May 2009
United States248 Posts
December 25 2009 12:33 GMT
#2478
On December 25 2009 21:31 meegrean wrote:
Stork T_T

At least there are two royal roaders in the semis.. but I fear that this OSL is gonna end up being a cakewalk for Flash in the end.

FML.

I thought there are three royal roaders. Shine has been in the osl before?
lFrost
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States295 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 12:34:09
December 25 2009 12:33 GMT
#2479
because almost everyone respects jaedong as the #1 zerg, and no one would call him out or flame him for doing anything ingame that seems remotely "gay"
On December 25 2009 21:31 cokencheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:20 WindCalibur wrote:
Fun fact: if Jaedong was playing the last game vs Stork, people would be all over the place with "OMG JAEDONG IS TOO GOOD".

Stop hating Shine. He overcame some pretty tough opponents. Whether he did it with style or not, give him some respect.


Why the hell do people always bring Jaedong up in these arguments?

MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 12:34:11
December 25 2009 12:33 GMT
#2480
On December 25 2009 21:32 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Shine > Bisu
Shine > Stork
What chance does Movie have

Just kidding. Maybe.

Great semifinals upcoming, guys, so suck your thumbs and have a merry christmas!

Yea and have fun watching flash own everyone.
On December 25 2009 21:33 gemini24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:31 meegrean wrote:
Stork T_T

At least there are two royal roaders in the semis.. but I fear that this OSL is gonna end up being a cakewalk for Flash in the end.

FML.

I thought there are three royal roaders. Shine has been in the osl before?

Qualifying out of osl offline is counted as getting into the osl.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
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