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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 05:36:34
December 20 2009 05:36 GMT
#141
On December 20 2009 14:35 konadora wrote:
firebat with 2 scv kills lol


(T)Sea punishes (T)MVP for neglecting to kill the barracks he landed right behind his refinery. MVP is so bad.

Sea once more with the high ground, and nursing a two base advantage.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
December 20 2009 05:37 GMT
#142
Sea is slowly coming back into this game, especially if he can keep his fourth undetected.

OMG SEA LETS A MINE HIT HIS TANKS!!!

VULTURES INTO SEA'S THIRD!!

VULTURES KILLING SCVS!! At least 5 are killed!
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 20 2009 05:38 GMT
#143
sea has been ahead for a very long time
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
December 20 2009 05:39 GMT
#144
Wow, MVP knows how to break contains real good.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
years
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Costa Rica216 Posts
December 20 2009 05:40 GMT
#145
GG soon
"Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!" Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
December 20 2009 05:40 GMT
#146
Wow, didn't even see those dropships. Curse you, mighty Sea!
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
December 20 2009 05:40 GMT
#147
MVP PUSHING INTO SEA'S POSITION!!! IT FALLS!!!

OMG MINE TAKES OUT A TANK AND 3 SCVS!!

Drop in MVP's main!

MVP bringin in SCVs... Sea ferrying in more troops!

All of those SCVs dead! Sea DESTROYING MVP'S BASE!

sO GOOD!
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
December 20 2009 05:41 GMT
#148
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
December 20 2009 05:41 GMT
#149
Lolol and mvp gg's.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
December 20 2009 05:41 GMT
#150
Really finally gets his act together and kills off Sea's drop, but he lost a ton of SCVs.

FINAL PUSH FROM SEA ENDS IT!

GG!!!

Sea is just THAT good.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 05:42:11
December 20 2009 05:41 GMT
#151
On December 20 2009 14:39 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Wow, (T)MVP knows how to break contains real good.


If only his base weren't being hit with three dropships of tanks and vultures at the same time, this would be a great skill toi have.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
JodoYodo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1772 Posts
December 20 2009 05:42 GMT
#152
On December 20 2009 14:33 mmgoose wrote:
am i the only guy who has this impression about mvp that he's the kind of kid nobody wants to sit close to because of the faint smell of crusted urine?

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Dance dance dance 'till we run this town!
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 05:59:28
December 20 2009 05:42 GMT
#153
On December 20 2009 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2009 14:07 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 20 2009 13:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Movie's just gonna be another one of those "omg awesome" newcomers that just fizzle out after a season and not end up doing anything.



Movie is one of the best protoss and it will stay that way for quite a while.


That's what people said about Leta. Did he ever do anything spectacular outside of the season and a half in proleague?

That's what people said about Effort, but now, for the second season in a row, he's out of both individual leagues.

There's always going to be people who look like they're on fire, play pretty well, but never climb to the top. Not everyone can be a Jaedong or Flash or Stork or Bisu, just accept it and move on.

Yes, there's still a chance for Movie to become the next big thing, I'm just saying that I don't see it happening. He's not even the "best" Protoss right now, and there's a whole host of people ahead of him.


I hate it when people judge things PURELY by results. Do you watch the games? Can you not see how good Effort is? The leagues are very cutthroat and it only takes one or two bad days to negate three months worth of effort. Even Flash couldn't scratch a RO8 for two straight seasons, which is four leagues (by the way, Movie and Effort have each made a RO8 ... and Leta made two).

Since when did someone have to be JD/Flash/Bisu level to be "a top Protoss". Last time I checked there could be more than one.

Results in leagues matter a lot but you have to watch peoples' play as well. Effort dropped OSL and MSL last year by losing to JD/FlashBBS and Calm (the eventual champion) respectively. He dropped OSL this year by losing two ZvZs. His only really bad drop was MSL this year and even that was a tough game against mech on Odd Eye followed by a ZvZ. I would say Effort's the favorite or even against everybody except Flash and JD right now. He's probably only even against Calm, Bisu, Stork, and Zero, and personally I would bet on him against Stork or Zero for sure.

Can't believe people are still labeling Effort a bust after just two seasons. Ridiculous.
Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
December 20 2009 05:47 GMT
#154
On December 20 2009 14:42 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2009 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On December 20 2009 14:07 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 20 2009 13:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Movie's just gonna be another one of those "omg awesome" newcomers that just fizzle out after a season and not end up doing anything.



Movie is one of the best protoss and it will stay that way for quite a while.


That's what people said about Leta. Did he ever do anything spectacular outside of the season and a half in proleague?

That's what people said about Effort, but now, for the second season in a row, he's out of both individual leagues.

There's always going to be people who look like they're on fire, play pretty well, but never climb to the top. Not everyone can be a Jaedong or Flash or Stork or Bisu, just accept it and move on.

Yes, there's still a chance for Movie to become the next big thing, I'm just saying that I don't see it happening. He's not even the "best" Protoss right now, and there's a whole host of people ahead of him.


I hate it when people judge things PURELY by results. Do you watch the games? Can you not see how good Effort is? The leagues are very cutthroat and it only takes one or two bad days to negate three months worth of effort. Even Flash couldn't scratch a RO8 for two straight seasons, which is four leagues (by the way, Movie and Effort have each made a RO8 ... and Leta made two).

Since when did someone have to be JD/Flash/Bisu to be "a top Protoss". Last time I checked there could be more than one.

Results in leagues matter a lot but you have to watch peoples' play as well. Effort dropped OSL and MSL last year by losing to JD/FlashBBS and Calm (the eventual champion) respectively. He dropped OSL this year by losing two ZvZs. His only really bad drop was MSL this year and even that was a tough game against mech on Odd Eye followed by a ZvZ. I would say Effort's the favorite or even against everybody except Flash and JD right now. He's probably only even against Calm, Bisu, Stork, and Zero, and personally I would bet on him against Stork or Zero for sure.

Can't believe people are still labeling Effort a bust after just two seasons. Ridiculous.

Sea's always been a early dropout in leagues, yet hes always been a really really strong pl player. People think that if you don't have at least 3 leagues under your belt you suck.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
December 20 2009 05:58 GMT
#155
On December 20 2009 14:42 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2009 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On December 20 2009 14:07 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 20 2009 13:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Movie's just gonna be another one of those "omg awesome" newcomers that just fizzle out after a season and not end up doing anything.



Movie is one of the best protoss and it will stay that way for quite a while.


That's what people said about Leta. Did he ever do anything spectacular outside of the season and a half in proleague?

That's what people said about Effort, but now, for the second season in a row, he's out of both individual leagues.

There's always going to be people who look like they're on fire, play pretty well, but never climb to the top. Not everyone can be a Jaedong or Flash or Stork or Bisu, just accept it and move on.

Yes, there's still a chance for Movie to become the next big thing, I'm just saying that I don't see it happening. He's not even the "best" Protoss right now, and there's a whole host of people ahead of him.


I hate it when people judge things PURELY by results. Do you watch the games? Can you not see how good Effort is? The leagues are very cutthroat and it only takes one or two bad days to negate three months worth of effort. Even Flash couldn't scratch a RO8 for two straight seasons, which is four leagues (by the way, Movie and Effort have each made a RO8 ... and Leta made two).

Since when did someone have to be JD/Flash/Bisu to be "a top Protoss". Last time I checked there could be more than one.

Results in leagues matter a lot but you have to watch peoples' play as well. Effort dropped OSL and MSL last year by losing to JD/FlashBBS and Calm (the eventual champion) respectively. He dropped OSL this year by losing two ZvZs. His only really bad drop was MSL this year and even that was a tough game against mech on Odd Eye followed by a ZvZ. I would say Effort's the favorite or even against everybody except Flash and JD right now. He's probably only even against Calm, Bisu, Stork, and Zero, and personally I would bet on him against Stork or Zero for sure.

Can't believe people are still labeling Effort a bust after just two seasons. Ridiculous.
effort is a great player and i absolutely agree with all you have to say.

now fantasy on the other hand...
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
December 20 2009 05:58 GMT
#156
On December 20 2009 14:47 Pioneer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2009 14:42 darktreb wrote:
On December 20 2009 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On December 20 2009 14:07 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 20 2009 13:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Movie's just gonna be another one of those "omg awesome" newcomers that just fizzle out after a season and not end up doing anything.



Movie is one of the best protoss and it will stay that way for quite a while.


That's what people said about Leta. Did he ever do anything spectacular outside of the season and a half in proleague?

That's what people said about Effort, but now, for the second season in a row, he's out of both individual leagues.

There's always going to be people who look like they're on fire, play pretty well, but never climb to the top. Not everyone can be a Jaedong or Flash or Stork or Bisu, just accept it and move on.

Yes, there's still a chance for Movie to become the next big thing, I'm just saying that I don't see it happening. He's not even the "best" Protoss right now, and there's a whole host of people ahead of him.


I hate it when people judge things PURELY by results. Do you watch the games? Can you not see how good Effort is? The leagues are very cutthroat and it only takes one or two bad days to negate three months worth of effort. Even Flash couldn't scratch a RO8 for two straight seasons, which is four leagues (by the way, Movie and Effort have each made a RO8 ... and Leta made two).

Since when did someone have to be JD/Flash/Bisu to be "a top Protoss". Last time I checked there could be more than one.

Results in leagues matter a lot but you have to watch peoples' play as well. Effort dropped OSL and MSL last year by losing to JD/FlashBBS and Calm (the eventual champion) respectively. He dropped OSL this year by losing two ZvZs. His only really bad drop was MSL this year and even that was a tough game against mech on Odd Eye followed by a ZvZ. I would say Effort's the favorite or even against everybody except Flash and JD right now. He's probably only even against Calm, Bisu, Stork, and Zero, and personally I would bet on him against Stork or Zero for sure.

Can't believe people are still labeling Effort a bust after just two seasons. Ridiculous.

Sea's always been a early dropout in leagues, yet hes always been a really really strong pl player. People think that if you don't have at least 3 leagues under your belt you suck.


Yeah, the unfortunate thing with Sea is that he's clearly been VERY good for a VERY long time. But his inability to get into even the RO8 just ONCE is truly incomprehensible. He's one of the greatest anomalies in the history of SC. I think he has the biggest talent/skill to results disparity ever =(
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
December 20 2009 06:03 GMT
#157
Set 3: (Z)Peace vs (Z)ZerO on Outsider SE

SUCH A GOOD GAME
cw)minsean(ru
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
December 20 2009 06:18 GMT
#158
On December 20 2009 14:58 hyst.eric.al wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2009 14:42 darktreb wrote:
On December 20 2009 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On December 20 2009 14:07 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 20 2009 13:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Movie's just gonna be another one of those "omg awesome" newcomers that just fizzle out after a season and not end up doing anything.



Movie is one of the best protoss and it will stay that way for quite a while.


That's what people said about Leta. Did he ever do anything spectacular outside of the season and a half in proleague?

That's what people said about Effort, but now, for the second season in a row, he's out of both individual leagues.

There's always going to be people who look like they're on fire, play pretty well, but never climb to the top. Not everyone can be a Jaedong or Flash or Stork or Bisu, just accept it and move on.

Yes, there's still a chance for Movie to become the next big thing, I'm just saying that I don't see it happening. He's not even the "best" Protoss right now, and there's a whole host of people ahead of him.


I hate it when people judge things PURELY by results. Do you watch the games? Can you not see how good Effort is? The leagues are very cutthroat and it only takes one or two bad days to negate three months worth of effort. Even Flash couldn't scratch a RO8 for two straight seasons, which is four leagues (by the way, Movie and Effort have each made a RO8 ... and Leta made two).

Since when did someone have to be JD/Flash/Bisu to be "a top Protoss". Last time I checked there could be more than one.

Results in leagues matter a lot but you have to watch peoples' play as well. Effort dropped OSL and MSL last year by losing to JD/FlashBBS and Calm (the eventual champion) respectively. He dropped OSL this year by losing two ZvZs. His only really bad drop was MSL this year and even that was a tough game against mech on Odd Eye followed by a ZvZ. I would say Effort's the favorite or even against everybody except Flash and JD right now. He's probably only even against Calm, Bisu, Stork, and Zero, and personally I would bet on him against Stork or Zero for sure.

Can't believe people are still labeling Effort a bust after just two seasons. Ridiculous.
effort is a great player and i absolutely agree with all you have to say.

now fantasy on the other hand...

double silvers man
CLOSE loses in the OSL finals vs Stork and Jaedong

i find that VERY difficult to fault
his play may be faulty from time to time but then again WHO'S ISNT

we all know that when fantasy is in his A game he's untouchable

now effort on the other hand
cw)minsean(ru
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 07:00:12
December 20 2009 06:36 GMT
#159
On December 20 2009 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2009 14:07 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 20 2009 13:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Movie's just gonna be another one of those "omg awesome" newcomers that just fizzle out after a season and not end up doing anything.



Movie is one of the best protoss and it will stay that way for quite a while.


That's what people said about Leta. Did he ever do anything spectacular outside of the season and a half in proleague?

That's what people said about Effort, but now, for the second season in a row, he's out of both individual leagues.

There's always going to be people who look like they're on fire, play pretty well, but never climb to the top. Not everyone can be a Jaedong or Flash or Stork or Bisu, just accept it and move on.

Yes, there's still a chance for Movie to become the next big thing, I'm just saying that I don't see it happening. He's not even the "best" Protoss right now, and there's a whole host of people ahead of him.



His PvZ is one of the best in starcraft today, even you have to admit that. He's already improving in his PvP and PvT and will become even better at it in the future. He's already eclipsed over a 50% win rate. His micro is simply amazing which he displayed against Stork (his comeback win) and outmicroing Zero to beat him (I'm pretty sure you watched that game). One of the highlights of this season was how he beat Light and By.Hero to advance to the OSL round of 16.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 06:57:59
December 20 2009 06:57 GMT
#160
On December 20 2009 15:18 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2009 14:58 hyst.eric.al wrote:
On December 20 2009 14:42 darktreb wrote:
On December 20 2009 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On December 20 2009 14:07 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 20 2009 13:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Movie's just gonna be another one of those "omg awesome" newcomers that just fizzle out after a season and not end up doing anything.



Movie is one of the best protoss and it will stay that way for quite a while.


That's what people said about Leta. Did he ever do anything spectacular outside of the season and a half in proleague?

That's what people said about Effort, but now, for the second season in a row, he's out of both individual leagues.

There's always going to be people who look like they're on fire, play pretty well, but never climb to the top. Not everyone can be a Jaedong or Flash or Stork or Bisu, just accept it and move on.

Yes, there's still a chance for Movie to become the next big thing, I'm just saying that I don't see it happening. He's not even the "best" Protoss right now, and there's a whole host of people ahead of him.


I hate it when people judge things PURELY by results. Do you watch the games? Can you not see how good Effort is? The leagues are very cutthroat and it only takes one or two bad days to negate three months worth of effort. Even Flash couldn't scratch a RO8 for two straight seasons, which is four leagues (by the way, Movie and Effort have each made a RO8 ... and Leta made two).

Since when did someone have to be JD/Flash/Bisu to be "a top Protoss". Last time I checked there could be more than one.

Results in leagues matter a lot but you have to watch peoples' play as well. Effort dropped OSL and MSL last year by losing to JD/FlashBBS and Calm (the eventual champion) respectively. He dropped OSL this year by losing two ZvZs. His only really bad drop was MSL this year and even that was a tough game against mech on Odd Eye followed by a ZvZ. I would say Effort's the favorite or even against everybody except Flash and JD right now. He's probably only even against Calm, Bisu, Stork, and Zero, and personally I would bet on him against Stork or Zero for sure.

Can't believe people are still labeling Effort a bust after just two seasons. Ridiculous.
effort is a great player and i absolutely agree with all you have to say.

now fantasy on the other hand...

double silvers man
CLOSE loses in the OSL finals vs Stork and Jaedong

i find that VERY difficult to fault
his play may be faulty from time to time but then again WHO'S ISNT

we all know that when fantasy is in his A game he's untouchable

now effort on the other hand


No when Fantasy's in his A Game he loses 3-2 in a finals. =\ Far from unstoppable.
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