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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On December 20 2009 14:35 konadora wrote: firebat with 2 scv kills lol  Sea punishes MVP for neglecting to kill the barracks he landed right behind his refinery. MVP is so bad. Sea once more with the high ground, and nursing a two base advantage. | ||
Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
OMG SEA LETS A MINE HIT HIS TANKS!!! VULTURES INTO SEA'S THIRD!! VULTURES KILLING SCVS!! At least 5 are killed! | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10348 Posts
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years
Costa Rica216 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10348 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
OMG MINE TAKES OUT A TANK AND 3 SCVS!! Drop in MVP's main! MVP bringin in SCVs... Sea ferrying in more troops! All of those SCVs dead! Sea DESTROYING MVP'S BASE! sO GOOD! | ||
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Pioneer
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saikeraku
Canada2933 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
FINAL PUSH FROM SEA ENDS IT! GG!!! Sea is just THAT good. | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
If only his base weren't being hit with three dropships of tanks and vultures at the same time, this would be a great skill toi have. | ||
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JodoYodo
Canada1772 Posts
On December 20 2009 14:33 mmgoose wrote: am i the only guy who has this impression about mvp that he's the kind of kid nobody wants to sit close to because of the faint smell of crusted urine? loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool | ||
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
On December 20 2009 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: That's what people said about Leta. Did he ever do anything spectacular outside of the season and a half in proleague? That's what people said about Effort, but now, for the second season in a row, he's out of both individual leagues. There's always going to be people who look like they're on fire, play pretty well, but never climb to the top. Not everyone can be a Jaedong or Flash or Stork or Bisu, just accept it and move on. Yes, there's still a chance for Movie to become the next big thing, I'm just saying that I don't see it happening. He's not even the "best" Protoss right now, and there's a whole host of people ahead of him. I hate it when people judge things PURELY by results. Do you watch the games? Can you not see how good Effort is? The leagues are very cutthroat and it only takes one or two bad days to negate three months worth of effort. Even Flash couldn't scratch a RO8 for two straight seasons, which is four leagues (by the way, Movie and Effort have each made a RO8 ... and Leta made two). Since when did someone have to be JD/Flash/Bisu level to be "a top Protoss". Last time I checked there could be more than one. Results in leagues matter a lot but you have to watch peoples' play as well. Effort dropped OSL and MSL last year by losing to JD/FlashBBS and Calm (the eventual champion) respectively. He dropped OSL this year by losing two ZvZs. His only really bad drop was MSL this year and even that was a tough game against mech on Odd Eye followed by a ZvZ. I would say Effort's the favorite or even against everybody except Flash and JD right now. He's probably only even against Calm, Bisu, Stork, and Zero, and personally I would bet on him against Stork or Zero for sure. Can't believe people are still labeling Effort a bust after just two seasons. Ridiculous. | ||
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Pioneer
994 Posts
On December 20 2009 14:42 darktreb wrote: I hate it when people judge things PURELY by results. Do you watch the games? Can you not see how good Effort is? The leagues are very cutthroat and it only takes one or two bad days to negate three months worth of effort. Even Flash couldn't scratch a RO8 for two straight seasons, which is four leagues (by the way, Movie and Effort have each made a RO8 ... and Leta made two). Since when did someone have to be JD/Flash/Bisu to be "a top Protoss". Last time I checked there could be more than one. Results in leagues matter a lot but you have to watch peoples' play as well. Effort dropped OSL and MSL last year by losing to JD/FlashBBS and Calm (the eventual champion) respectively. He dropped OSL this year by losing two ZvZs. His only really bad drop was MSL this year and even that was a tough game against mech on Odd Eye followed by a ZvZ. I would say Effort's the favorite or even against everybody except Flash and JD right now. He's probably only even against Calm, Bisu, Stork, and Zero, and personally I would bet on him against Stork or Zero for sure. Can't believe people are still labeling Effort a bust after just two seasons. Ridiculous. Sea's always been a early dropout in leagues, yet hes always been a really really strong pl player. People think that if you don't have at least 3 leagues under your belt you suck. | ||
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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
On December 20 2009 14:42 darktreb wrote: effort is a great player and i absolutely agree with all you have to say.I hate it when people judge things PURELY by results. Do you watch the games? Can you not see how good Effort is? The leagues are very cutthroat and it only takes one or two bad days to negate three months worth of effort. Even Flash couldn't scratch a RO8 for two straight seasons, which is four leagues (by the way, Movie and Effort have each made a RO8 ... and Leta made two). Since when did someone have to be JD/Flash/Bisu to be "a top Protoss". Last time I checked there could be more than one. Results in leagues matter a lot but you have to watch peoples' play as well. Effort dropped OSL and MSL last year by losing to JD/FlashBBS and Calm (the eventual champion) respectively. He dropped OSL this year by losing two ZvZs. His only really bad drop was MSL this year and even that was a tough game against mech on Odd Eye followed by a ZvZ. I would say Effort's the favorite or even against everybody except Flash and JD right now. He's probably only even against Calm, Bisu, Stork, and Zero, and personally I would bet on him against Stork or Zero for sure. Can't believe people are still labeling Effort a bust after just two seasons. Ridiculous. now fantasy on the other hand... | ||
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
On December 20 2009 14:47 Pioneer wrote: Sea's always been a early dropout in leagues, yet hes always been a really really strong pl player. People think that if you don't have at least 3 leagues under your belt you suck. Yeah, the unfortunate thing with Sea is that he's clearly been VERY good for a VERY long time. But his inability to get into even the RO8 just ONCE is truly incomprehensible. He's one of the greatest anomalies in the history of SC. I think he has the biggest talent/skill to results disparity ever =( | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
SUCH A GOOD GAME | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
On December 20 2009 14:58 hyst.eric.al wrote: effort is a great player and i absolutely agree with all you have to say. now fantasy on the other hand... double silvers man CLOSE loses in the OSL finals vs Stork and Jaedong i find that VERY difficult to fault his play may be faulty from time to time but then again WHO'S ISNT we all know that when fantasy is in his A game he's untouchable now effort on the other hand | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On December 20 2009 14:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: That's what people said about Leta. Did he ever do anything spectacular outside of the season and a half in proleague? That's what people said about Effort, but now, for the second season in a row, he's out of both individual leagues. There's always going to be people who look like they're on fire, play pretty well, but never climb to the top. Not everyone can be a Jaedong or Flash or Stork or Bisu, just accept it and move on. Yes, there's still a chance for Movie to become the next big thing, I'm just saying that I don't see it happening. He's not even the "best" Protoss right now, and there's a whole host of people ahead of him. His PvZ is one of the best in starcraft today, even you have to admit that. He's already improving in his PvP and PvT and will become even better at it in the future. He's already eclipsed over a 50% win rate. His micro is simply amazing which he displayed against Stork (his comeback win) and outmicroing Zero to beat him (I'm pretty sure you watched that game). One of the highlights of this season was how he beat Light and By.Hero to advance to the OSL round of 16. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On December 20 2009 15:18 DreaM)XeRO wrote: double silvers man CLOSE loses in the OSL finals vs Stork and Jaedong i find that VERY difficult to fault his play may be faulty from time to time but then again WHO'S ISNT we all know that when fantasy is in his A game he's untouchable now effort on the other hand No when Fantasy's in his A Game he loses 3-2 in a finals. =\ Far from unstoppable. | ||
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