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johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2241 Posts
December 19 2009 09:02 GMT
#41
On December 19 2009 18:01 Mystlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 18:00 Hinanawi wrote:
Blizzard needs to release a patch to make Zerg stronger by removing the Greater Spire from the game.

Intended?

when was the last time zerg went guards and won?
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 19 2009 09:02 GMT
#42
On December 19 2009 18:01 Mystlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 18:00 Hinanawi wrote:
Blizzard needs to release a patch to make Zerg stronger by removing the Greater Spire from the game.

Intended?

it was a joke and you did not get it
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
December 19 2009 09:02 GMT
#43
On December 19 2009 18:01 Mystlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 18:00 Hinanawi wrote:
Blizzard needs to release a patch to make Zerg stronger by removing the Greater Spire from the game.

Intended?

It's like the temptation to have a temporary advantage and lose then. Like Jaedong always loses with Greater Spire.
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thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
December 19 2009 09:03 GMT
#44
On December 19 2009 18:00 d_so wrote:
very similar to kwanro vs bogus, except irradiate beat the gaurds/mutas instead of wraiths. early on, lots of muta harass, got light to lift his natural's command for a good 5 minutes, transitioned to gaurdians on three gas... ran out of resources (no drones, just mutas), light started irradiating everything, terran wins.


Thanks a lot for the summary. I was excited for that game and bummed I missed it.

On December 19 2009 18:00 Hinanawi wrote:
Blizzard needs to release a patch to make Zerg stronger by removing the Greater Spire from the game.


Lol.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
December 19 2009 09:03 GMT
#45
Just change the name to Lesser Spire and they'll understand.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 19 2009 09:04 GMT
#46
When I logged on Bogus just finished his starports and, wow...his marine micro seemed quite bad, so many losses to almost nothing. Thought it was over then I saw Kwanro hadn't nothing to transition with. Still, with so much marines wasted, perhaps going mutaling could have broken the nat and sealed that game in Kwanro's favor ?
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 19 2009 09:04 GMT
#47
On December 19 2009 18:02 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 18:01 Mystlord wrote:
On December 19 2009 18:00 Hinanawi wrote:
Blizzard needs to release a patch to make Zerg stronger by removing the Greater Spire from the game.

Intended?

when was the last time zerg went guards and won?


It happened a couple of times in PL
TypeB vs Fantasy
Hero vs Ruby
Shine vs Really I think?

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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
December 19 2009 09:04 GMT
#48
I think the better question would be: When was the last time a Zerg player went ALL IN with guardians and won? Guardians as transitionary units are extremely versatile and safe.
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 19 2009 09:05 GMT
#49
Replay shows Bogus distracted a bunch of mutas by pushing with some mnm, thus allowing his wraiths to snipe guardians while taking less fire.
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HiHiByeBye
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada365 Posts
December 19 2009 09:05 GMT
#50
On December 19 2009 18:02 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 18:01 Mystlord wrote:
On December 19 2009 18:00 Hinanawi wrote:
Blizzard needs to release a patch to make Zerg stronger by removing the Greater Spire from the game.

Intended?

when was the last time zerg went guards and won?


I remember flash vs Luxury on Troy in the OSL where July won (i think)

Luxury went 3 gas guardians and transitioned well (he used guardians to slow flash's mid game push and then took a 4th and transitioned into ling/defilers)
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
December 19 2009 09:05 GMT
#51
both these zergs need to watch ret and learn how2doinothing. if they had just contained and expanded they would have won ez
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 19 2009 09:05 GMT
#52
If you guys are looking for games where guardians win games just go look at ZvT's on Outsider
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thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
December 19 2009 09:06 GMT
#53
Yeah HiHi, that was vs Flash wasn't it?

I loved that Hero vs Ruby game. It was an ace match I believe and it was off the chain.
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2241 Posts
December 19 2009 09:07 GMT
#54
On December 19 2009 18:05 HiHiByeBye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 18:02 johanes wrote:
On December 19 2009 18:01 Mystlord wrote:
On December 19 2009 18:00 Hinanawi wrote:
Blizzard needs to release a patch to make Zerg stronger by removing the Greater Spire from the game.

Intended?

when was the last time zerg went guards and won?


I remember flash vs Luxury on Troy in the OSL where July won (i think)

Luxury went 3 gas guardians and transitioned well (he used guardians to slow flash's mid game push and then took a 4th and transitioned into ling/defilers)

ah was that the series when he made 54643613135 sunks and went quick ultras too? this series made KT buy luxury
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
December 19 2009 09:07 GMT
#55
On December 19 2009 18:02 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 18:01 Mystlord wrote:
On December 19 2009 18:00 Hinanawi wrote:
Blizzard needs to release a patch to make Zerg stronger by removing the Greater Spire from the game.

Intended?

when was the last time zerg went guards and won?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/30654_hero_vs_RuBy

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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 19 2009 09:07 GMT
#56
On December 19 2009 18:05 Crunchums wrote:
If you guys are looking for games where guardians win games just go look at ZvT's on Outsider


But those games on outsider were usually defensive gaurds to transition to stall for ultra/filer/ling

The build they are talking about here is the 2hat muta into 3hat offensive gaurd all or nothing build
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
December 19 2009 09:07 GMT
#57
On December 19 2009 18:05 HiHiByeBye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 18:02 johanes wrote:
On December 19 2009 18:01 Mystlord wrote:
On December 19 2009 18:00 Hinanawi wrote:
Blizzard needs to release a patch to make Zerg stronger by removing the Greater Spire from the game.

Intended?

when was the last time zerg went guards and won?


I remember flash vs Luxury on Troy in the OSL where July won (i think)

Luxury went 3 gas guardians and transitioned well (he used guardians to slow flash's mid game push and then took a 4th and transitioned into ling/defilers)


yah good point i remember that game too. i think the main difference with these games and that one was there was no muta harass from luxury and as such he wasted very little resources replacing mutas.
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saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
December 19 2009 09:08 GMT
#58
Let's go Guemchi!
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
December 19 2009 09:08 GMT
#59
Guardians saw decent use on Colosseum as well, no?
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
December 19 2009 09:09 GMT
#60
2base reaver into carriers
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