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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 06 2009 06:04 GMT
#361
On December 06 2009 15:01 domane wrote:
The only uncertain game and Killer nails it. You could say he singlehandedly won the entire match.

Or that fantasy singlehandedly lost it.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
December 06 2009 06:04 GMT
#362
On December 06 2009 14:58 TheYango wrote:
In general, I just don't see how you can derive enjoyment out of a team losing.


Personally, I just enjoy seeing Fantasy and Bisu lose. They just happen to be on SKT1, and it's pretty hard for SKT1 to win if both of them lose.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7584 Posts
December 06 2009 06:05 GMT
#363
I love bisu fans crying.

Boxer and fantasy fans I respect but most of bisu's fans show such little understanding of starcraft that it drives real fans (who actually understand the game they are watching) to hate the team AND the player.

I think bisu is the best protoss in the history of the game but I love when he loses stupidly and his fans have a million stupid reasons for why it happend.

(oystein I still love you)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 06:10:41
December 06 2009 06:08 GMT
#364
On December 06 2009 15:04 Hinanawi wrote:
Personally, I just enjoy seeing Fantasy and Bisu lose. They just happen to be on SKT1, and it's pretty hard for SKT1 to win if both of them lose.

See, then I have to ask why? What have either of those players done to deserve that contempt? They both have produced strong, entertaining games of Starcraft, so in what way to they deserve to lose?

On December 06 2009 15:05 AttackZerg wrote:
Boxer and fantasy fans I respect but most of bisu's fans show such little understanding of starcraft that it drives real fans (who actually understand the game they are watching) to hate the team AND the player.

Huge generalization, but I suppose I can actually see this being true, given:

1) More successful player attract more bandwagoning and uninformed fans (meaning Bisu/Flash/Jaedong will obviously have more dumb bandwagon fans).
2) Many uninformed fans favor by race (e.g. Protoss players root for other Protoss players)
3) The majority of low level players are Protoss.

On an unrelated note: fuck my liquibets.
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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
December 06 2009 06:08 GMT
#365
On December 06 2009 15:05 AttackZerg wrote:
I love bisu fans crying.

Boxer and fantasy fans I respect but most of bisu's fans show such little understanding of starcraft that it drives real fans (who actually understand the game they are watching) to hate the team AND the player.

I think bisu is the best protoss in the history of the game but I love when he loses stupidly and his fans have a million stupid reasons for why it happend.

(oystein I still love you)

THIS lol. I don't like Fantasy either though
GANDHISAUCE
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
December 06 2009 06:09 GMT
#366
On December 06 2009 15:08 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 15:04 Hinanawi wrote:
Personally, I just enjoy seeing Fantasy and Bisu lose. They just happen to be on SKT1, and it's pretty hard for SKT1 to win if both of them lose.

See, then I have to ask why? What have either of those players done to deserve that contempt? They both have produced strong, entertaining games of Starcraft, so in what way to they deserve to lose?

On an unrelated note: fuck my liquibets.


Who said they deserve to lose? We just like to see them do it. Logic does not factor into this at all
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 06:13:42
December 06 2009 06:11 GMT
#367
On December 06 2009 15:09 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Who said they deserve to lose? We just like to see them do it. Logic does not factor into this at all

The question still stands, though. What about Bisu or his play makes it enjoyable to watch him lose?

I'm not trying to be whiny or troll or anything. I'm just legitimately curious about the mindset of anti-fandom. Mostly because I can't think of any players that immediately come to mind that I enjoy seeing lose.
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Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
December 06 2009 06:12 GMT
#368
On December 06 2009 15:08 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 15:04 Hinanawi wrote:
Personally, I just enjoy seeing Fantasy and Bisu lose. They just happen to be on SKT1, and it's pretty hard for SKT1 to win if both of them lose.

See, then I have to ask why? What have either of those players done to deserve that contempt? They both have produced strong, entertaining games of Starcraft, so in what way to they deserve to lose?

On an unrelated note: fuck my liquibets.


I don't take it as seriously as I think you think I do...I don't have 'contempt' for either of them. It's all in good fun for me.

It's just fun to have players to cheer against, as well as players to cheer for. Having a player or two that you love to hate, irrationally or not, is awesome.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
ItchReliever
Profile Joined April 2004
2489 Posts
December 06 2009 06:20 GMT
#369
fantasy needs to get his act together. the kid's been struggling as of late
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
December 06 2009 06:22 GMT
#370
On December 06 2009 15:11 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 15:09 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Who said they deserve to lose? We just like to see them do it. Logic does not factor into this at all

The question still stands, though. What about Bisu or his play makes it enjoyable to watch him lose?

I'm not trying to be whiny or troll or anything. I'm just legitimately curious about the mindset of anti-fandom. Mostly because I can't think of any players that immediately come to mind that I enjoy seeing lose.


Are you really trying to apply logic to something that has no logic?

Meh
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
December 06 2009 06:23 GMT
#371
On December 06 2009 14:12 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 14:10 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Bwahahahahaha owned SKT1, die scum!

That's a pretty douche thing to say.


Hated SKT1 since Boxer/oov, fantasy/Bisu just continued the hate.

TranslatorBaa!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 06:26:52
December 06 2009 06:26 GMT
#372
On December 06 2009 15:22 baubo wrote:
Are you really trying to apply logic to something that has no logic?

Probably, yes.

Not all preferences are illogical. I'm just curious whether anti-fandom is. Generally there's a logic to why people LIKE players (they perform well, have a style that meshes well with the fan's own style, create tense moments, etc.), so it's not exactly far-fetched that they might have a logic to disliking them.
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itzdoody
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada33 Posts
December 06 2009 06:27 GMT
#373
Bisu is getting weak ;(
김태연 fighting~ !
DeepGray
Profile Joined October 2008
United States214 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 06:31:24
December 06 2009 06:28 GMT
#374
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Oh yeah.

After falling from top 100 LB down to ~300 LB I finally got something right.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 06 2009 06:29 GMT
#375
On December 06 2009 15:28 DeepGray wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Oh yeah.
After falling from top 100 LB down to ~300 LB I finally got something right.

spoilers man
dats racist
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
December 06 2009 06:38 GMT
#376
On December 06 2009 15:11 TheYango wrote:
The question still stands, though. What about Bisu or his play makes it enjoyable to watch him lose?


The maps comments. When you have Flash of all people making comments that seem to be poking fun at you for your actions, you're a bit of a douchebag.


tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 07:08:13
December 06 2009 07:07 GMT
#377
On December 06 2009 15:38 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 15:11 TheYango wrote:
The question still stands, though. What about Bisu or his play makes it enjoyable to watch him lose?


The maps comments. When you have Flash of all people making comments that seem to be poking fun at you for your actions, you're a bit of a douchebag.



People actually give a shit about that?

I always thought that either he's just humoring the interviewer by playing along with the meme, or he's too shy/awkward to realize that he's being trolled (seeing as the interviewers *always* bring up the maps when its Bisu). Not sure how that reflects negatively on him, seeing as people known all along that he was shy/awkward.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
December 06 2009 07:17 GMT
#378
When will the vods be up O_o can't wait
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 06 2009 07:21 GMT
#379
So when I lose faith completely in Oz + Khan(my 2 favorite teams) in FPL they start raping shit up.

Who cares about FPL anyway?
FUCK YEAH OZ RAPING

3-0d

die SKT
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
XThunderyX
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States367 Posts
December 06 2009 07:27 GMT
#380
Haha my faith in Oz pays off. HiyA, JD and Killer on my team plus Oz as my pro-team hells yeah!
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