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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 11:31:47
December 02 2009 11:31 GMT
#1021
Look at the timing in that game, the number of expos Stork had... his unit control and his macro. Anyone whos calling this cheese and abuse is pretty much retarded. He steamrolled him with literally, every different unit.

Call the DT drop cheese, IDC that is 1 unit (all-inish) abuse, but not this.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
HiHiByeBye
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada365 Posts
December 02 2009 11:31 GMT
#1022
wow i thought stork was gona gg when flash was right infront of his nat
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
December 02 2009 11:31 GMT
#1023
Good sports =)

Flash and stork ====> smiles ====> me smile too
Jaedong :3
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
December 02 2009 11:31 GMT
#1024
On December 02 2009 20:30 motbob wrote:
So... imagine Flash has knowledge of the bottom right expo the moment it goes up. What is the correct course of action for him?

Is there anything he could have done to get ahead?


if he's absolutely sure it's double expo and there's no risk of quick tech, he gets a slightly more streamlined push, which may or may not be the difference?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
December 02 2009 11:32 GMT
#1025
On December 02 2009 20:30 SilverskY wrote:
But seriously, the most amazing thing about that game that really got me was. Both gamers, who have an intense history, started the match off with happy smiles. And even after the game, even Flash who lost the game, both finished with smiles. Real sportsmanship and spirit coming through, mad props to both.


Very true, I think that is why they are S-Class, such good attitudes
KTY
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 02 2009 11:32 GMT
#1026
On December 02 2009 20:24 Sadistx wrote:
I can't watch this. It's just too disgusting to see how OP protoss is when they take advantage of all their abusive strats in one game and the map favors them too.

Starcraft 2 come soon plz :/


Rofl what a bullshit. Storks perfect execution won him the game, not fucking abuse.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
December 02 2009 11:32 GMT
#1027
On December 02 2009 20:31 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 20:29 StylishVODs wrote:
On December 02 2009 20:24 Roffles wrote:
Once again, the lesson learned here is: Scout. Scout, scout, and more scouting. Failure to scout = Lose.


He scouted it in time with comsat.

The lesson learned is that protoss is favoured PvT.

Protoss can sacrifice 1 really early probe to take the gas, put enourmus preassure on terran early on and get still better economy even though terran gets his expansion much faster.
Terran still have to worry about DTs and reaver while protoss is pretty much safe to do what he wants.
Then protoss can just switch to whatever he want like in this case 4-5 stargates carriers and still survive because terran imobility, while expanding at the corners of the map with 1 cannon enough as defense. It's rediculous!

Flash fighting

Bullshit. if Flash scouted that ninja expo for Stork, he wins. He didnt, Stork pumped out way more units that Flash thought was physically possible and had his push broken.
Fantasy woulda punished Stork for taking those expo's, its Flash's fault he never checked for them

So Fantasy would have won that game. Uh huh.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
December 02 2009 11:32 GMT
#1028
On December 02 2009 19:46 konadora wrote:
Today's theme:

SCOUTING IS IMPORTANT

POGGERS
DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 11:33:25
December 02 2009 11:32 GMT
#1029
On December 02 2009 20:30 motbob wrote:
So... imagine Flash has knowledge of the bottom right expo the moment it goes up. What is the correct course of action for him?

Is there anything he could have done to get ahead?


If he had known about it when he pushed, he could have stayed on the bottom right spoke and sent a small force to kill it.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
December 02 2009 11:33 GMT
#1030
On December 02 2009 20:25 konadora wrote:
i lol @ people who said Stork was slumping just a few days ago


I lol back at you with a picture of Canata's face.
sh02hp0869
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden460 Posts
December 02 2009 11:33 GMT
#1031
Stork always seems to show his best against top opponents
Hello mother hello father
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 02 2009 11:33 GMT
#1032
On December 02 2009 20:31 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 20:29 StylishVODs wrote:
On December 02 2009 20:24 Roffles wrote:
Once again, the lesson learned here is: Scout. Scout, scout, and more scouting. Failure to scout = Lose.


He scouted it in time with comsat.

The lesson learned is that protoss is favoured PvT.

Protoss can sacrifice 1 really early probe to take the gas, put enourmus preassure on terran early on and get still better economy even though terran gets his expansion much faster.
Terran still have to worry about DTs and reaver while protoss is pretty much safe to do what he wants.
Then protoss can just switch to whatever he want like in this case 4-5 stargates carriers and still survive because terran imobility, while expanding at the corners of the map with 1 cannon enough as defense. It's rediculous!

Flash fighting

Bullshit. if Flash scouted that ninja expo for Stork, he wins. He didnt, Stork pumped out way more units that Flash thought was physically possible and had his push broken.
Fantasy woulda punished Stork for taking those expo's, its Flash's fault he never checked for them


He did push out early, dont call it bullshit.
He did it with starxsense because how easy is it to scout szomething with scvs when goons roam the map due to early preassure? elaborate on that please
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
finkelboy
Profile Joined December 2008
Italy372 Posts
December 02 2009 11:33 GMT
#1033
OMG byunggu is unbealiveble! This game had all we can hope for a PvT, i really love all about him, from his classic fast double expanding to his perfect defense to his brilliant decisions

STORK I LOVE U
Ma jae yoon, what else? By.hero next bonjwa
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 02 2009 11:33 GMT
#1034
On December 02 2009 20:29 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 20:28 FireGuyX wrote:
Flash has to win against Type-B and that won't be an easy game.

i lol'd


Flash doesnt do well vs OGN 2hat mutaling
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
December 02 2009 11:33 GMT
#1035
On December 02 2009 20:32 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 20:31 Chen wrote:
On December 02 2009 20:29 StylishVODs wrote:
On December 02 2009 20:24 Roffles wrote:
Once again, the lesson learned here is: Scout. Scout, scout, and more scouting. Failure to scout = Lose.


He scouted it in time with comsat.

The lesson learned is that protoss is favoured PvT.

Protoss can sacrifice 1 really early probe to take the gas, put enourmus preassure on terran early on and get still better economy even though terran gets his expansion much faster.
Terran still have to worry about DTs and reaver while protoss is pretty much safe to do what he wants.
Then protoss can just switch to whatever he want like in this case 4-5 stargates carriers and still survive because terran imobility, while expanding at the corners of the map with 1 cannon enough as defense. It's rediculous!

Flash fighting

Bullshit. if Flash scouted that ninja expo for Stork, he wins. He didnt, Stork pumped out way more units that Flash thought was physically possible and had his push broken.
Fantasy woulda punished Stork for taking those expo's, its Flash's fault he never checked for them

So Fantasy would have won that game. Uh huh.

Fantasy wouldn'tve let stork take 60 billion expos, considering his style. Stork probably would've beaten him anyways but Flash needs to learn a little from him and harass once in a while. First vs Best and now vs Stork hes lost cause he lets toss take way to many uncontested bases
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
December 02 2009 11:33 GMT
#1036
Storks to do list:

[X] Lose 30 lbs
[X] Gas Steal
[X] Beat Flash

What a great day.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 02 2009 11:33 GMT
#1037
Wow...

I seriously can see Flash getting knocked in the OSL...

Don't take me wrong, I love Flash and I know he's been a TvZ monster!!!

But losing to tybe.b at this critical moment would be so so not surprising.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
December 02 2009 11:34 GMT
#1038
On December 02 2009 20:29 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 20:24 Roffles wrote:
Once again, the lesson learned here is: Scout. Scout, scout, and more scouting. Failure to scout = Lose.

bla bla bla protoss imba bla bla bla


rediculous!



cool story bro
UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
December 02 2009 11:34 GMT
#1039
did flash really play that well?

- stork double-expanded and still fought off the push. it was a rather weak push. perhaps a bunker+rines would have made it stronger
- flash scouted the hidden expo super late
- flash did nothing about that hidden expo
- flash let stork get up to 5 bases by the end of the game
- flash did nothing to harass any of stork's bases

i mean, yeah, he played well, but i wouldn't say he played all that great. i did like his game sense though, he expected the carriers even before he scanned them seeing that stork's ground army wasnt getting any bigger. but thats about all i can commend flash for this game sadly. and his decision to back off and defend at the elimination race moment was not good i dont think. i'd say he could have taken those carriers, and destroyed at least the natural and then gone back.

oh well im happy stork won
#1 Movie fan~ he's got so much skill it oozes out of his skin in the form of acne. ~family comes first~
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
December 02 2009 11:34 GMT
#1040
if he sees the bottom right expo first, stork prolly wouldnt be able to support his 4 gate cariers
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