wtf do you mean AGAIN -.- we've had 1 good PvP BoX all fricked season cause of dumb zergs so i for one want a good showing by tosses, esp cause Bisu-Stork PvP defies all logic and is always fucking awesome.

pvp is more boring than zvz

zvp is the best matchup

gk_ender

United States717 Posts

November 14 2009 07:33 GMT

#923

On November 14 2009 16:27 jalstar wrote:

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he was kespa top 30 for 7 years.

everyone talks about savior being the most dominant but nada was good for so much longer

Yeah nada was the most successful overall
But then again savior had the highest winning percentage of all time

unionbank

Australia666 Posts

November 14 2009 07:34 GMT

#924

On November 14 2009 16:32 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Just so nobody spends too much time trying to get the page to load and guess the wrong one. Bisu is FPV1 and Jaedong is FPV2.

Respect G!

TheWD

United States31 Posts

November 14 2009 07:34 GMT

#925

On November 14 2009 16:32 i.of.the.storm wrote:
Anyone else getting tired of this "Beyond the game" crap?

Never. The WCG theme song is my ring tone. It is the song I wake up to in the morning. When I am taking a nice relaxing bath with some candles and maybe even some bath salts if I am feeling crazy I make sure it is playing. When I am engaging in sexual intercourse I also put "Beyond the Game" on the stereo

Jyvblamo

Canada13788 Posts

November 14 2009 07:34 GMT

#926

On November 14 2009 16:33 QibingZero wrote:

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I was a few years ago, but by now it's numbed my brain and I no longer have a response.

Same here...
It's even beginning to grow on me a little, somehow.

Bifur

Russian Federation1208 Posts

November 14 2009 07:34 GMT

#927

On November 14 2009 16:20 Ilikestarcraft wrote:

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On November 14 2009 16:19 Bifur wrote:

On November 14 2009 16:17 Camlito wrote:

On November 14 2009 16:12 Spt.Worked wrote:

On November 14 2009 16:07 gk_ender wrote:

On November 14 2009 15:57 KrAzYfoOL wrote:

On November 14 2009 15:51 Spt.Worked wrote:
last thing I will post here since I can see all of you think the new school foreigners are so great.

if guys like Fisheye, Mondi, Blackman, Testie, Elky, Draco were in their youth and playing BW as much as the new foreigners at this time. They would be far far far better than what we are seeing from these foreigners at WCG. Back in the day the Foreigners were 1 maybe 2 steps behind the koreans. Today, the new crew of foreigners do not even belong to be in the same game as the koreans. Koll our last foreigner left looks like a D- iccup player vs Stork right now. That is what my point is, the old school players had more NATURAL skill

bye all ~~~

Hmmm i recall boxer making blackman look like a complete newbie on lost temple at WCG.

Ok now this is where you dismiss this point and make another one.

Your an idiot, this is to the guy who thinks foreigners now are worse. Do you not realize how much the koreans play???? Since then there practice got ramped up to 10 hours at the least. Like your fucking kidding right? Do you have any idea, the royal raping new school koreans do to the old school crew? And natural talent is bs coming from a kid who has never spoken to a single good player in your life. Because they practiced the same amount as these new guys, mondragon spent ridiculous amounts of time perfecting his style. AND A HUGE FYI, new school kids just took games from pros, they do all the all the time, rets taken a game off of kal, white ra and g-5 beat boxer (which your old school kids could not do). Your lack of understanding of the scene serves as nothing but a laughing point for the rest of us.

I hope you realize that Korean Pro teams have had the same training since about 2001. The skill gap has only increased because our new foreigners are not as good as the old ones.

The old ones only seemed much better because the koreans were no where near as dominant then.. it's not about new foreigners just being worse and copying everything. Let's see all the old top foreigners come back, use smart, strategic play, and dominate? Could they?

In fact, koreans became untouchable only two years ago.

Remember the history:
2005 - Androide killed Silent_Control
2006 - Draco killed Midas and almost killed iloveoov
2007 - Pj killed Savior
2008 - Koreans are untouchable
2009 - Koreans are untouchable

you forgot 2004

xellos won 13-0
Probably most dominant wcg performence from a player ever

Yes, Xellos was perfect at that time, but other Koreans wasn't:
Advokate won a game over Midas and Testie won a game over Foru

ssj114

Afghanistan461 Posts

November 14 2009 07:34 GMT

#928

On November 14 2009 16:33 gk_ender wrote:

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Yeah nada was the most successful overall
But then again savior had the highest winning percentage of all time

Highest winning percentage? What about Flash and Jaedong?

nayumi

Australia6499 Posts

November 14 2009 07:34 GMT

#929

I was watching drivec's stream. The music was a bit loud so I tried to lower it down by clicking on that orange volume bar.

FML!

i.of.the.storm

United States795 Posts

November 14 2009 07:35 GMT

#930

On November 14 2009 16:33 blabber wrote:

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never!

Haha, alright then.

r33k

Italy3402 Posts

November 14 2009 07:35 GMT

#931

On November 14 2009 16:32 nayumi wrote:

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I kinda like it lol

So does sAviOr apparently...

igotmyown

United States4291 Posts

November 14 2009 07:35 GMT

#932

You can watch bisu warm up on Player 1 cam and Jaedong on Player 2

QibingZero

2611 Posts

November 14 2009 07:35 GMT

#933

On November 14 2009 16:33 gk_ender wrote:

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Yeah nada was the most successful overall
But then again savior had the highest winning percentage of all time

Huh? Highest winning percentage in what?

This thread has a ridiculous amount of misinfo in it, haha...

Chen

United States6344 Posts

November 14 2009 07:35 GMT

#934

On November 14 2009 16:33 jalstar wrote:

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pvp is more boring than zvz

zvp is the best matchup

PvP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ZvZ, esp Bisu Stork games. PvP we actually get to see some macro and more than 5 fricken units and 1 strategy used.

jalstar

United States8198 Posts

November 14 2009 07:36 GMT

#935

On November 14 2009 16:34 ssj114 wrote:

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Highest winning percentage? What about Flash and Jaedong?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=105663

Avidkeystamper

United States8556 Posts

November 14 2009 07:37 GMT

#936

On November 14 2009 16:35 Chen wrote:

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PvP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ZvZ, esp Bisu Stork games. PvP we actually get to see some macro and more than 5 fricken units and 1 strategy used.

Maybe it's subjective. No? okay.

On November 14 2009 16:36 jalstar wrote:

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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=105663

But Savior's around 3rd in that. Not to mention that's not the meaning of "of all time".