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On October 27 2009 20:41 Holgerius wrote:
He knew Leta went 2 Rax the last game he played, and he knew there's been a lot of sunken breaks lately, especially from Hite players. And considering he's been playing the game 10 hours a day for several years time he ought to have bumped into 2 Rax FE more than a few times. The timing push is virtually the same anyway.
He saw the timing, as evident by when he morphed his sunken. He just didn't expect the marine numbers. So obviously he did not expect that many marines.
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On October 27 2009 23:11 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2009 20:41 Holgerius wrote:
He knew Leta went 2 Rax the last game he played, and he knew there's been a lot of sunken breaks lately, especially from Hite players. And considering he's been playing the game 10 hours a day for several years time he ought to have bumped into 2 Rax FE more than a few times. The timing push is virtually the same anyway. He saw the timing, as evident by when he morphed his sunken. He just didn't expect the marine numbers. So obviously he did not expect that many marines.
And that is what is so bad about it. Zero game sense.
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eSTRO has to send UpMagic and Classic... 
Damn, Sparkyz is such a trash team, I'm disappointed.
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dont really know what hyvaa did wrong tbh, he shouldnt need to build a 3rd sunken if he went 2 hatch
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On October 28 2009 05:19 zulu_nation8 wrote:
dont really know what hyvaa did wrong tbh, he shouldnt need to build a 3rd sunken if he went 2 hatch
How about making some speedlings then?
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he shouldntve needed to build anything besides 2 sunkens, I think leta did something with his build so his marines came out extra early. It's 2 rax expo vs 2 hatch muta, theres no way a terran can break sunken, kill drones, and while hes attacking the natural hatchery mutas finaly pop out.
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On October 28 2009 05:39 zulu_nation8 wrote:
he shouldntve needed to build anything besides 2 sunkens, I think leta did something with his build so his marines came out extra early. It's 2 rax expo vs 2 hatch muta, theres no way a terran can break sunken, kill drones, and while hes attacking the natural hatchery mutas finaly pop out.
Of course he had to do something besides that; he lost didn't he?
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hey what do you know. Estro flamed out
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i meant the timing should never work out that way, when terran tries to break sunkens vs 3 hatch muta, the mutas would come out earlier than hyvaa's mutas.
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Leta's attack could actually have been faster if he'd gone gas/acad simultaneously and cut scvs. You need 3 sunkens against 2 rax expo --> stim timing., especially at such close positions. I mean come on, 3:45 academy when you've got 6 rines!? Clearly you're going to have 6 more when it finishes at 4:30, giving 2 medics at 4:50, move out then, stim done by 5:30, 30 seconds before standard 2 hatch muta finishes.
It's a nasty timing that forces 3rd sunken. Was pure fail by Hyvaa not to put up 3 sunks when he saw the cc timing.
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Just watched the VOD. Things I noted: Leta started making 2 rines when Hyvaa's drone was still in his base, and the cancelled them when the drone went out in order to get a faster CC. Hyvaa added a 3d hatchery in his main right before the 5 minute mark. Leta then hit with perfect timing at about 5:40, pretty much exactly as mutas were in making. It seemed to me that making that hatchery delayed his mutas by a little, because he didn't make them immediately after his Spire finished. So, Leta had perfect timing, and Hyvaa had a less than perfect build.
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Since then didn't put upmagic in their line up, I really hoped eSTRO would be able to win twice and take the match to Outsider SE and then send up out for another great match like the one vs. Lux.
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Go type-b! New Hite Zerg Ace!
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EPT
