On October 21 2009 15:27 3clipse wrote:
I have Yarnc on my fantasy PL actually, but he's letting me down. :/
I have Yarnc on my fantasy PL actually, but he's letting me down. :/
Not due to muta micro, though. It's still kick ass.
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On October 21 2009 15:27 3clipse wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2009 15:26 Holgerius wrote: On October 21 2009 15:24 3clipse wrote: On October 21 2009 15:20 samachking wrote: On October 21 2009 15:18 3clipse wrote: Man, hero's muta micro is just unbelievable. Every single Zerg can do that nowadays,even relative nonames like Soulkey who did this on this map in the testing, this map is just plain good for 2hat muta. I've yet to see a zerg besides Jaedong with tighter muta micro on a consistent basis. You need to watch the twins moar. I have Yarnc on my fantasy PL actually, but he's letting me down. :/ Not due to muta micro, though. It's still kick ass. | ||
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
On October 21 2009 15:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2009 15:25 p4NDemik wrote: Well I was wrong in regards to this game (although I'll still stand by my argument for hero, his game lives and dies by the muta harass) - btw LOL at That game wasn't the Muta harass - Ruby did a good job of recovering from the slow Turrets. It was hero's defense of a mass blob of MnM with pure Mutalisks that saved him - and defending MnM with pure Mutalisks is very difficult TBH. Even Jaedong misses swings with pure Mutalisk against MnM, people need to stop discrediting hero so much :< But, as people have said, hero took a lot of unnecessary fire from the rines. His mutas survived, but not solely or even mostly because of micro. Edit: Yeah, everyone misses some. Just saying he was sitting there getting shot a lot and nothing was dying. | ||
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fnaticNoname
India858 Posts
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
On October 21 2009 15:29 Pyrthas wrote: But, as people have said, hero took a lot of unnecessary fire from the rines. His mutas survived, but not solely or even mostly because of micro. Hero took so many hits because he was being so damn aggressive with them. Most zergs just swoop in intermittently, giving the mutas time to heal and the terran a chance to have his attention focused elsewhere. Hero was absolutely relentless and did loads of damage. His casualties were understandable and well justified. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On October 21 2009 15:29 Pyrthas wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2009 15:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: On October 21 2009 15:25 p4NDemik wrote: Well I was wrong in regards to this game (although I'll still stand by my argument for hero, his game lives and dies by the muta harass) - btw LOL at That game wasn't the Muta harass - Ruby did a good job of recovering from the slow Turrets. It was hero's defense of a mass blob of MnM with pure Mutalisks that saved him - and defending MnM with pure Mutalisks is very difficult TBH. Even Jaedong misses swings with pure Mutalisk against MnM, people need to stop discrediting hero so much :< But, as people have said, hero took a lot of unnecessary fire from the rines. His mutas survived, but not because of micro. The +1 definitely helped, but a lesser Zerg would've died regardless of the +1. There's a reason you don't see much pure Mutalisk vs. MnM - it's ridiculously difficult, since one miss means you get completely raped. There was no unnecessary fire, because so far no one has good enough Mutalisk micro to avoid all that fire. You kinda just have to go in, and accept the fact that you will take fire because you're not gonna be able to do a perfect hit every time - you just have to make sure it happens most of the time, which is still very difficult. I maintain that hero's Mutalisk micro is exceptional. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On October 21 2009 15:28 MuffinDude wrote: Haha, skt, cj, hite, and khan all ranked in lower half. Yeah, the start of this season is amazing IMO. It's really cool to see Ace, Estro and Wemade putting up a fight instead of being autowin for the big teams. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
On October 21 2009 15:27 3clipse wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2009 15:26 Holgerius wrote: On October 21 2009 15:24 3clipse wrote: On October 21 2009 15:20 samachking wrote: On October 21 2009 15:18 3clipse wrote: Man, hero's muta micro is just unbelievable. Every single Zerg can do that nowadays,even relative nonames like Soulkey who did this on this map in the testing, this map is just plain good for 2hat muta. I've yet to see a zerg besides Jaedong with tighter muta micro on a consistent basis. You need to watch the twins moar. I have Yarnc on my fantasy PL actually, but he's letting me down. :/ So down indeed.. I had hopes for him. Glad that STX and Calm won though, I started feeling depressed already. | ||
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On October 21 2009 15:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2009 15:25 p4NDemik wrote: Well I was wrong in regards to this game (although I'll still stand by my argument for hero, his game lives and dies by the muta harass) - btw LOL at That game wasn't the Muta harass - Ruby did a good job of recovering from the slow Turrets. It was hero's defense of a mass blob of MnM with pure Mutalisks that saved him - and defending MnM with pure Mutalisks is very difficult TBH. Even Jaedong misses swings with pure Mutalisk against MnM, people need to stop discrediting hero so much :< Even if he wasn't harassing RuBy's economy at all he still predicated that entire game on harassing RuBy's army and keeping it at bay while he teched up. I'll admit it was sick control by hero, but that is really all he has (and these days it doesn't really make you stand out among the masses of zergs - most of which have exemplary muta control). Back in the days of Blue Storm Jaedong built his reputation on this style of play, but nowadays it isn't enough to get zergs wins regularly against top terrans. hero is a one trick pony in ZvT, and he'll need to get better elsewhere in the matchup before he's a real threat imo. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
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disciple
9070 Posts
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
STX <3 | ||
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10344 Posts
I think from now on, every time someone wins an ace match, we should all write about how bad they are... | ||
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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
CURSE YOU STX | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 21 2009 15:27 samachking wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2009 15:24 3clipse wrote: On October 21 2009 15:20 samachking wrote: On October 21 2009 15:18 3clipse wrote: Man, hero's muta micro is just unbelievable. Every single Zerg can do that nowadays,even relative nonames like Soulkey who did this on this map in the testing, this map is just plain good for 2hat muta. I've yet to see a zerg besides Jaedong with tighter muta micro on a consistent basis. Zero Not nearly as good. | ||
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imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
damn it, it's still a good result for ACE. STX is (supposed to be..) one of the strongest teams! | ||
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