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KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
January 11 2009 20:42 GMT
#21
basically legionnaire's tips are good for improving macro..
1. keep making workers non stop --> macro
2. hotkey Production buildings. and learn the unit production keys. --> macro
moshi moshi~
rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
January 11 2009 21:38 GMT
#22

4 - Scout. i always scouted late, but i pretty much knew what most ppl would do. You do not. You must scout.


Looks like we have a hacker in our hands!
RinoZerg
Profile Joined May 2008
Australia130 Posts
January 11 2009 21:46 GMT
#23
I've just started playing on ICCUP and these fundamentals are solid advice. I think at the low skill levels of the game, good macro is far more important that good micro. In every game I've played so far the win has gone to the biggest a-move (Not a protoss knock, we Zerg can a-move too).

Thanks for the repost.
Patrio
Profile Joined September 2007
Norway706 Posts
January 11 2009 22:10 GMT
#24
This needs to be in recomended threads, cause this is a great tip for low level players
Zerg Bunker
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
January 11 2009 22:13 GMT
#25
On January 12 2009 03:52 thunk wrote:
His point are still valid even though there might be some era bias. Just change you're idea of decent macro and the guide's still very legit.

Show nested quote +

On August 03 2008 12:00 Legionnaire wrote:

If you do steps 1 to 4, and KEEP doing it, you will become a C rank player.


Remember, this is the kid who had 3 builds, 1 for each MU, and made the top 48. Really impressive, because it means that he was able to get up to B+ using that advice.

I think there should be a ![G] in front of this, or at least a [G].

Nice find SoMuchBetter.



This is the "Kid" that went to korea and basically played and lived as a progamer for a number of years, also managed to beat Xellos and Boxer, while setting a record for highest kills on a reaver and all-killing an entire pro-gaming team.



Winners never quit, quitters never win.
StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-11 22:32:55
January 11 2009 22:28 GMT
#26
On January 12 2009 07:13 meRz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2009 03:52 thunk wrote:
His point are still valid even though there might be some era bias. Just change you're idea of decent macro and the guide's still very legit.


On August 03 2008 12:00 Legionnaire wrote:

If you do steps 1 to 4, and KEEP doing it, you will become a C rank player.


Remember, this is the kid who had 3 builds, 1 for each MU, and made the top 48. Really impressive, because it means that he was able to get up to B+ using that advice.

I think there should be a ![G] in front of this, or at least a [G].

Nice find SoMuchBetter.



This is the "Kid" that went to korea and basically played and lived as a progamer for a number of years, also managed to beat Xellos and Boxer, while setting a record for highest kills on a reaver and all-killing an entire pro-gaming team.




Don't forget he destroyed the first (and only) PGT Tournament.

Saying he was able to get up to B+ is almost an insult to Leg. In his prime he was easily able to reach A+ on PGT.
Retired BW Noob
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36361 Posts
January 11 2009 22:36 GMT
#27
On January 12 2009 03:52 thunk wrote:
His point are still valid even though there might be some era bias. Just change you're idea of decent macro and the guide's still very legit.

Show nested quote +

On August 03 2008 12:00 Legionnaire wrote:

If you do steps 1 to 4, and KEEP doing it, you will become a C rank player.


Remember, this is the kid who had 3 builds, 1 for each MU, and made the top 48. Really impressive, because it means that he was able to get up to B+ using that advice.

I think there should be a ![G] in front of this, or at least a [G].

Nice find SoMuchBetter.

i know you meant well, but making the TSL Top 48 is probably last in Legionnaires list of accomplishments hehe
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39402 Posts
January 11 2009 22:52 GMT
#28
professional cheque stealer is at the top.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
January 11 2009 22:57 GMT
#29
On January 12 2009 03:52 thunk wrote:
His point are still valid even though there might be some era bias. Just change you're idea of decent macro and the guide's still very legit.

Show nested quote +

On August 03 2008 12:00 Legionnaire wrote:

If you do steps 1 to 4, and KEEP doing it, you will become a C rank player.


Remember, this is the kid who had 3 builds, 1 for each MU, and made the top 48. Really impressive, because it means that he was able to get up to B+ using that advice.

I think there should be a ![G] in front of this, or at least a [G].

Nice find SoMuchBetter.


Oh my god.

Well, 3k posts in not even a year...

"This kid"

hilarious.
Complete the cycle!
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
January 12 2009 00:01 GMT
#30
all you have to do is play perfectly, the more mistakes you make the less likely you can win. thats why newbs are newbs they dont even know what mistakes to not make LOL.
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-12 00:12:45
January 12 2009 00:11 GMT
#31
On January 12 2009 03:52 thunk wrote:
His point are still valid even though there might be some era bias. Just change you're idea of decent macro and the guide's still very legit.

i don't think theres any era bias at all. leg's advice is pretty much as fundamental as you can get

On January 12 2009 09:01 Hypnosis wrote:
all you have to do is play perfectly, the more mistakes you make the less likely you can win. thats why newbs are newbs they dont even know what mistakes to not make LOL.

great advice let me send that off to all the progamers right now. stork might even want to know that making the mistake of not getting goon range was a bad idea
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
January 12 2009 08:16 GMT
#32
This guide will get help players get to D+ level (maaybbee C-), but not C as the guide claims. I know this was written during the PGT period, but I just wanted to point that out.
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka26649 Posts
January 12 2009 08:17 GMT
#33
This post was written 5 months ago -_-
Moderator@Manifesto7 - Ancient.
zXk3
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Mexico1178 Posts
January 12 2009 08:24 GMT
#34
im living proof, just reseted my nick and playing doing only this, lets see how long it takes
GraphicsNo soy dominante, solo tengo mejores ideas...| Sorry Oshi, 4-1 shows that im better than you =D i wont do any more mistakes now
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 12 2009 11:16 GMT
#35
On January 12 2009 17:24 zXk3 wrote:
im living proof, just reseted my nick and playing doing only this, lets see how long it takes


gl
And all is illuminated.
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-07 02:40:45
March 07 2009 02:39 GMT
#36
hee hee.

You would be surprised how hard 1 is to do. Its something that you should aspire too, trying to improve it as much as you can. I doubt a single person in the TSL did 1 perfectly for the first 15mins of any game, in any of the 1000 games or so that were played. (zerg would be hard to quantify)

Another bit of advice. Never be afraid to lose. Try and go out of your comfort zone whenever you can. Losing if utilized correctly is a lesson to be learned. I know its a good ego trip to win 80% of the time vs your friends or to be the best player in a clan or channel. But you aren't learning anything that can make yourself better.
You should find a few people who are just a fraction better than you are, and play verse them. Over time without even noticing it, you will be stealing their skills and improving. At which time you then find newer people.

This is a 'do as i say, not as i do' post. As i didn't like going out of my comfort zone vs zerg. Hence i sucked It was so much easier slapping around terrans.

Oh shit sorry about the bump. :S
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
LOcDowN
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1013 Posts
March 07 2009 03:03 GMT
#37
On March 07 2009 11:39 Legionnaire wrote:
Try and go out of your comfort zone whenever you can. Losing if utilized correctly is a lesson to be learned.


epic quote, will save and reflect upon it. thank you sir.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11141 Posts
March 07 2009 03:39 GMT
#38
You're really supposed to continue pumping drones in the mid game as zerg? I thought you were supposed to drone whore until a certain point and then make units (and obviously drone up your expos).
brood war for life, brood war forever
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
March 07 2009 04:26 GMT
#39
On January 12 2009 17:16 Seraphim wrote:
This guide will get help players get to D+ level (maaybbee C-), but not C as the guide claims. I know this was written during the PGT period, but I just wanted to point that out.


It's fairly certain one can get to C if you can fufill all the requirements of these steps.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
March 07 2009 07:01 GMT
#40
On March 07 2009 12:39 Crunchums wrote:
You're really supposed to continue pumping drones in the mid game as zerg? I thought you were supposed to drone whore until a certain point and then make units (and obviously drone up your expos).


It's been recently discussed that good zerg players make drones throughout the game. It takes practice to know when you can fit in a few extra drones without getting destroyed.
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