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Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States663 Posts
October 22 2021 20:24 GMT
#1
Quick question. I've watched Zero's streams for a long time and one thing I've noticed that I have no quite figured out is:

When multitasking and quickly framing back to his base he will select idle drones and sometime group drones that are either already mining or on their way back to the hatchery with mineral and then he selects a mineral patch. The idle drones start to mine yet the ones already working are not disrupted and continue on. How is this possible?

I thought possibly he rekeyed his (G) gather command and that only idle drones will follow this but he does it so quickly it seems he is only using mouse.
aka: Yaj
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland555 Posts
October 22 2021 21:00 GMT
#2
You can queue orders with shift, and that's what was most likely done by Zero in the decribed situation. Idle drones will be sent to mine, working drones will be told to mine from that specific mineral field after they are done with the whole mineral line.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
October 22 2021 21:17 GMT
#3
Do you have a clip of this?
-.-
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States663 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-22 21:44:00
October 22 2021 21:42 GMT
#4
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxDmtAbrIk7xgXGZJ9iKfvEoGymXAYO6Cw

See link for clip. You can see that he selects 3 drones total. One of which is already mining and on the way back to the top most patch of the natural. The other two are directed to the patch below yet the original continues on the same path to the top patch.
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LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
October 22 2021 22:46 GMT
#5
Definitely what Bonyth said. You can use the same trick to get other units our of your mineral line. My guess is that the worker will not move to where you sent the units once all the minerals are gone, since mining constantly switches between the gathering and carriage return commands.
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MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-23 07:35:38
October 23 2021 07:00 GMT
#6
Tested scenarios:

SCV to mineral, queue on ground = SCV keeps mining until all minerals are gone then idles.
SCV to mineral, queue on refinery = As above.

SCV to refinery, queue on ground = SCV takes gas, goes to position and idles.
SCV to refinery, queue on mineral, queue on refinery = SCV takes gas, takes mineral, goes to refinery.

SCV delivers mineral, queue on ground = SCV delivers mineral, mines mineral.
SCV delivers gas, queue on ground = SCV delivers gas, takes gas, goes to position and idles.

SCV has gas, return cargo, queue mineral = SCV deliver gas, takes gas, mines mineral.
SCV has gas, rightclicked mineral, return cargo = SCV delivers gas, mines mineral.

SCV has mineral, rightclicked gas, return cargo = SCV delivers mineral, mines minerals, no minerals left goes to idle.
SCV has mineral, rightclicked gas, return cargo, queue refinery = As above.

Dont know what you want to call it, Shift-sorting / Queue-sorting? Make a selection ring around mineral miners+military, shift-rightclick anywhere and it will sort military and keep miners mining.

Kind of the same principle with dropships. If you have the dropship queued it wont listen to your current queue command. Dropping off SCVs you can shift-mineral each dropping worker for it to go work as soon as its on the ground while not disturbing the SCVs you just put to work or the dropship from dropping units. Nerdy stuff.

Even nerdier: If you fill your dropships queue buffer of "back to base" orders, it wont listen to your shift-mineral queue commands and wont fly back to minerals you just shift-mineraled with SCVs. You will however need to select the last SCV manually and not use selection ring over Dropship as after last SCV one order is completed and queue buffer isnt full anymore.
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