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EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1602 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-10 14:07:36
March 10 2017 14:07 GMT
#41
On March 09 2017 22:00 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I think it was me, froz, veg and Raszi, maybe someone else, who smurfed as a korean proteam during the WGTour period where a lot of top koreans actaully did play WGTour. I dunno if me, veg or raszi really tricked anyone, and we picked lesser known names anyway, but Froz pretended to be Nada, and he was like 33-0 with 350 apm in every game, and I remember reading posts from top foreigners at the time thinking he was the real one. I don't even know if it was ever debunked.

This was like 13-14 years ago so I don't remember everything, but from quick googling we must have pretended to be Toona SG. Froz pretended to be Nada and I pretended to be Salmosa, our collective team stats were something like 100-3 (we all stopped playing before reaching higher ranks where it became more difficult).


That was an awesome time to be playing Brood War. The smurfing Korean's called themselves the Korean Dream Team.
Oh the memories... aNc even beat them in a clan war once. More stories please Eri.
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/news/359-anc-beat-koreadreamteam
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1602 Posts
March 10 2017 14:12 GMT
#42
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Nada was a beast back in 03!
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
March 10 2017 18:19 GMT
#43
So did Testie reach A+ yet or did he quit bw again?
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
March 10 2017 21:29 GMT
#44
--- Nuked ---
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10337 Posts
March 11 2017 07:38 GMT
#45
On March 11 2017 06:29 Ty2 wrote:
He hasn't touched the game since the new season. I guess when his twitch channel got banned things slowed down. The highest he got I think was C- or C.

What happened??
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28830 Posts
March 11 2017 10:11 GMT
#46
One day, he decided that today is a good day to be a racist idiot.
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B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
March 11 2017 15:51 GMT
#47
His ban is expected and justified but don't call anyone a racist just for using the "n-word" even if it's used in an insulting manner. It trivializes real racism that consists of something more than just using COMMON cuss-words at someone that is clearly annoying you.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28830 Posts
March 11 2017 16:08 GMT
#48
Disagree completely, and I've consistently argued, for some years now, that 'racist' is a term that is thrown around (far) too frequently, and that the term has largely lost its poignancy and usefulness for that reason. But Testie telling a guy to 'stop being such a nigger' because he was listening to rap and speaking ebonics, I have no problems defining that as being racist. Either way, I've had quite lengthy discussions with Testie about this, and he literally argues that black people are more criminal because they have worse genes than white people and asians. He's a self-admitted racist by any definition.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-31 16:39:12
March 31 2017 16:35 GMT
#49
Testie is a complete dumbass with dumb opinions and unmatched stubbornness

that said I love him dearly. Despite all his foibles, he was a great friend to me for many years
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 31 2017 16:47 GMT
#50
I actually got Testie a pro tryout once. I sent a bunch of his replays to a coach I was acquainted with. The coach was very concerned about Testie playing multiple races, but he liked what he saw. He said if Testie could play just one race, he'd give him a tryout.

Testie ended up playing 3-4 games PvT vs Silent_Control, which the coach and I obs'd and just talked generally about Testie as a player. I made the best case for him that I could, but he got dusted REALLY bad by Silent_Control. He was very nervous while playing.


But most of all, I'll always remember the day I convinced Testie to shave his soul patch. "I'll do it but if there's a zit under there I'll kill you", he said.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 09:17:51
April 01 2017 09:13 GMT
#51
On April 01 2017 01:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Testie is a complete dumbass with dumb opinions and unmatched stubbornness

that said I love him dearly. Despite all his foibles, he was a great friend to me for many years


Not all the time, but most of the time.


And to address OP, Testie's best race was P, I remember sitting next to him at blizzcon when he beat Nal_Ra in a PvP.

I think i sniped the replays after the games and uploaded them.


[image loading]

IIRC tasteless was taking the picture

(how many of you still have some of that clothes you wear?)
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
April 01 2017 14:51 GMT
#52
Testie and Mondragon were never on the same level... never ever
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
April 01 2017 15:02 GMT
#53
On January 30 2017 20:30 kogeT wrote:
I recently watched some game of Avernum (when he was in ToT) vs Testie TvP and I nearly got cancer from watching it. xD It's funny how these top performers of these days looked like current C- players.



This is one of the silliest claim ever made on SC-BW history. Go back and play Mondragon, Draco, Ret or any of those and then we see who looks like a C- ... these guys were good, they were very good, they were good back in the day, and they would be good now. Most of them might easily get to A nowadays when properly trained ... don't want to be rude, but saying top performers of that days look like C- is total bullshit. Maybe the playstyle was slightly different, this might be ... but that's it.
plast1c
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany101 Posts
April 01 2017 21:58 GMT
#54
They were good, but Broodwar has evolved a lot since back then and that is why they look like current C- players. The game was played differently back then. It's the same in football, any great team from the 70s would probably lose to a current football team just because football evolved so much. They were good back in their time and if they started today, they would be great as well.
kinda right, kinda wrong
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
April 02 2017 00:00 GMT
#55
On February 12 2017 12:42 sicklucker wrote:
pvt is the easiast mu no wonder it was best for alot of foriegnners. it was my best and i didnt even play protoss really. as in easiest to master not the easiest matchup

Easiest to master? What? It's basically impossible to master any match up. You can get really really good at it (which no foreigner has ever done by the way...compared to top korean pros) Put any P player against Flash and look how "easy it is to master".
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
April 02 2017 00:44 GMT
#56
On April 02 2017 09:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2017 12:42 sicklucker wrote:
pvt is the easiast mu no wonder it was best for alot of foriegnners. it was my best and i didnt even play protoss really. as in easiest to master not the easiest matchup

Easiest to master? What? It's basically impossible to master any match up. You can get really really good at it (which no foreigner has ever done by the way...compared to top korean pros) Put any P player against Flash and look how "easy it is to master".


If you define "master" as "dominate Flash" than of course no matchup can be mastered.

It was a hyperbolic statement, but contains some truth. PvT is the easiest matchup, up to a pretty high level of skill. I'd guess up to iCCup B level, maybe even more. That's pretty damn high.

Once you get past a certain point, the matchup gets pretty even. But being B level iCCup makes you a top 1000 player outside of Korea (might also need to exclude China). So I think by some reasonable choice of standard, you could call that "mastery".
WhiteKnight.US
Profile Joined May 2014
Great Britain102 Posts
April 02 2017 01:06 GMT
#57
A new season started, and Testie's still playing occasionally. (40 games played).
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
April 05 2017 16:39 GMT
#58
On April 02 2017 09:44 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2017 09:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On February 12 2017 12:42 sicklucker wrote:
pvt is the easiast mu no wonder it was best for alot of foriegnners. it was my best and i didnt even play protoss really. as in easiest to master not the easiest matchup

Easiest to master? What? It's basically impossible to master any match up. You can get really really good at it (which no foreigner has ever done by the way...compared to top korean pros) Put any P player against Flash and look how "easy it is to master".


If you define "master" as "dominate Flash" than of course no matchup can be mastered.

It was a hyperbolic statement, but contains some truth. PvT is the easiest matchup, up to a pretty high level of skill. I'd guess up to iCCup B level, maybe even more. That's pretty damn high.

Once you get past a certain point, the matchup gets pretty even. But being B level iCCup makes you a top 1000 player outside of Korea (might also need to exclude China). So I think by some reasonable choice of standard, you could call that "mastery".

I win a lot of green ranked zergs and protosses, but terrans are giving me really hard time. Last season I had both PvZ and PvP >70% winrate while vs T my winrate was slightly less than 50%... :/
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
May 24 2017 06:28 GMT
#59
On April 06 2017 01:39 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2017 09:44 darktreb wrote:
On April 02 2017 09:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On February 12 2017 12:42 sicklucker wrote:
pvt is the easiast mu no wonder it was best for alot of foriegnners. it was my best and i didnt even play protoss really. as in easiest to master not the easiest matchup

Easiest to master? What? It's basically impossible to master any match up. You can get really really good at it (which no foreigner has ever done by the way...compared to top korean pros) Put any P player against Flash and look how "easy it is to master".


If you define "master" as "dominate Flash" than of course no matchup can be mastered.

It was a hyperbolic statement, but contains some truth. PvT is the easiest matchup, up to a pretty high level of skill. I'd guess up to iCCup B level, maybe even more. That's pretty damn high.

Once you get past a certain point, the matchup gets pretty even. But being B level iCCup makes you a top 1000 player outside of Korea (might also need to exclude China). So I think by some reasonable choice of standard, you could call that "mastery".

I win a lot of green ranked zergs and protosses, but terrans are giving me really hard time. Last season I had both PvZ and PvP >70% winrate while vs T my winrate was slightly less than 50%... :/


same for me, red and yellow ranks terrans are easy to beat as protoss, B/B+ level terrans are a pain in the ass to kill, most of them are super defensive or super aggro, theres no easy way to beat them other than straight up macro game and even then i find it really hard to win vs good terran players.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
May 24 2017 08:25 GMT
#60
On April 01 2017 01:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Testie is a complete dumbass with dumb opinions and unmatched stubbornness

that said I love him dearly. Despite all his foibles, he was a great friend to me for many years


What if you're wrong about him and just need to get woke like he is?
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
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