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Cool video!
About spamming in the beginning: isn't it also true that you can obtain marginal benefit by "juggling" the first workers around so that they travel a bit shorter? It has always puzzled me how many good players spam their workers like crazy, yet can't be bothered to actually put those actions to use.
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Canada11607 Posts
In the situation with the hydras that you presented, would the fast thing to do would be to double click one? Or is this more for when you have more than a hotkey group and the remnant will jam the selected together?
I don't know about juggling, but I try and send workers to open patches when I'm spamming at the beginning.
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On February 07 2014 04:15 Falling wrote:
In the situation with the hydras that you presented, would the fast thing to do would be to double click one? Or is this more for when you have more than a hotkey group and the remnant will jam the selected together?
I don't know about juggling, but I try and send workers to open patches when I'm spamming at the beginning.
come on man double clicking is like 2006, ctrl click is where its at, i cant double click already moving zergling for shit so i got used to ctrl click for ease 
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On February 07 2014 02:37 fencer wrote:
Cool video!
About spamming in the beginning: isn't it also true that you can obtain marginal benefit by "juggling" the first workers around so that they travel a bit shorter? It has always puzzled me how many good players spam their workers like crazy, yet can't be bothered to actually put those actions to use.
Yeah you can, and I do that sometimes. I'll cover it in a later video but I'm not that great at it so I'll have to practice it some more  I'm starting with the more basic stuff though.
On February 07 2014 04:15 Falling wrote:
In the situation with the hydras that you presented, would the fast thing to do would be to double click one? Or is this more for when you have more than a hotkey group and the remnant will jam the selected together?
I don't know about juggling, but I try and send workers to open patches when I'm spamming at the beginning.
Ctrl-Click would be the true fastest method, but it was more to demonstrate if you wanted to select specific hydralisks. If there had been 30 hydras on the screen and you only wanted that 6, Ctrl-Click wouldn't work.
Doubleclick's too slow.
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Canada11607 Posts
I did not know about control click except when selecting wire-frame within control groups, so you see I have learned something already. Even if I was stuck in 2006 
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
This is pretty cool for us mechanics nerds, shall have a re-watch later as I'm kind of zoning out here.
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this is really helpful for new players... i wish we had a series like this back in 2003 T_T
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Oh wow you can ctrl click instead of doubleclicking, my mind is blown. This is just like when I was a newbie and found out you can shift select.
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In addition to ctrl+click, you can also alt+click a unit to select that unit's most recently selected group. For example, if that unit was most recently selected as part of ctrl group 1, alt+clicking that unit will select ctrl group 1. However, if for example you just select a few units randomly, EVEN IF THEY ARE PART OF A CTRL GROUP, and then select something else that doesn't include one of those units, the next time you alt+click one of those units you just randomly selected together, it will reselect your "random" selection group.
Unless, that is, you press 1 again, which re-selects the units in the ctrl group 1. This action will reset that alt-group for the units in ctrl group 1. For the units that are not in ctrl group 1, but still are part of the random alt-group, alt+clicking it will reselect the alt+group.
Hard to explain, but I don't feel like making a video. Load up some probes and just mess around with it. You'll see what I mean.
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On February 07 2014 17:16 hp.Shell wrote:
In addition to ctrl+click, you can also alt+click a unit to select that unit's most recently selected group. For example, if that unit was most recently selected as part of ctrl group 1, alt+clicking that unit will select ctrl group 1. However, if for example you just select a few units randomly, EVEN IF THEY ARE PART OF A CTRL GROUP, and then select something else that doesn't include one of those units, the next time you alt+click one of those units you just randomly selected together, it will reselect your "random" selection group.
Unless, that is, you press 1 again, which re-selects the units in the ctrl group 1. This action will reset that alt-group for the units in ctrl group 1. For the units that are not in ctrl group 1, but still are part of the random alt-group, alt+clicking it will reselect the alt+group.
Hard to explain, but I don't feel like making a video. Load up some probes and just mess around with it. You'll see what I mean.
I did not know that...that's madness.
IIRC you can also select a unit and press alt+# to add a unit to control group #.
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
Does the alt + click thing work in Sc2 because if so that is actually something of which IO was previously unaware!
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On February 07 2014 22:17 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 17:16 hp.Shell wrote:
In addition to ctrl+click, you can also alt+click a unit to select that unit's most recently selected group. For example, if that unit was most recently selected as part of ctrl group 1, alt+clicking that unit will select ctrl group 1. However, if for example you just select a few units randomly, EVEN IF THEY ARE PART OF A CTRL GROUP, and then select something else that doesn't include one of those units, the next time you alt+click one of those units you just randomly selected together, it will reselect your "random" selection group.
Unless, that is, you press 1 again, which re-selects the units in the ctrl group 1. This action will reset that alt-group for the units in ctrl group 1. For the units that are not in ctrl group 1, but still are part of the random alt-group, alt+clicking it will reselect the alt+group.
Hard to explain, but I don't feel like making a video. Load up some probes and just mess around with it. You'll see what I mean. I did not know that...that's madness. IIRC you can also select a unit and press alt+# to add a unit to control group #.
Mind=blown. Shift+# adds the selected unit(s) to that group and alt+# selects and centers your screen on that group. I've played thousands of BW games and never knew this before o_0
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The more of these kind of videos the better ! :D
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I've started using CTRL + C a lot
It centers your view on the currently selected unit or structure
It's very useful.
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Dominican Republic627 Posts
i have a question tho... i usually see stream on sniperslot and players like mong, hiya, ample, eCaruS,
they can have a lot of units in the rally point and they can CTRL #1 #2 #3 #4 without getting the same units on the same control? how do i can do that?
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On February 13 2014 09:58 SC2BF3Love wrote:
i have a question tho... i usually see stream on sniperslot and players like mong, hiya, ample, eCaruS,
they can have a lot of units in the rally point and they can CTRL #1 #2 #3 #4 without getting the same units on the same control? how do i can do that?
Assuming I understand your question, it's all manually selecting different units. You can do the same thing by just making sure you select the correct units with each box select (or manually shift select several units).
Last exam was today so I'll try get another episode done tonight or tomorrow.
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Just added the third video, covering ordinary hotkeys. Much of it may not be new to seasoned players but there's a few things which some relatively "experienced" players don't even know, so it's worth a look. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiVQBPOw5is
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