Am I stopping probe production at the right time?

On January 27 2005 21:51 pheered.user wrote:
oh and if you have no idea, dont fucking post here.

On January 28 2005 19:22 Empyrean wrote:
I generally don't stop until I need to free up supply. Then I load them in shuttles and see if I can get a few probe bombs. Doesn't work usually as the Terran have turrets and probes don't set off mines :O

If it's a pvz i usually just suicide them.

On January 30 2005 18:58 Geval wrote:
what Empyrean does is right, never stop pumping probes unless you are 200/200,
-before you have exp in main you had only ~25 which is not enough
but even 30-35 is not enought why?
-you would need probes for in exps
-your opponnents may kill some of your probes

if you want you can do an experiment to to time how much time it takes 30 probes to clean up an exp and how much time it takes for 50 probes.

btw. zergs middle and late game sux big time :O

On January 30 2005 17:55 Terross wrote:
im guessing your orange.. ?
Basically you stopped with 25 probes want 27(24 is 720 mines per minute 23 is 620.. + 3 for gas = 27) To do this click drag your army(should be about 9-11 drags/zeals/shutt at this time usually before reaver or when robo is just done i think) Then multiply by 2 since all toss units are 2 supply that you have then, and then subtract from total supply.
You were able to throw down expand earlier tahn red although he had better macro, he had bad unit count and you had position with your goons. I dont see point in rallying units to main pvp, but not big deal. You needed to set up your control 6(best place to do that goon contain imo) better. Goons were in straight line and doubled-tripled some areas, need that semi-circle for maximum effectiveness of course, also your temps were late and you had to retreat which cost you some units, which made your micro look a tad off since you had to maneuver goons awkwardly.
other stuff: building that pylon at his expand? just leave probe? Its effective because you can leave ur units in main vs drop until you see him come out of your base you move your units to expand. Also can tell his expo timing if you see probe come out with units. I dont see why you posted that rep seemed sort of dumb since you won game and it was so quick, probe count didnt even come into play that much imo because there was no attacking whatsoever except for that end of game.

edit: also about the expo related to probe production, if you are ahead you can afford to expand while keep up production, sometimes i cut probe production to expand earlier when both players are 3 gate gooning, i think its important to get that expand first( plus its easier to defend than attack pvp )If you are behind, then you most likely WILL need to cut probe production to keep up with opponent.

On January 30 2005 17:55 Terross wrote:
If you are behind, then you most likely WILL need to cut probe production to keep up with opponent.

On January 30 2005 19:03 pheered.user wrote:


you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about, you cannot mass produce probes in pvp.

Why?

Because you wont be able to expand vs someone who stopped probes at the right time.