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ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
September 20 2011 02:02 GMT
#721
On September 20 2011 09:43 Release wrote:
Which player achieved the highest recorded average APM in a recorded game? What game was it? How much apm?
I know there was one where July had a peak 818, only average 410 though. I heard and seen that Bisu and Hero are pretty fast, but have no specific info about them.


Well I haven't paid much attention to the apm counter in a couple years but the highest I remember was like 550? by casy I think. I vaguely remember another terran getting 500+ in a pro game. I think effort is another player who is very fast. (maybe not 500+ apm fast though)

For peak apm I remember a game of July again that was like 910 or so around the same time of the 818 one iirc.
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1482 Posts
September 20 2011 09:15 GMT
#722
On September 20 2011 11:02 ii.blitzkrieg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 09:43 Release wrote:
Which player achieved the highest recorded average APM in a recorded game? What game was it? How much apm?
I know there was one where July had a peak 818, only average 410 though. I heard and seen that Bisu and Hero are pretty fast, but have no specific info about them.


Well I haven't paid much attention to the apm counter in a couple years but the highest I remember was like 550? by casy I think. I vaguely remember another terran getting 500+ in a pro game. I think effort is another player who is very fast. (maybe not 500+ apm fast though)

For peak apm I remember a game of July again that was like 910 or so around the same time of the 818 one iirc.


If i remmber right, NADA played a game at some show like battke.net atack or something like that and had average over 800, but i cannot confirm that.

I do know my maximum average was 589 in 1 game.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
samiamquinn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia137 Posts
September 21 2011 14:14 GMT
#723
I'm sick of being cheesed in SC2.. Is low level broodwar really cheesy or do you get lots of macro games?
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1251 Posts
September 21 2011 14:20 GMT
#724
On September 21 2011 23:14 samiamquinn wrote:
I'm sick of being cheesed in SC2.. Is low level broodwar really cheesy or do you get lots of macro games?


A bit of both really, you will get a good number of both types if you play on say, iccup.
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
September 21 2011 18:05 GMT
#725
Where is a good place to find a coach for BW on TL?
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
September 22 2011 03:44 GMT
#726
On September 21 2011 23:14 samiamquinn wrote:
I'm sick of being cheesed in SC2.. Is low level broodwar really cheesy or do you get lots of macro games?

During stat resets, iccup gets really cheesy because people want to quickly get from D to their former rank.
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kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States623 Posts
September 22 2011 08:25 GMT
#727
Lately I've been doing some off racing as Z in ZvT and I have a question about spire placement during 3 hatch muta.

I'm not sure if my timings are off but usually when my lair finishes, my 3rd hatch has also just finished and the creep is starting to spread. My options are put the spire down closer to my main and risk a scan seeing it or waiting about 5 or so seconds for the creep to spread and putting the spire down out of potential view.

Is delaying the spire to place it out of view worth it to hide tech/force a wasted scan or is my 3rd hatchery timing just late?
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
September 23 2011 05:44 GMT
#728
On September 22 2011 17:25 kidcrash wrote:
Lately I've been doing some off racing as Z in ZvT and I have a question about spire placement during 3 hatch muta.

I'm not sure if my timings are off but usually when my lair finishes, my 3rd hatch has also just finished and the creep is starting to spread. My options are put the spire down closer to my main and risk a scan seeing it or waiting about 5 or so seconds for the creep to spread and putting the spire down out of potential view.

Is delaying the spire to place it out of view worth it to hide tech/force a wasted scan or is my 3rd hatchery timing just late?


Your third hatch is supposed to finish when lair started.
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States623 Posts
September 23 2011 06:25 GMT
#729
On September 23 2011 14:44 lyAsakura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 17:25 kidcrash wrote:
Lately I've been doing some off racing as Z in ZvT and I have a question about spire placement during 3 hatch muta.

I'm not sure if my timings are off but usually when my lair finishes, my 3rd hatch has also just finished and the creep is starting to spread. My options are put the spire down closer to my main and risk a scan seeing it or waiting about 5 or so seconds for the creep to spread and putting the spire down out of potential view.

Is delaying the spire to place it out of view worth it to hide tech/force a wasted scan or is my 3rd hatchery timing just late?


Your third hatch is supposed to finish when lair started.


LoL I'm a terrible Z. Thanks.
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
September 23 2011 14:42 GMT
#730
On September 21 2011 23:14 samiamquinn wrote:
I'm sick of being cheesed in SC2.. Is low level broodwar really cheesy or do you get lots of macro games?


There's plenty of cheese, but it can be scouted and prevented. Of course as was alluded to in a post above mine, at the beginning of the season you will be playing with a lot of people who were C or B rank the previous season so even if they fail their cheese they can still get back in the game and kick your ass through better mechanics if you are a much lower level player. But this is what I play for: to get better and face better opponents.

All in all, I've been playing mostly macro games that usually last anywhere form 10-20 minutes.
Hello World!
TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
September 23 2011 16:27 GMT
#731
About cheese...
All strategies are viable. Your opponent is taking extreme risks to put you out of the game quickly, with a very large chance of failure. Scout it, defend it, then win.
Playing against cheese improves your play and so does executing it yourself.
I really wish it wasn't the red headed step child of starcraft because cheese is extremely exciting to watch, play against or play with.
The mystery of life is not a problem to solve, but a reality to experience. **Hang in there STX fans!! Kal Hwaiting!**
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
September 23 2011 18:23 GMT
#732
I've been using the search function for about half an hour with all different kinds of ways to write winner (champion, finals, etc.) and msl/osl to find this thread. The thread had a list of BroodWar championships, who won how many gold, silver, and bronze medals, for the MSL, OSL, and maybe others as well. I can't remember what it was called or anything like that.

It's not this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169019
I think I remember it having a graphic of gold, silver, and bronze for the medals, but I could be mis-remembering. In any case, I would love some help in finding this thread.

Thank You!
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
September 23 2011 18:56 GMT
#733
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/MSL
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/OSL
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
September 24 2011 00:51 GMT
#734
On September 24 2011 03:56 Kyuukyuu wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/MSL
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/OSL


Thank you. For some reason I thought there was a thread with some analysis as well, but maybe I was just looking at Liquipedia. It didn't even occur to me to check there since I thought it was on TL proper.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
September 24 2011 04:06 GMT
#735
What is the correct transition out of a 10hatch zergling "all-in" if your opponent does 9pool lair, but sunkens up?
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jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
September 24 2011 06:01 GMT
#736
On September 24 2011 13:06 Release wrote:
What is the correct transition out of a 10hatch zergling "all-in" if your opponent does 9pool lair, but sunkens up?

how many sunkens? if only one then you can just bust his ass since you have 2x production of lings.
if more than 1-2 then just drone up a bit and get spores/lair your self. and if he goes greedy and doesnt produce many lings you can still bust his drones and carry your eco advantage to victory.
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Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
September 24 2011 14:55 GMT
#737
Is there a thread on TL where I can find and download UMS maps for BW, I'm looking for a Mine Defusing trainer.
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
djbhINDI
Profile Joined June 2011
United States372 Posts
September 26 2011 02:19 GMT
#738
On September 21 2011 23:14 samiamquinn wrote:
I'm sick of being cheesed in SC2.. Is low level broodwar really cheesy or do you get lots of macro games?

It's not as cheesy as Bronze in SC2, but 90% of zergs at D- 4pool
You can't emphasize enough how much you need to be a paradigm shifter. - Savior
ZeroTool
Profile Joined December 2010
3 Posts
September 26 2011 04:31 GMT
#739
Hi people. Please help me find a vod of an old match or just give some hints on players/map/tourney, I don't remember anything and so don't know what to search for.

The only things I remember: it's a TvZ match (most probably well-known), T spawns at top, Z bottom right, Z starts a spire and then easily scoutable hydra den, SCV sees a hydra den and goes home, Z cancels hydra den and rapes T with mutas. Couldn't find it myself.
gn0m
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden302 Posts
September 26 2011 09:57 GMT
#740
When I click a gateway when macroing, I must release the mouse button before clicking Z/D etc. If I’m still pressing the mouse button, the other key input is neglected. Is it like this for everyone and if not, how can I fix it?
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